ACC instruction to tonigt’s refs:

They picked up a false start flag. Lol

Never seen that before. Fvck this conference. Fvck Shalala.

We need to join the SEC or go independent again. I hate this conference (w the exception to basketball).
 
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Did you see the chop block on Homers TD run...I thought for sure they were going to call it..watch it again..the ref is seen and he looks like "I wanna call that"

I saw one on the left side of the screen.
 
There was an obvious intentional grounding when we took away his WR screen and he rolled out and threw it into the ground 5 yes short of the line of scrimmage.
 
I'd love to see penalties against UM opponents when they play UM versus other games. It really feels like there are no penalties against our opponents when we play them.

Our DL definitely never gets held -- by anyone, ever.


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Amherst,
I know you'll appreciate this: There was a study done on NCAA football officiating a while back. The results showed that the ACC was an anomaly of all the other Power 5 conferences in that in the ACC, the refs tended to be more strict on the teams that were the highest ranked, which the study noted was financially detrimental to the conference. The study's conclusion was that the ACC showed strong favoritism to the original ACC schools and against the schools that joined in the years after the conference was formed. (FSU and forward).


I have no idea who did the study or how to find it beyond a generic web search. Hopefully someone here can reference it.

Here is what you are referring to (I have posted it in numerous CIS threads, especially when the usual "No there isn't ref bias" porster chimes in)

http://www.sloansportsconference.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/SSAC15-RP-Poster-Paper-Referee-Analytics.pdf

Highlights:

"Contrary to profit-maximizing expectations of bias, none of the biases evident in the conferences in our study promoted favored teams. The ACC, and to a lesser extent the former Big East, actually show evidence of the opposite bias: more favored teams are penalized to a greater degree . A three touchdown favorite could expect 6.45 and 5.68 marginal increase of penalty yards in the ACC and Big East, respectively, when they played in-conference games but no change in penalty yards when playing out-of-conference as a favorite. This discrepancy points to a bias against the top teams in the leagues. Such a finding would likely lead to more parity in those leagues, as the greater number of penalty yards could occasionally result in losses for the leagues’ stronger teams against their weaker teams. Interestingly, the Big Ten demonstrates equal treatment for teams competing in in-conference games, but Big Ten teams are penalized significantly less when they play out-of-conference games as favorites."


"As with the game-level effects, the ACC shows more evidence of bias in its team-level effects than the other conferences. The ACC results demonstrate bias by penalizing teams with high football prestige less than their low prestige counterparts – a curious finding given the bias against the stronger football programs of the day. One explanation for this would be ACC officials protecting traditionally strong football programs while penalizing the more recently successful more. Supporting this notion, there is evidence of ACC officiating favoritism towards teams that have been in the league longest (founded in 1953) and more frequently flagging teams that are newer to the conference: Georgia Tech (1978), Florida State (1991), University of Miami (2004), Virginia Tech (2004), and Boston College (2005)."

"Our findings support the inference that referees from the ACC in particular officiate in-conference games differently than referees in other major conference alliances...Particularly given the betting line bias of the ACC in-conference, there is reason to believe that the ACC handicaps its stronger teams despite the financial incentives to do the opposite. Why does the ACC engage in this behavior and have these biases among officials? One possible explanation is the reputation of the ACC as a basketball conference with its four founding member North Carolina institutions (Duke, UNC, Wake Forest, and NC State) yielding the most political influence; internal ACC power may be threatened by non-founding schools with strong football that drive much of its revenue. The demise of the Big East, a league better known for their powerful basketball programs more so than their football programs, serves as a cautionary tale."
 
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I'd love to see penalties against UM opponents when they play UM versus other games. It really feels like there are no penalties against our opponents when we play them.

I believe Syracuse came in to the game as one of the most penalized teams in the conference. Against us only 3. The officiating we are forced to endure is brutal.
 
I'd love to see penalties against UM opponents when they play UM versus other games. It really feels like there are no penalties against our opponents when we play them.

I believe Syracuse came in to the game as one of the most penalized teams in the conference. Against us only 3. The officiating we are forced to endure is brutal.

And somehow no one holds our DL, yet their shirts are always ripped and distorted.
 
I'd love to see penalties against UM opponents when they play UM versus other games. It really feels like there are no penalties against our opponents when we play them.

I believe Syracuse came in to the game as one of the most penalized teams in the conference. Against us only 3. The officiating we are forced to endure is brutal.

And somehow no one holds our DL, yet their shirts are always ripped and distorted.

I've long since given up on the idea of getting fair treatment in the trenches. There have been soooo many games over the years where our dlinemen are blatantly held and no penalty is called. If we actually get a call every now and then I consider it a win.
 
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I'd love to see penalties against UM opponents when they play UM versus other games. It really feels like there are no penalties against our opponents when we play them.
GT and Syracuse combined for 4 penalties against us. How is that even possible?

It's not. It's statistically impossible.

And how about the early TD that was called incomplete because the DB swatted the ball out after the receiver had clearly held it long enough? The ref treated it like the WR went to the ground and imposed a "complete the catch" rule or something.
 
Swafford dies, the non-Tobacco Road schools stage a coup, an outsider is hired (like the $EC did with Slive) for commissioner, and the ACC offices are pulled out out of NC...Then you may see a change!
 
Definitely was not PI. The other two complaints are valid though.

DB was not playing the ball and ran into the receiver. never even looked back I believe (I'd have to watch again to confirm).

Sure looked like textbook PI to me.

Agree to disagree. I just went back and rematched the play. If they hadn't picked up the flag, I wouldn't have been surprised but I don't think it was PI. DB definitely turned his head, and while there was some contact, it was both guys arm tussling and Richards clearly slipped.
 
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