40 Times

[CMay91]

Demar DOrsey ran a 4.25 forty

 

[plantcity3]

Demar DOrsey ran a 4.25 forty

That dude could fly. I don't know about 4.25 but I know he was in the 4.3 range.

 

[JHallCanes]

Grace is probably as straight line fast as any LB we've had. McGlover could fly too. Smith could burn obviously but I'd be lying if I said I had the picturesque memory needed to compare him to these guys.

We've had some fast LBs, but Grace is right up there. That kid can fly.

 

[HurricaneVision]

40 times are as inflated as fishing stories.

That's why they use lasers now. Once the laser system came out everyone's time grew.

Believe it or not, teams don't really pay much attention to the lasers, they use their own scouts' times. The lasers can be wildly inaccurate because of they way they start. I actually use video software to get a players true speed off their film and the NFL is really going towards that technology as well.

The 40 times for players are ridiculously inflated though, and a pro day is always faster because of fast tracks, wind conditions, and 39.75 yard setups etc. The Combine has all players running on the same track under the same conditions and you can really see a players speed and burst there.

 

[HurricaneVision]

Phil Dorsett ran a 12.04 100 meter in 2013.

Phillip Dorsett - FL Track and Field Profile

Dorsett then ran a 4.33 at the NFL combine.

Just sayin.....

How's that possible? He got faster after his injury

He learned to run track. The technique is so important to running a fast time on a track, which is yet another reason teams are going to more video technology to rate a players speed. You see him run the 40, but you use the video technology to evaluate when he's actually running, rather than the laser starting on a rolling start, or stopping once something large enough to trigger the laser mechanism hits.

 

[HurricaneVision]

13 players have run under a 4.3 at the Combine since 1999. Breshad Perriman did it at his Pro Day.

I've posted this before, but the average 40 time for a RB, WR, CB at the NFL Combine (meaning the best prospects for their class) is:

RB: 4.56 40, 7.04 3-cone, 34.5" vertical, 19.7 reps at 214 lbs.

WR: 4.51 40, 6.93 3-cone, 35.8" vertical, 14.9 reps at 202 lbs.

CB: 4.50 40, 6.90 3-cone, 36.0" vertical, 14.5 reps at 193 lbs.

All on the same surface in the same conditions. A high school kid running a legit 4.5 40 is ridiculously fast. Before a S & C program for a college, technique training, and natural maturation.

 

[TheMatador]

Can all you idiots stop throwing out numbers like 4.28

Plain and simple, there is most likely not a single player in high school football in the nation with speed like that.

To the ******** that say we need to get back to recruiting "4.3 speed linebackers"..... you're drunk, go home.

I'm already drunk, I'm already home. So, what do I do now?

 

[TheMatador]

Grace is probably as straight line fast as any LB we've had. McGlover could fly too. Smith could burn obviously but I'd be lying if I said I had the picturesque memory needed to compare him to these guys.

We've had some fast LBs, but Grace is right up there. That kid can fly.

You talking about Darrin Smith? He was supposed to be very fast, perhaps under 4.5, but I remember him getting burned by Jerry Rice. I would have thought that Smith was faster than Rice, just on reported forty times, but Rice was a receiver and Smith was a LB, so it's still probably not a fair comparision. UM Saint Butch Davis called that defense for the Cowboys that had a LB coverning Jerry Rice. I remember the play well. So the despised Dorito/AG are not the only ones who call defenses with strange mismatches. At least it was not that crippled DE from Georgia covering WRs.

 

[gabednconfused]

I beg to differ... in fact UM is making a late push for one of those local '4.28' capable players who is currently committed elsewhere.

 

[CANE]

I don't GAF what he runs. You can win with this.

[video=youtube;pRCSeoG2rUI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRCSeoG2rUI[/video]

 

[Al Foil]

Are all 600 of those kids football players?

Nonetheless, 600th out of the millions of kids that run track every year is special.

Williams has LEGIT speed.

Consistently finishes in the top 5 in 100m track races against the biggest HS in the state.

His best time is 10.83. That is BLAZING fast.

He is probably one of the 25 fastest HS football players in the country.



Latrell Williams - FL Track and Field Profile

Williams is fast, but that 100m time is not as special as you make it out to be. That time is the 600th fastest in the country.

https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Event.aspx?DivID=59640&Event=1&page=5

We will have to wait and see how he does this track season. I'm very excited with the pickup but with all the information available (including a 4.54 time from an espn combine) a sub 4.4 time is unrealistic.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Phil Dorsett ran a 12.04 100 meter in 2013.

Phillip Dorsett - FL Track and Field Profile

Dorsett then ran a 4.33 at the NFL combine.

Just sayin.....

that has to be a mistake there is no way in **** dorsett runs a 12 second 100 meter thats a time 7th and 8th grade students run

Come to think of it, Dorsett DID have a piece of pizza in one hand and a Pepsi in the other when he ran that.

 

[Gatorhater]

Can all you idiots stop throwing out numbers like 4.28

Plain and simple, there is most likely not a single player in high school football in the nation with speed like that.

To the ******** that say we need to get back to recruiting "4.3 speed linebackers"..... you're drunk, go home.

We never had 4.3 linebackers. Lol

Darin Smith and Jessie Armstead, before his knee injury, were the fastest I can remember. Not sure their recorded times but I thought Darin was down around that speed.

There is no 4.3 lb in the nfl right now, you fools who throw that number out, don't understand how fast that really is.

Why call people fools? At my best I was probably a 7.5 forty -- anyone faster, which was most everybody, looked really fast. Most of us have no point of reference. I was 6'1" in an Italian family. Thought I was a frigging giant.

 

[User-4525]

I know for a fact our high school RB ran a 4.2 and was a state champion in track at 10 something in 100 meters. Also, Jordan Scarlett just last year, ran a 4.3 laser at the opening.

Kids who ran under a sub 4.4 at the opening (2011 & 2012) didn't replicate the results at NFL combine

 

[Gatorhater]

Grace is probably as straight line fast as any LB we've had. McGlover could fly too. Smith could burn obviously but I'd be lying if I said I had the picturesque memory needed to compare him to these guys.

We've had some fast LBs, but Grace is right up there. That kid can fly.

You talking about Darrin Smith? He was supposed to be very fast, perhaps under 4.5, but I remember him getting burned by Jerry Rice. I would have thought that Smith was faster than Rice, just on reported forty times, but Rice was a receiver and Smith was a LB, so it's still probably not a fair comparision. UM Saint Butch Davis called that defense for the Cowboys that had a LB coverning Jerry Rice. I remember the play well. So the despised Dorito/AG are not the only ones who call defenses with strange mismatches. At least it was not that crippled DE from Georgia covering WRs.

In Butch's defense, Darrin did cover WRs frequently at THE U. Still, any LB on WR in NFL is a reach.