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ilovelamp51 said:
You're very worked up over them snapping the ball with 12 secs left on the play clock. I just don't see why. He wasn't necessarily bleeding the clock nor was he trying to score. He was testing the waters. Play dictated Reid changing his mind, calling the TO.. then play dictated Shanahan calling the TO after the big conversion. I've seen this play-out like this countless times. Not going for points was the WRONG call in my opinion. That's worth complaining about.. not taking TO's. It literally happens all the time.
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Look, man, some people get it, and some people don't. You don't.

I understand "testing the waters". BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. If you want to "test the waters", you have to take a chance. When the opponent has THREE TIMEOUTS, you have two choices.

Choice A - you try to get at least one first down (and maybe a score) because you know the other team can get the ball with around 40 seconds left.

Choice B - you figure out a way to burn the clock via deception and/or success.

So, what do I mean by Choice B. Let's say you run on first down, and you run for 9 yards. KC might not burn a TO because they think that you will run on second down, and likely succeed, thus "what is the point". And, ****, as I pointed out, KC didn't even call a TO after SF only went for 3 yards on first down, because it looked like SF was coming to the line, and KC figured they should probably defend the next play (when, in actuality, KC probably should have called a TO at the 50 second mark).

This is the point. If Shanahan was pursuing Option B, he just runs out the clock. He has succeeded in convincing Reid not to call a TO after the unsuccessful first down run.

BUT...by sending in a second down play so quickly, Shanahan appears to be pursuing Option A, which is to "test the waters". Meaning, he needs AT LEAST one first down, either to burn more clock or to get into position to score.

So now let's explore Option A a bit further. Let's say you want to explore your options, but you don't get as much chunk yardage as you'd like. You still need ONE first down, and assuming you get KC to burn their timeouts, then on your second set of downs you can DEFINITELY run out the clock even if you can't get into position to score.

Instead, Shanahan FIRST opted for Option B, he let 40 seconds burn off before KC's punt, and then he let another 30 seconds burn on the first run.

And on SECOND DOWN (not third down), Shanahan flips to Option A. He sends in another play to "test the waters", and after THIS failure he would have gone back to Option B.

ONLY THEN, after second down, does Reid make any decision which "forces" Shanahan to do something.

Then SF hits a 20 yard pass, and Shanahan is back to Option A. In the meantime, he has burned almost 90 seconds.

And only after a mild offensive PI call does Shanahan finally (and belatedly) shift back to Option B.

Ridiculously stupid.
 
I was on fire last week. Too bad I'm usually not AND this was the first Super Bowl that I didn't make a single bet on. Ugh.

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TheOriginalCane said:
Just stop it.

You are delusional.

As I pointed out, if the "full intent" was to "burn out the clock", then you don't send in a running play and snap the ball at 26 seconds.

You keep lying about the KC timeout forcing the issue. You are wrong.

If SF snaps the ball on 2nd down AT THE TEN SECOND MARK and only runs for 2 yards, there is no way in **** that Andy Reid calls that first timeout.

Stop inventing a fake mythology about Andy Reid "forcing" a situation that would never have been a situation if Shanahan knew how to manage the clock.

If the "full intent" was to run out the clock, and KC is not calling a timeout after the unsuccessful first down run, then the half is over IF SHANAHAN KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING.

Shanahan panicked, as he has done before, and will likely do again. He changed his mind and blew the opportunity. Andy Reid goes into the locker room with all of his timeouts if Shanahan sticks to his "full intent".

Stupid Shanahan.
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Whatever. You can act like a scenario like this never happened b4..but it happens all the time. The end of the half isn’t the reason the 49ers lost the ball game. Anyone with eyes sees the situation at the end of the half changed 1 because KC showed that if they got the stop they were gonna stop the clock and make San Fran punt likely getting the ball in good territory. Therefore u call a high percentage play to get the first. Not only do u convert but u get the ball to mid field..now your in attack mode..and take a shot that u hit and get called back..I wouldn’t have been tryna be aggressive at my own 20 with 59 secs left and that KC offense on the other side when I’m getting the ball at the half anyways..it was a 10-10 game at that point and Jimmy already threw one of the worse picks you e seen.
 
**** man, a lot of words here. SF was up 10 in the fourth and ran the ball 4 times in the quarter. That’s DUMB.
 
305to954 said:
Whatever. You can act like a scenario like this never happened b4..but it happens all the time. The end of the half isn’t the reason the 49ers lost the ball game. Anyone with eyes sees the situation at the end of the half changed 1 because KC showed that if they got the stop they were gonna stop the clock and make San Fran punt likely getting the ball in good territory. Therefore u call a high percentage play to get the first. Not only do u convert but u get the ball to mid field..now your in attack mode..and take a shot that u hit and get called back..I wouldn’t have been tryna be aggressive at my own 20 with 59 secs left and that KC offense on the other side when I’m getting the ball at the half anyways..it was a 10-10 game at that point and Jimmy already threw one of the worse picks you e seen.
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This is, literally, what pvssies say.

If SF had 7 more points, and was up 27-10 halfway through the fourth, then they win the game. That third TD was a flukey add-on, it was not the true game-winner.

14 points by the Chiefs in the second half of the fourth quarter does not beat SF if Shanahan's killer instinct puts 7 more points on the board before half.

Pvssy, pvssy, pvssy.

Vag!na-pvssy.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
This is, literally, what pvssies say.

If SF had 7 more points, and was up 27-10 halfway through the fourth, then they win the game. That third TD was a flukey add-on, it was not the true game-winner.

14 points by the Chiefs in the second half of the fourth quarter does not beat SF if Shanahan's killer instinct puts 7 more points on the board before half.

Pvssy, pvssy, pvssy.

Vag!na-pvssy.
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soddyCane said:
Started playing not to lose instead of to win. Shannahan has to learn the killer instinct of when you have someone down, you step on their throat. Habitually he lets people back into games.
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Wrong, yes it's happened before. But that's wasn't the case last night
KC was led by Pat and that defense completely fed off of it.

Doesn't matter who your HC or QB was they were not going to Deny Reid, Pat or that KC defense.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Exactly.

Let's say that Shanahan calls the TO before the punt, he would have had about 1:30 left. Let's say he runs 2 unsuccessful plays, either a run (maybe call a TO) and an incomplete pass. After running a third down play and then a punt, he gives the ball back to KC with maybe a minute left, and likely deep in KC territory.

At that point, the Chiefs had only scored 10 points and had little offensive momentum.

WHAT WAS SHANAHAN SCARED OF?

49ers defense had been playing great, so he blows the last 90 seconds trying NOT to score because he is afraid of what KC would do with 60 seconds and 80 yards from the end zone?

THAT is the kind of decision-making that puts Shanahan into this situation and this discussion.
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See the fourth Quarter. Replay the Texans game..replay the Titans Game
 
305to954 said:
See the fourth Quarter. Replay the Texans game..replay the Titans Game
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And this is why you are making a pvssy argument.

That, somehow, in 90 seconds WHEN YOU HAVE POSSESSION OF THE FOOTBALL, and you get the ball for the first possession in the second half, you are afraid of the other team scoring.

Good lord, I have never heard such a pvssified football argument.

49ers held the Chiefs to 10 points in the first half, have the ball, get the ball first in the second half...and they are so scurred of what the Chiefs can do that they don't even try to score.

Are you seriously trying to argue that the Chiefs would have scored 40-some-odd unanswered points in those 90s seconds?

Or are you arguing that BECAUSE the Chiefs can score a lot, it's smart to sit on a 10-10 tie heading into the half?

******-pvssy.

That is why Shanahan will never win the Super Bowl (unless he changes his pvssy personality).
 
Tad Footeball said:
Nah, the State of Florida knows that I'd instantly infuse millions of dollars of bag money into our program and the UiF and FSU government mafia keep rigging all the drawings against me.
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Truth! Although, I would also start bag dropping at FAMU too, my alma mater. Want to get the program back to them Jake Gaither days.
 
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