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JZCane0825 said:
That's still a fairly underwhelming choice
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In fairness, so was the Jai Lucas hire but there are some similarities.
Justin Gainey has a reputation of being a very good recruiter for Tennessee and he has no prior head coaching experience.
He does recruit the State of North Carolina well so that works in his favor.
Probably too good the more I think about it because I think he was the guy recruiting Cody Peck to Tennessee.
The good is that Tennessee is probably no longer a destination for Cody Peck.
The bad is that Justin Gainey is the head coach at NC State with $14M in NIL to fill out his roster.
No, his name doesn't win the press conference nationally but being a NC State grad keep the fanbase actively supporting the program.
 
Da_Lucky_One said:
In fairness, so was the Jai Lucas hire but there are some similarities.
Justin Gainey has a reputation of being a very good recruiter for Tennessee and he has no prior head coaching experience.
He does recruit the State of North Carolina well so that works in his favor.
Probably too good the more I think about it because I think he was the guy recruiting Cody Peck to Tennessee.
The good is that Tennessee is probably no longer a destination for Cody Peck.
The bad is that Justin Gainey is the head coach at NC State with $14M in NIL to fill out his roster.
No, his name doesn't win the press conference nationally but being a NC State grad keep the fanbase actively supporting the program.
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Maybe to the casual fans like you but the Gainey hire isn't in the same stratosphere as the Lucas hire as far as where the two coaches are in their trajectories.
 
JZCane0825 said:
Maybe to the casual fans like you but the Gainey hire isn't in the same stratosphere as the Lucas hire as far as where the two coaches are in their trajectories.
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Let's be very honest, no one and I mean no one thought Jai Lucas would win 20+ games in year 1 at Miami.
No one.
Jai Lucas was considered a great recruiter with no previous coaching experience who is defensive minded.
Justin Gainey is considered a good recruiter with no previous coaching experience who is defensive minded.
Do I expect NC State to win 20 games in year 1 under Justin Gainey, no, but they will be a lot better in the long term with him as the head coach.
 
Da_Lucky_One said:
Let's be very honest, no one and I mean no one thought Jai Lucas would win 20+ games in year 1 at Miami.
No one.
Jai Lucas was considered a great recruiter with no previous coaching experience who is defensive minded.
Justin Gainey is considered a good recruiter with no previous coaching experience who is defensive minded.
Do I expect NC State to win 20 games in year 1 under Justin Gainey, no, but they will be a lot better in the long term with him as the head coach.
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20 games isn’t the feat you think it is, especially with a weak non-conference schedule and a fairly favorable ACC slate.

Jai is elite but let’s not make like there wasnt a path to 20+ wins when the schedule came out couples with the roster he put together
 
The glaringly obvious difference between the two is that Gainey is returning to his alma mater.

I don’t want to see, and I don’t expect, him to be fired within five years; however, the easiest comps are Juwan Howard, Hubert Davis, and Kenny Payne.

Tony Skinn works as well although he isn’t a p4 coach. Syracuse’s recently fired coach fits. FSU’s current HC fits. Kevin Ollie applies.

****, this hire has a lot more in common with Jon Scheyer than it does with Jai Lucas.

Etc etc You get the idea
 
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JZCane0825 said:
20 games isn’t the feat you think it is, especially with a weak non-conference schedule and a fairly favorable ACC slate.

Jai is elite but let’s not make like there wasnt a path to 20+ wins when the schedule came out couples with the roster he put together
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In fairness, the last 2 years of Coach L was weak non-conference scheduling at its finest yet he only managed 15 and 7 wins.
To win 20+ games, it still requires a certain level of talent along with a certain level of coaching.
You can't have it both ways.
 
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hotshot said:
Daemon University? What's that, D-II? Best they could do?

Olean is a dauntingly bleak location to live in, and recruit to. (I went there for one semester so know the terrain a bit; the place hasn't changed.)
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Got one of their own. And basketball is still basketball. Woj himself is a magnet for recruiting talent. Melvin Council started on Kansas this past season.
 
cookies said:
Got one of their own. And basketball is still basketball. Woj himself is a magnet for recruiting talent. Melvin Council started on Kansas this past season.
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The Bonnies rear their head from time to time. When I was there as a Freshman (1962) they had regularly been a Top 10 school nationally for the previous 4-5 yrs.

This was before their greatest all-time player ever, Bob Lanier, attended. They made the Final Four in 1969-70, along with UCLA, New Mexico State, and Jacksonville. You can guess who won the title.
 
hotshot said:
The Bonnies rear their head from time to time. When I was there as a Freshman (1962) they had regularly been a Top 10 school nationally for the previous 4-5 yrs.

This was before their greatest all-time player ever, Bob Lanier, attended. They made the Final Four in 1969-70, along with UCLA, New Mexico State, and Jacksonville. You can guess who won the title.
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Oh man! You got deep roots.

And Lol yeah i can; hollyWoodending fasho.

Yeah they will never get back to consistently being great however they can def shake up the A-10 every few years; which is enough for them at this stage.

I can see the tournament expanding to 96 or even 138 teams in the near time future too.
 
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