4th quarter game management

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Enjoy the ******* win

 

[Ironmanfootball]

Everyone just wants to remember the last 2 runs of 0 and 1 yard.

I only remember the times my wife said "not tonight, hun"

 

[Combo]

I’m not saying he hasn’t done a great job building the program up but the 4th quarter play calling and decision making has been pretty shaky. It’s not just Mario. It seems pretty prevalent in CFB. Kirby has some well documented blunders like the Justin fields fake punt. Even Saban ended his career on a bizarre qb draw from the 3 yard line straight at a team that had 3 DTs 2 of whom were 1st round picks and the other a 2nd.

Every coach does dumb things from time to time. No exceptions.

 

[bacane]

When we went up 21-7 out of the half on that long drive and then got them 3 and out, in their worst looking drive of them game by a mile, I thought we were about to put belt to *** and run away with it.

Charmar Brown slipping on 3rd and 1 and rolling up on Bell is where everything changed. Another example of where you’d like a better playcall in that situation. Some flavor. It was Mario and Dawson trying to assert dominance and nothing more. But that play killed it and threw our D back out there quick and they got gassed and ND got new life.

Same exact thing happened multiple times a year ago, I remember Louisville specifically, right after the half. Could have put it away and didn’t because we went into a shell of what we had been doing on offense to try to run for 3rd and short up the *** and failed.

Great success running behind monsters on right side of our OL. Notre Dame anticipated, stuffed it & Brown tried getting back to left when he lost footing. Credit to ND on the play.

 

[MiamisMoperiestMopes]

Everyone just wants to remember the last 2 runs of 0 and 1 yard.

It’s not just running for me. It’s what looks like the same runs that everyone in the stadium knew was coming.

 

[CaneinBroward]

When we went up 21-7 out of the half on that long drive and then got them 3 and out, in their worst looking drive of them game by a mile, I thought we were about to put belt to *** and run away with it.

Charmar Brown slipping on 3rd and 1 and rolling up on Bell is where everything changed. Another example of where you’d like a better playcall in that situation. Some flavor. It was Mario and Dawson trying to assert dominance and nothing more. But that play killed it and threw our D back out there quick and they got gassed and ND got new life.

Same exact thing happened multiple times a year ago, I remember Louisville specifically, right after the half. Could have put it away and didn’t because we went into a shell of what we had been doing on offense to try to run for 3rd and short up the *** and failed.

Look, the slip was frustrating, but are we really going to blame the coaching staff for a guy slipping on a WET field? How about the grounds crew for the field being slippery in that spot? Maybe the equipment manager for not having long enough cleats in the shoe? Maybe Brown for being clumsy? Maybe God for forsaking us? Or maybe, just maybe, **** just happens some times folks and it's how you respond.

The Canes were pushing ND around like its little brother on the playground at that point and if he doesn't slip, the drive goes on. I can understand the complaints about going too conservative in the next few drives after that, but running the ball up the middle on 3rd and 1 in that circumstance? Gotta be one of the highest rates of conversion in football and with all the mojo on the Canes' side at the time. Seemed to be a no-brainer to me. Unfortunately, there was a banana peel on the field.

 

[Angry Ibis]

We won the game , Next.

Dude this is fun to watch.

Big win. We went conservative and prevent and took the foot off the gas. But also we are now seeing Notre Dame get better and better and better as the story goes on… Notre Dame was easy for us, but is now the best secondary, LBs, DL since…

So not only do we get a **** ND W, we get an encore of CIS Gymnastics!

Let’s ******* Go!

 

[EudocimusAlbus]

Marty made that cut cuz his run lane had closed up. It happens. But agree that was a momentum swinger, as well as those ridiculous PI penalties

 

[JayCane20]

Look, the slip was frustrating, but are we really going to blame the coaching staff for a guy slipping on a WET field? How about the grounds crew for the field being slippery in that spot? Maybe the equipment manager for not having long enough cleats in the shoe? Maybe Brown for being clumsy? Maybe God for forsaking us? Or maybe, just maybe, **** just happens some times folks and it's how you respond.

The Canes were pushing ND around like its little brother on the playground at that point and if he doesn't slip, the drive goes on. I can understand the complaints about going too conservative in the next few drives after that, but running the ball up the middle on 3rd and 1 in that circumstance? Gotta be one of the highest rates of conversion in football and with all the mojo on the Canes' side at the time. Seemed to be a no-brainer to me. Unfortunately, there was a banana peel on the field.

Thought the run up the *** on 3rd and 1 was predictable. That’s all.

Would have been a great time for something different… up 14, not critical and nothing to lose but everything to gain.

You’re right though, Brown showed he was getting 1 yard no matter what anywhere else

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

When we went up 21-7 out of the half on that long drive and then got them 3 and out, in their worst looking drive of them game by a mile, I thought we were about to put belt to *** and run away with it.

Charmar Brown slipping on 3rd and 1 and rolling up on Bell is where everything changed. Another example of where you’d like a better playcall in that situation. Some flavor. It was Mario and Dawson trying to assert dominance and nothing more. But that play killed it and threw our D back out there quick and they got gassed and ND got new life.

Same exact thing happened multiple times a year ago, I remember Louisville specifically, right after the half. Could have put it away and didn’t because we went into a shell of what we had been doing on offense to try to run for 3rd and short up the *** and failed.

The play call wasn’t the problem on that 3rd and 1 at all, it’s a first down if brown simply attacks where the play was designed to go instead of cutting back smh, prolly should’ve had fletch toting the rock on that play

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

The play call wasn’t the problem on that 3rd and 1 at all, it’s a first down if brown simply attacks where the play was designed to go instead of cutting back smh

Dude this is fun to watch.

Big win. We went conservative and prevent and took the foot off the gas. But also we are now seeing Notre Dame get better and better and better as the story goes on… Notre Dame was easy for us, but is now the best secondary, LBs, DL since…

So not only do we get a **** ND W, we get an encore of CIS Gymnastics!

Let’s ******* Go!

What point are you making here? That ND wasn’t that good? half this board swore Jeremiah Love would run for 200 yards on our “weak” DTs ... in reality this was 2 really good teams going at it n we came out on top, on to Bethune

 

[JHallCanes]

Beck was solid, I would have put the game in his hands up 21-7 and said "finish them," but that's just not how this staff operates.

They have one way they want to do things and they don't deviate.

A flea flicker, a middle screen, or an end around would have kept ND honest.

A bootleg to Lofton with Daniels or Toney on a deep route behind it would have forced them to stop or slow crashing the run.

If playing for a FG, snapping the ball with less than 5 sec instead of 15 would eliminate the full minute.

There’s a LOT left on the field which makes things easier on us, every game.

I like Dawson a lot but was very disappointed during that stretch. He’s been aggressive and I really thought he would go for the jugular but he did not

 

[nycane]

We won the game , Next.

With one of the most blatant efforts I have ever seen from refs to change the game. They played with 14 men in the field all game

 

[HurricaneKush]

It was dumb and we were lucky to escape with a win. We were 14 pts better and it came down to a fat kickers leg from 48. I think playing results is unhelpful when evaluating outcomes.

This is a guy that’s proven to not have a great killer instinct for closing out games and it’s fair to question his decision making. It makes the game very unfun to watch. But still have to acknowledge a huge W for the program. Some things are working even if not everything

 

[Empirical Cane]

Beck was solid, I would have put the game in his hands up 21-7 and said "finish them," but that's just not how this staff operates.

They have one way they want to do things and they don't deviate.

A flea flicker, a middle screen, or an end around would have kept ND honest.

A bootleg to Lofton with Daniels or Toney on a deep route behind it would have forced them to stop or slow crashing the run.

If playing for a FG, snapping the ball with less than 5 sec instead of 15 would eliminate the full minute.

There’s a LOT left on the field which makes things easier on us, every game.

That simply isn't Mario's philosophy and he's Head Corch.

 

[EmCane]

If Marty doesn’t slip and gets the first down, the final score looks much different. That stop breathed life into a reeling ND. Put us on the back of our heels for the next few possessions (thank god for the Bain pick!). No doubt it’s a double digit cruise control win if Marty gets the first there.

Marty didn’t need to slip. Play was to right side and it was blocked well enough to get the 1 yard we needed. For some reason Marty tried to cut left and lost his footing. Should have lowered shoulder and ran play were it was designed, it would have work for what we needed. Sometimes the **** ups are by the player not coach.

 

[Empirical Cane]

I love this team. They’re complete and can make a deep playoff run. Beck + the young WRs = dangerous once they click. And when Miami actually ran a balanced offense? We cooked one of the top 2–3 defenses in the country. Couple that with pass rushers who can close out a game and it is a team that can beat anybody.

But then… fourth quarter Mario showed up.

It was like Oregon–Auburn déjà vu: dominate for three quarters, then go full “turtle mode.” ND stacks the box, begging us to pass, and Mario says: “What if… hear me out… we run it straight into the teeth of their defense three times in a row?” Meanwhile Carson Beck — aka the best play-action QB in America — is just chilling like an Uber driver waiting for his next ride.

And THEN the grand finale: let’s play for a 47-yard field goal with a kicker whose résumé so far is ‘owns a pair of cleats.’ That’s not strategy. That’s not a 50/50 decision, that’s closer to playing roulette with half your chips on double zero.

Somebody online summed it up best:

“The before and after splits of when Miami went into turtle mode are hilarious. Mario Cristobal tried so hard to give that game away.”



Anyway it all worked out and you can have a season where a lot of low probability events go your way similar to when Auburn and Nick Marshall kept hitting those hail Mary’s but it’d be a lot easier if we just played with better odds.

we'll see.

Long season and Miami can still very much Miami.

 

[EmCane]

Great success running behind monsters on right side of our OL. Notre Dame anticipated, stuffed it & Brown tried getting back to left when he lost footing. Credit to ND on the play.

Disagree, it was not stuffed to the right, there was enough movement to get the 1 yard we needed. The cut and this slip was unnecessary

 

[Angry Ibis]

What point are you making here? That ND wasn’t that good? half this board swore Jeremiah Love would run for 200 yards on our “weak” DTs ... in reality this was 2 really good teams going at it n we came out on top, on to Bethune

ND is a very good team. We still coached not to lose at that point in the game and the board is now tripping over itself to justify it.

 

[marshallrc13]

When we went up 21-7 out of the half on that long drive and then got them 3 and out, in their worst looking drive of them game by a mile, I thought we were about to put belt to *** and run away with it.

Charmar Brown slipping on 3rd and 1 and rolling up on Bell is where everything changed. Another example of where you’d like a better playcall in that situation. Some flavor. It was Mario and Dawson trying to assert dominance and nothing more. But that play killed it and threw our D back out there quick and they got gassed and ND got new life.

Same exact thing happened multiple times a year ago, I remember Louisville specifically, right after the half. Could have put it away and didn’t because we went into a shell of what we had been doing on offense to try to run for 3rd and short up the *** and failed.

The Brown slip on 3rd down changed the momentum. We were about to slam the door shut.