That’s where it gets tough… if you go just on individuals it can have too many different reasons for not landing him and isn’t clear cut.
I’ve never understood the concept of a “miss”. Say player “X” announces a top 5 that includes Miami. Player “X” chooses 1 of his top 5 that isn’t Miami. Did the other 3 “miss” as well? Did the other 3 not go all out to “get” player “X”?
Okay but that doesn't answer the question of what makes them a whiff or not. Are we supposed to get them just because they come visit? Is it just because they are our top targets WE SHOULD get them? Again how do you do tate a miss by the staff opposed to someone who just chooses to go elsewhere? Or are both on the staff? Simply get two of them here or we're not doing our jobs.
Well reason I asked that is I'm pretty sure **** near all of the dudes we EVER take are widely recruited by most schools. We don't go after just anyone. Even the undervalued (by u guys)kids have alot of offers for the most part which pretty much shows what most of the country thinks about them. When y'all say yet some people say recruit rankings don't matter and then seem to scoff at it in my eyes what's being said is these dudes don't cut it and we need highly rated guys or it's simply a failure. Coaching is what dictates a failure or not. Talent most certainly helps. But it's on coaching to develop kids and get the most out of them. There's teams that are nothing but overachieving kids with exceptional coaching yearly who illustrate exactly that. **** we've lost to teams just like that year after year after year since 2005. The acc has been led by teams just like that for quite awhile. The va techs,the dukes, the Virginia's etc. Only teams who normally recruit at a high level is fspoo,Clemson,Carolina & us. & Fspoo is probably at the bottom of those 4. Look at the Illinois team nephew was just on. Being real for the last few seasons they would've mollywhopped us and they recruit like ****. Development is where we need to excel. We can't keep just saying oh another bad evals after kid after kid fails to live up to there hype here. That's what really dictates where recruits end up going. Money & coaching\development is what kids wanna see.
Development is the Key factor when all is said and done.
But what makes it a whiff if kids simply elected to go elsewhere? Is the bar simply set at we need to bring in difference makers PERIOD at these positions SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE POSITIONS OF NEED? This making it irrelevant WHO we get in particular? Simply bring in some difference makers & that's that? Because if that's the case then why is ray ray and Robbie not valid to where it's not a whiff? Both were all Americans. Both are without question difference makers. It's just simply not enough cause y'all think we should've prioritized hykeem and the other jit more? Like we didn't try everything we could? I'm just being difficult. I get what you're saying but I think it's just naive for people to always assume we should get such and such to sign here because we think they have legit interest and apparently we just deserve them...
I remember my first beer.
Never alluded otherwise (at least didn’t intend to). If a kid point blank doesn’t have interest, you turn the page.. especially if you have higher guys on board.
I’ve been saying this exact same thing for years and getting killed for it. Cis is really bizzaro world man lol
Folks having undying need to place blame somewhere when they have little knowledge of the backstory of the situation.
You gotta realize most guys on here are simply fans. Most are more than casual but their knowledge of the game is somewhat basic. People don't realize MOST kids that are recruited especially by bad staffs are mainly system fits. That's ALL Manny recruited. So what happens when a system is changing year after year. There's constant turnover in staff and players. You prioritize the portal? Well what happens is you neglect the development of the kids you recruit from high school to come here. Fact is it's a very different mental approach to be a high school child being recruited heavily and have multiple options opposed to a portal kid who's been exposed to what coaching is at this level. Exposed to what the majority of staffs do all around the nation. Plenty of staffs tear high school kids down to build them up in the image you want. It's a **** system but it's done by a wide percentage of them. Portal dudes come here for business and have promises made to them. It's stops the growth of numerous kids. Now the cycle starts again. That's why the people with a clue have been saying we want athletes, we want FOOTBALL players. I don't give a **** about 7 on 7. I want people that excell at football on my team and leaders. That's how you develope a standard. If we keep the same blueprint that's failed for **** near 20 years in place than why should we ever expect change. Continuity and comraderie that's what I'll take. To this day I still wake up and say let me check on some of my brothers. That's college that's NFL that's high school etc. When you develope that trust and those bonds in each other you excel. When coaches comprehend what it takes to really communicate with dudes they don't relate outside of football with well get ahead. I see plenty of that now. Team seems far closer together than I've seen in awhile. Leadership is starting to come into play and that's where we'll see accountability. Not just talk. I know. I went on a rant again. **** it.
It’s a bottom line business. There’s no asterisk for why when we’re lining up on game day.
It’s not officially summer until national journalist start with the excuses.
That’s funny because you’ve been ripping recruiting nerd rankings - to me it’s to cap in the event we miss on our top targets - but you were on this board this past week saying how Mario got a top 7 class and a top 6 class in the portal to make that point but slurp on.
Good point