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Believe this was mentioned earlier in the thread.

Arm strength =/= arm talent.

Kosi has a strong arm but nothing about his footwork, throwing mechanics, pocket presence, etc. shows me he is a natural passer like the other two.
 
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Tetragrammaton Cane said:
Vern’s “dumbass” argument is no less than the argument that this Miami team can NOT beat Clemson. If history is the guide (i.e. Miami losing to lesser teams when Miami has lesser coaching) then the historical fact is that Miami also wins big games when Miami has great coaching. You seem to be wait and see - and that’s alright; I just think Miami has the right coaches, right now.

You can join the bandwagon later.
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blackvern said:
Holy ****..

The ACC has sucked for the last 15 years

We have had mediocre QB's the last 15 years

We have won 10 games once in the last 15 years in this supposedly horrible conference

Now you say we easily win 10 games with another mediocre/below average QB because the ACC sucks this year even tho it always has?

Do we not see a trend here??

Whats the difference? Please elaborate?

Only way we win 10 games with another mediocre to below average QB is if our defense scores 8 touchdowns again and forces another 33 turnovers
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You answered your own question, big guy. With mediocre and bad QB play, you’re right. We don’t and won't win. I clearly said good QB play will allow us to win 10+. Good being a better cut than what we’ve had. I’m clearly stating that with good QB play (i.e. better than mediocre/below average, which are your words) we shouldn’t struggle to win 10 games. If you disagree that 1. Good QB play is better than mediocre/below average play 2. That good QB play will lead to us winning 10+ games then you’re a dumbass for not accepting 1 and we disagree on 2. You inserted a totally different argument into mine to argue with yourself. This isn’t play time with the porsters. Try to keep up with the arguments presented or stfu and keep it moving to Warchant.
 
So Virginia, GT, UNC and the rest of the clowns stop us from 10 wins? On
blackvern said:
Holy ****..

The ACC has sucked for the last 15 years

We have had mediocre QB's the last 15 years

We have won 10 games once in the last 15 years in this supposedly horrible conference

Now you say we easily win 10 games with another mediocre/below average QB because the ACC sucks this year even tho it always has?

Do we not see a trend here??

Whats the difference? Please elaborate?

Only way we win 10 games with another mediocre to below average QB is if our defense scores 8 touchdowns again and forces another 33 turnovers
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Name a year in that time span Miami’s had two competent coordinators.
 
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blackvern said:
Clemson won With Deshaun Watson and Sunshine but lost with Kelly Bryant... Hmmm Just a coincidence I guess:rolleyes:
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Bama won with Jake Coker and got to the title game with Jalen Hurt. But let's give credit to Sunshine because the NFL dline Clemson had didn't mean nothing or a running back that was in the heisman talk was piggybacking off QB play. Wait I forgot about the oline that had gave Sunshine a clean pocket to stand and throw. I also forgot about play calling that kept Bama off balance every title game they had against Clemson. I guess having a complete team is a coincidence.
 
jmccomber5 said:
You answered your own question, big guy. With mediocre and bad QB play, you’re right. We don’t and won't win. I clearly said good QB play will allow us to win 10+. Good being a better cut than what we’ve had. I’m clearly stating that with good QB play (i.e. better than mediocre/below average, which are your words) we shouldn’t struggle to win 10 games. If you disagree that 1. Good QB play is better than mediocre/below average play 2. That good QB play will lead to us winning 10+ games then you’re a dumbass for not accepting 1 and we disagree on 2. You inserted a totally different argument into mine to argue with yourself. This isn’t play time with the porsters. Try to keep up with the arguments presented or stfu and keep it moving to Warchant.
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LOL u can't be serious.. I am obviously stating that Tate and Nkosi are mediocre QB's at best. **** Jarren might be too, but he has the best chance to be better then mediocre. How you failed to understand that from my posts befuddles my mind.
 
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