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8-Team (or more) Playoff

MIATL said:
And expanded playoff, with a single game elimination scenario, diminish the likelihood of the “best” team winning.

Are folks looking to crown the best team, or are folks just looking for more entertainment?
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Well if you are looking for the best team then why even have playoff. If a team cant win 3 games then they are not the best. THAT IS WHAT A PLAYOFF IS
 
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CaneSwag1995 said:
Pretty much. Expanding to 8 teams would set up a scenario where conference champions receive automatic bids, regardless of their record.

I don’t want the possibility of 3, 4, and even 5 loss teams in the playoffs.

The only way I would remotely consider it is if every conference abolished divisions — aka the BIG 12 model.
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I dont think it should be conference champions. Like this year IF Pitt had won doesnt mean they get into the playoffs
 
MIATL said:
And expanded playoff, with a single game elimination scenario, diminish the likelihood of the “best” team winning.

Are folks looking to crown the best team, or are folks just looking for more entertainment?
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I'm looking for a champion.
The champion is the team that wins.
 
cmike73 said:
Well if you are looking for the best team then why even have playoff. If a team cant win 3 games then they are not the best. THAT IS WHAT A PLAYOFF IS
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You have the playoff because you might have multiple undefeated teams. So, giving them the chance to play each other makes sense.

But there’s no reason to expand for 2-loss teams to make it. And any more expansion makes that a real possibility.
 
MIATL said:
You get a champion with the current system.

You got a champion under the BCS model, too.
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I was responding to the "best team" point.
A champion is not necessarily the best team.
I'm good with that.
 
NJshoreCane said:
I was responding to the "best team" point.
A champion is not necessarily the best team.
I'm good with that.
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Under the current system, you get a champion. And with it only being 4 teams, the odds are higher that the winning team will be the best team.

Best of all worlds.

How does expanding the playoff make a champion more legitimate?
 
MIATL said:
Under the current system, you get a champion. And with it only being 4 teams, the odds are higher that the winning team will be the best team.

Best of all worlds.

How does expanding the playoff make a champion more legitimate?
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120 different teams play 120 different schedules.
Right now, we think we know who the best teams are.
How do we even know who the 4 best teams are?

What year was it when OSU and Michigan were 1-2 and played "the game of the century"? Early 2000's?
There was a debate as to whether they should play again for the title.

There are many examples where the pollsters, or committee, was just wrong.

There will be years where we don't have an Alabama and Clemson out there...
where you have 5 or 6 one-lose teams.
Then What?

I don't like 8 teams.
I do like 6.
You win your conference, you're in.
 
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cmike73 said:
I dont think it should be conference champions. Like this year IF Pitt had won doesnt mean they get into the playoffs
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And I agree, but multiple conference commissioners have gone on record saying they would only support expansion if all power 5 conferences champions received an automatic bid.

The only reason expansion would occur in the first place is because the PAC 12 and BIG 10 are getting sick of not having their teams in it every year. They won’t support a change unless it addresses their concerns.
 
The whole notion is extremely straightforward to me. There are WAY too many teams in D1 that will never sniff a title. Wake Forest. Northwestern. Eastern Michigan, Tulane, et al.

Conferences need to be re-aligned completely. There's a Northeast, Southeast, Midwest and West. Or something like that. 64 teams total. Four conferences of 16, two divisions of 8. Effectively you get an 8-team playoff with the division champs fighting for conference title. The four conference champions enter a four-team playoff for the national title.

The sport would be SO MUCH MORE FUN if every game actually mattered and Florida wasn't playing cupcakes like Georgia Southern in games they'll never lose.
 
MIATL said:
You have the playoff because you might have multiple undefeated teams. So, giving them the chance to play each other makes sense.

But there’s no reason to expand for 2-loss teams to make it. And any more expansion makes that a real possibility.
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So what do you do when the P5 champions all have 0 or 1 loss
 
cmike73 said:
So what do you do when the P5 champions all have 0 or 1 loss
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The same thing they do when a G5 team goes undefeated for 2 straight seasons.

Weight their schedules, and compare the quality of their loss.

Most folks in favor of playoff expansion are the same folks arguing UCF doesn’t deserve a shot because of their schedule.

If you can exclude a team who hasn’t lost a game in 2 full calendar years because of their schedule, you can make the same subjective decision for P5 champs.
 
Jaromir Jagr said:
If every conference champion makes the playoffs, and the article goes out of its way to point out that the lesser teams have very little shot to win the playoffs, then why not leave it with the four teams that will be in the final four anyway.
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They don't have win.... just take out a couple of frauds from SEC or ND
 
Here’s the truth about the playoff, IMO.

The discussion will always be about the top 1 or 2 teams in each P5 conference, some quality G5 team, and a 0 or 1-loss Notre Dame.

That’s 12 squads, max. And could be as few as 6 or 7 in a given season. When you consider 6-12 squads are really in the discussion, NOT the 120+ schools in FBS, then 4 playoff spots is plenty.
 
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cmike73 said:
So what do you do when the P5 champions all have 0 or 1 loss
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You win your P5 conference , you are in... that way teams are not afraid to schedule good teams in regular season. The other 3 spots for the best remaining teams.. include strength of schedule for these

Get rid of countless crappy bowl ...
 
8 teams would let teams with 2-3 losses that lost by 30 to some scrub make it. Season won’t matter anymore.
 
MIATL said:
An expanded playoff, with a single game elimination scenario, diminishes the likelihood of the “best” team winning.

Are folks looking to crown the best team, or are folks just looking for more entertainment?
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I think a combination of:

1) money for schools/NCAA
2) more fans feel like "we are still in this thing, we have a chance"
3) people love chaos, especially when the favorite gets upset


The annointed model, to me, died in the market place when baseball abandoned 100 years of tradition and started their own playoffs. No one wants to go back.
 
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