8 Nebraska CFB Players File Lawsuit Against The Big10

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're speculating at best. There are medical factors that went into the Big 10 decision not to have football. Fifteen big 10 players who tested postive for Covid-19 also had myocarditis. It's a heart condition that includes blood clots which could cause cardiac arrest or heart failure if untreated. This has occurred in people who got sick and those who were asymptomatic.

Covid-19 Can Cause Heart Damage—Even If You Are Asymptomatic

While SARS-CoV-2 may cause cardiac symptoms such as chest pain or shortness of breath resulting in heart attacks and blood clots, there is also the possibility that the virus may cause significant heart damage and inflammation—but without producing any immediate or more noticeable cardiac symptoms.

www.forbes.com

There's supposed to be a report coming out on the percentage of athletes who develop myocarditis after contracting Covid-19. I won't speculate on when or what the report will reveal.

Coronavirus and heart inflammation in athletes: What we know about myocarditis

The latest coronavirus conundrum involves heart inflammation that, in rare cases, can kill young, strong athletes.

www.inquirer.com

Myocarditis Was A Game Changer for Big Ten, Pac-12. How Will it Impact SEC, ACC, Big 12?

When the Big Ten announced on Tuesday that it was shutting down its football teams for the 2020 season, it was widely reported that one reason was the

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Again, for the umpteenth time, myocarditis ia a known condition associated with many other viral infections. There is no peer reviewed evidence that it is more prevalent with Covid than it is with the flu, mono, cold viruses and myriad other viral infections that already exist.

Myocarditis is being pimped to scare people into not having a football season. The average medically illiterate person will throw their hands up in the air and say “oh my God heart disease from Covid - don’t play football”

Cameron Wolfe, MD, Duke infectious disease specialist, I don’t believe would risk his medical reputation if he didn’t think whatever minuscule risk there is couldn’t be mitigated. Your argument should be with him.

But nice try, Little10.

 

[GojiraCane]

I think he is taking all this heat for the Presidents while they sit back and sip their tea with a pinkie up. He must have had his job guaranteed to be this kind of punching bag

 

[Number1CanesFan]

Again, for the umpteenth time, myocarditis ia a known condition associated with many other viral infections. There is no peer reviewed evidence that it is more prevalent with Covid than it is with the flu, mono, cold viruses and myriad other viral infections that already exist.

Myocarditis is being pimped to scare people into not having a football season. The average medically illiterate person will throw their hands up in the air and say “oh my God heart disease from Covid - don’t play football”

Cameron Wolfe, MD, Duke infectious disease specialist, I don’t believe would risk his medical reputation if he didn’t think whatever minuscule risk there is couldn’t be mitigated. Your argument should be with him.

But nice try, Little10.

Why do you keep trying to defend and redirect the goal posts? Yes, Myocarditis occurs from several viruses including Covid-19 for which there is no cure or vaccine yet. Thst wasn't the subject.

The subject was why did the Big 10 cancel football. There is a plethora of information out there that Myocarditis was a major factor in their decision. Whether you agree or disagree with them canceling is your opinion and everyone is entitled.

What shouldn't be in dispute is that is why they made their decision. SI and a bunch of newspapers have reported on it. I just paraphrased and linked the articles because too many people providing speculations and theories when it's already out there in black and white.

Whether you believe it or not is or think they got it wrong is irrelevant to the Big 10's decision. They made it based at least in part on the contaction of myocarditis provided by their medical professionals.

 

[Number1CanesFan]

I call b.s. on all the slanted information porsted.....

All the news arcticles clearly telling everyone why they made their decision, but you all just refuse to accept it.

You can disagree with their decision, but it was their decision.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Why do you keep trying to defend and redirect the goal posts? Yes, Myocarditis occurs from several viruses including Covid-19 for which there is no cure or vaccine yet. Thst wasn't the subject.

The subject was why did the Big 10 cancel football. There is a plethora of information out there that Myocarditis was a major factor in their decision. Whether you agree or disagree with them canceling is your opinion and everyone is entitled.

What shouldn't be in dispute is that is why they made their decision. SI and a bunch of newspapers have reported on it. I just paraphrased and linked the articles because too many people providing speculations and theories when it's already out there in black and white.

Whether you believe it or not is or think they got it wrong is irrelevant to the Big 10's decision. They made it based at least in part on the contaction of myocarditis provided by their medical professionals.

We don’t know if their decision really had anything to do with myocarditis, and thinking that it actually did, is also an opinion. I have a hard time believing that that is the real reason. I don’t know for sure what the rationale was, but it’s not based on anything proven.

We only know what they claim their rationale was.

Maybe they just don’t want to deal with Covid, maybe they have issues with the players unionizing or the fear of it, who knows? Or maybe it’s about optics.

With all the data currently available, it makes no sense to cancel season because of myocarditis.

So yes, I do question their rationale. And you have infectious disease experts saying that it’s a manageable risk, just like it is for other viruses, and that it’s not a reason to cancel the football season.

 

[Number1CanesFan]

We don’t know if their decision really had anything to do with myocarditis, and thinking that it actually did, is also an opinion. I have a hard time believing that that is the real reason. I don’t know for sure what the rationale was, but it’s not based on anything proven. Maybe they just don’t want to deal with Covid, maybe they have issues with the players unionizing or the fear of it, who knows? Or maybe it’s about optics.

With all the data currently available, it makes no sense to cancel season because of myocarditis.

So yes, I do question their rationale.

Do you read? There's umpteen arcticles telling us they did. Why is that hard for you to accept?

You can say you don't agree with their decision. You say the evidence doesn't justify their decision, but they clearly made their decision based heavily on the information provided to them on myocarditis and they felt it was the tipping point to cancelling the season.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Do you read? There's umpteen arcticles telling us they did. Why is that hard for you to accept?

You can say you don't agree with their decision. You say the evidence doesn't justify their decision, but they clearly made their decision based heavily on the information provided to them on myocarditis and they felt it was the tipping point to cancelling the season.

I don’t think you’re following me. Myocarditis is their fall guy. That’s what they’re saying. Just because that’s what they put out to the public does not mean that is the real reason

 

[Number1CanesFan]

I don’t think you’re following me. Myocarditis is their fall guy. That’s what they’re saying. Just because that’s what they put out to the public does not mean that is the real reason

So what if is is? That wasn't part of any debate. There was all this speculation as to why their season was canceled. There are articles stating that the Big 10 was factoring myocarditis well before their decision was announced. Again, it has been reported that it was a major reason for their cancellation.

I think the Big 10 did the athletes, their fans, and the public a disservice by not having the medical professionals speak publicly whom they relied on in their decision. But, rather they spoke to the media anonymously.

 

[NorthEastCane]

Never understood that argument. Hardly anybody on the east coast is tuning in to ESPN to watch Rutgers.

It's more about spreading the Big 10 network into cable providers within Rutgers local market. They'll watch OSU, PSU, Mich., etc. The Big 10 can them charge advertising rates for all of it's broadcasts based on that expanded market.

 

[The Franchise]

All the news arcticles clearly telling everyone why they made their decision, but you all just refuse to accept it.

You can disagree with their decision, but it was their decision.

And criminals tell the court and media they didn’t do every time. Do you believe them too because the media is reporting what they say?

 

[The Franchise]

It's more about spreading the Big 10 network into cable providers within Rutgers local market. They'll watch OSU, PSU, Mich., etc. The Big 10 can them charge advertising rates for all of it's broadcasts based on that expanded market.

If they’re watching the teams you mentioned, then why did they need to break Buttgers off a big check? They could have put the BigPussy Network in those markets without Buttgers and saved the giant check they’re cutting to that **** heap program every year.

 

[cltcane94]

This about sums it up.

 

[JD08]

They thought they'd look like leaders being the first to cancel. Then they felt the heat and needed cover. Myocarditis went from being a rare side effect of viral infections to a household word.

 

[423Hurricane]

They thought they'd look like leaders being the first to cancel. Then they felt the heat and needed cover. Myocarditis went from being a rare side effect of viral infections to a household word.

They thought myocarditis fell into their laps to justify their decision to cancel sports. Then sane experts revealed that myocarditis is rarely an issue and their new excuse was debunked and Warren is still walking around with his pants down to his knees.

It may be too late for them to willingly reverse course and play. I haven't heard whether or not the teams are still practicing. Stay tuned,

 

[Miami[]_[]Smoke]

Never understood that argument. Hardly anybody on the east coast is tuning in to ESPN to watch Rutgers.

Nothing to do with ESPN, that’s nationwide already. It has to do with the big 10 network, which now reaches to New York, Baltimore, and DC By adding those two schools

 

[Empirical Cane]

Media markets for Rutgers. And an easy win.

Does anyone watch Rutgers football? I get the market they are in, but if TVs are on other channels....

 

[Canes1968]

They cancelled Fall football out of being worried about lawsuits from players unionizing, only to still get sued by players for cancelling the Fall season lol...

Kevin Warren better get that resume ready cause he's gonna have to fall on the sword when this is all said & done. That man will have no choice but to "step down" because the B1G school Presidents will never admit that they all (except for Neb & Iowa) voted against playing this season.

I also can't wait to see how bad Winter/Spring B1G football looks like, literally every team in the conference plays in an outdoor stadium but they think it would be a good idea to play Football in the North Midwest B1G country in places like Michigan, Ohio, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa & Pennsylvania in January, February & March LOL.

And let's say their plan is to play in an indoor stadium, logistically how is it gonna work having 14 teams play in only 1 or 2 stadiums, because I sincerely doubt they'll be able to find enough indoor stadiums to accommodate each team individually. And unless all the home stadiums that they already play in have the ability to close their roof (which I don't believe they do), they're basically looking at playing nothing but Snowed out below -0 temperature games in the Winter/early Spring...

Good luck with that.

They are planning to spread the games across several indoor stadiums across the midwest. Minneapolis, Indianapolis, etc. A spring season won't happen though.

 

[Canes1968]

Interesting story making the rounds today via a report by Sports Illustrated. @Liberty City El and @The Franchise you pretty much nailed it.

"The Big 10 Expected The ACC To Cancel Football, Notre Dame Saved The Season"

According to a wild report from Sports Illustrated, the Big 10 expected the ACC to cancel football once the B10 pulled the plug. Once that happened, the Big 12 and SEC would have pretty much no choice but to do the same.
Unfortunately for the Big 10, Notre Dame had different plans, and convinced the ACC to continue playing, which allowed the SEC and Big 12 to give the B1G the middle finger.

An unnamed source told Sports Illustrated, “Notre Dame really wanted to play and was willing to enter into an agreement that could lead to something down the road … at the very least, more games every year against ACC teams. They’re adamance [sic] about playing was the ace-in-the-hole a group, led by Clemson, needed to really push for a season and turn the tide in favor of ignoring the Big Ten.”

"I mean, if Notre Dame, with their academic reputation and their national brand, was willing to go forward ... it sort of just sealed the ACC's fate."

To make matters even worse, the B10 leaders thought they’d be applauded for canceling football! A Michigan source told SI, “There was an arrogance that our presidents and institutions would come out on the high ground, believing they’d look like heroes for putting student-athletes above football.”

IDK how much of a factor Notre Dame was - it was certainly to their benefit to get the ACC to play....
Just to add to this, Blake James was on the Joe Show this morning. The entire segment was spent talking about the fact Julio Frenk has been a real guiding force in the ACC in terms of advice and planning going forward. Blake said that other University Presidents, ADs, coaches and even Commissioner Swofford have looked to Frenk's experience in the field of public health for guidance. He also cited the medical advisory committee for the ACC as being a huge part in the ACC decision making process.

ND had nothing to do with it. Fact. That's their arrogance talking.

 

[JD08]

Does anyone watch Rutgers football? I get the market they are in, but if TVs are on other channels....

I used to watch one game a year religiously for about 11 years until 2003.

 

[Canes1968]

This about sums it up.

Absolutely hilarious.