I agree and disagree. ISU is a tough place, but Ames is twice the size of Pullman, WA. It's about 30-40 min to Des Moines which has 300,000 people. There isnt sh#t to do in Pullman and it's about 1.5 hrs to Spokane (also a city with nothing to do but has 200k). Iowa State isn't broke and the conference they play in is much better then either the Pac 12 or ACC. I don't think it gets worse than Pullman. If you are asking who has done more with less, Mike Leach takes a dump on Campbell. Leach, even in his unsuccessful years, was still sending players to the NFL. Campbell has had 2 in 4 years (a 3rd and 4th rounder in 2019). I wouldnt want Leach as Miami HC either, but he out coaches Campbell by a large margin.