2015 Class: 22 commits so far...

Not including whichever low-rated QB with no offers we're able to bring into this class over the next few weeks to fill Lawson's spot, we will have 2 QBs on scholarship heading into Golden's fifth year at Miami.

There's nothing more appalling in that previous sentence than Golden getting a completely undeserved fifth year here. But coming in a distant second is the fact that, as of right now, we'll have 2 QBs on scholarship in 2015. 2. F***ing 2.

That's laughably horrific roster mismanagement.

That is a great point. That is exactly how many he started with -- two. Going into his 5th year and he is at zero -- 2 qbs (grant one with promise) and 6-6 like his first year. We have gone nowhere(except Kaaya looks like a QB of old for THE U.) Golden's attrition rate in recruits and players looks like the 8th Air Force bombers over Germany before the P-51 -- unsustainable. At this point it doesn't matter if it is his fault or not, failure is failure.
 
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Not including whichever low-rated QB with no offers we're able to bring into this class over the next few weeks to fill Lawson's spot, we will have 2 QBs on scholarship heading into Golden's fifth year at Miami.

There's nothing more appalling in that previous sentence than Golden getting a completely undeserved fifth year here. But coming in a distant second is the fact that, as of right now, we'll have 2 QBs on scholarship in 2015. 2. F***ing 2.

That's laughably horrific roster mismanagement.

Feels like Shannon all over.

Jacory went down and we were down to Whipple and Morris.

It's disturbing how similar these two bozos are.

You got to hand it to Donna. She managed to hire the worse black coach in America AND the worse white coach in America. Must be some sort of backward left wing quota system. Doesn't she need to fire the white guy too -- at least for appearance sake if nothing else.
 
The handcuffs are off and Al is fighting with both hands free now. He's working his tail off. Going to watch film and get this fixed. It all starts with Al.

Cloud is Al, Al is cloud
 
19 in this class currently...and 11 de-committs.

De-commits:
WR: Trevill Holcy (de-committed 3/26/2014) Never offered
T: Kevin Feder (flipped to O$U 6/22/2014) Replaced w/ Tyree St. Louis (7/29/14)
RB: Jordan Cronkrite (de-committed 9/13/2014) Replaced w/ Mark Walton
TE: Bowman Archibald (flipped to Wake Forest 9/21/2014) Replaced w/ Jerome Washington
OG: Leeward Brown (flipped to West Virginia 10/28/2014) Replaced w/ Bar Milo (8/27/14)
OT: Geron Christian (de-committed on 11/26/2014) Replaced w/ Jahair Jones (12/15/14)

No real need to replace:
K: Drew Galitz (flipped to Baylor 8/26/2014) Goudis will be back for 2 more years and Badgley was a true freshmen who can still redshirt if he loses to Goudis next year.
WR: Emonee Spence (de-committed on 12/09/2014) We got 3 WR last year (Brady, Berrios, Langham and only lose Dorsett)

These are the 3 guys that we still need to replace:
DT: Quentez Johnson (de-committed 5/6/2014) Committed for less than a week during the summer
LB: Claude George (de-committed on 10/16/2014) De-committed after Barrow left.
QB: Dwayne Lawson (de-committed on 12/18/2014) Does not want to wait 2-3 years.

It's not all gloom and doom like everyone makes it out to be.
 
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Galitz was 2016 commit iirc along with Snelson and Gardner

We really needed Johnson, Lawson, and George

There will probably be 2-3 more decommits
 
De-commits:
WR: Trevill Holcy (de-committed 3/26/2014) Never offered
- OK

T: Kevin Feder (flipped to O$U 6/22/2014) Replaced w/ Tyree St. Louis (7/29/14)
- No, we didn't just all of a suddenly recruit St. Louis once Feder bailed on us.

RB: Jordan Cronkrite (de-committed 9/13/2014) Replaced w/ Mark Walton
- No, we offered him and he committed under the premise that we would only have 3 RB's. We ****ed it up. God forbid something happen with Dexter or Scarlett.

TE: Bowman Archibald (flipped to Wake Forest 9/21/2014) Replaced w/ Jerome Washington
- So no big deal that Wake Forest straight up stole one of our commits? Get ******* real.

OG: Leeward Brown (flipped to West Virginia 10/28/2014) Replaced w/ Bar Milo (8/27/14)
- No, Milo didn't replace him. Milo was supposed to be in addition to Brown, not to mention the fact that one is a guard and the other is a tackle. It's whatever because Brown sucks anyways. Should have never been offered.

OT: Geron Christian (de-committed on 11/26/2014) Replaced w/ Jahair Jones (12/15/14)
- No, If Jones is replacing anyone it's the soon to be departed Ereck Flowers. But like Brown, Christian sucks so it's whatever.

No real need to replace:
K: Drew Galitz (flipped to Baylor 8/26/2014) Goudis will be back for 2 more years and Badgley was a true freshmen who can still redshirt if he loses to Goudis next year.
- Lose best punt/kicker prospect in the nation...not a big deal. Again, get ******* real. If there's no need to replace him, why offer him in the first place? Don't you dare tell me because we didn't yet know about the awesomeness that is Michael Badgley.

WR: Emonee Spence (de-committed on 12/09/2014) We got 3 WR last year (Brady, Berrios, Langham and only lose Dorsett)
- Spence was the very first WR we took a commitment from. Only Charles Perry and Mark Walton committed earlier in this class. Brady and Langham have combined for as many catches as me, so just them being on scholarship has nothing to do with anything. But like Christian and Brown, he sucks so it's whatever.

These are the 3 guys that we still need to replace:
DT: Quentez Johnson (de-committed 5/6/2014) Committed for less than a week during the summer
-Biggest weakness on the team and it hasn't been addressed in 4 years. Terrible.

LB: Claude George (de-committed on 10/16/2014) De-committed after Barrow left.
- LB depth is dog**** for next season, and if what I heard is true about what really happened with Barrow, then I 100% put this on Golden.

QB: Dwayne Lawson (de-committed on 12/18/2014) Does not want to wait 2-3 years.
- Most important position in the entire game. You need at least 1 each year. When Golden first got here, he intimated that Bridgewater split because he wouldn't allow him to be the only QB in the class. 4 years later we return only 2 scholarship QB's, just like when he arrived. Complete failure by Al Golden even by his own standards.

It's not all gloom and doom like everyone makes it out to be.
- Yes it ******* is! This program is dog**** right now and this recruiting class reflects it.

My comments are in red.
 
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Agree with Dan's comments but to add Feder was basically replaced with Loftus & we flat out lied to Cronkrite.

St. Louis committed to Miami because UF wouldn't take him. Make all the jokes about UF that you want, but kids still would rather go there over our program right now due to their coordinators and position coaches over the years. Plus champ is a great recruiter. We will always be a better program than UF, but compare the two situations. ...After a 4-8 season in which it was believed muschamp would get fired, uf brought in a top 12 class. After a 6-6 season in which it is believed Golden will be gone next year, UM is going to bring in a class around 25-30. The UM staff did not know he was going to commit but would obviously take a stud like that any day. I don't expect him to stick if the suitors come on hard
 
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Anybody else remember when people were worried there would be too many kids in this class??? Hahahaha!!!!!
 
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Agree with Dan's comments but to add Feder was basically replaced with Loftus & we flat out lied to Cronkrite.

St. Louis committed to Miami because UF wouldn't take him. Make all the jokes about UF that you want, but kids still would rather go there over our program right now due to their coordinators and position coaches over the years. Plus champ is a great recruiter. We will always be a better program than UF, but compare the two situations. ...After a 4-8 season in which it was believed muschamp would get fired, uf brought in a top 12 class. After a 6-6 season in which it is believed Golden will be gone next year, UM is going to bring in a class around 25-30. The UM staff did not know he was going to commit but would obviously take a stud like that any day. I don't expect him to stick if the suitors come on hard

well um didnt expect walton to reclassify however cronkrite didnt believe the staff when they said he would get a fair shot. he felt they were going to lie to get him in then switch him to defense,
 
Agree with Dan's comments but to add Feder was basically replaced with Loftus & we flat out lied to Cronkrite.

St. Louis committed to Miami because UF wouldn't take him. Make all the jokes about UF that you want, but kids still would rather go there over our program right now due to their coordinators and position coaches over the years. Plus champ is a great recruiter. We will always be a better program than UF, but compare the two situations. ...After a 4-8 season in which it was believed muschamp would get fired, uf brought in a top 12 class. After a 6-6 season in which it is believed Golden will be gone next year, UM is going to bring in a class around 25-30. The UM staff did not know he was going to commit but would obviously take a stud like that any day. I don't expect him to stick if the suitors come on hard

well um didnt expect walton to reclassify however cronkrite didnt believe the staff when they said he would get a fair shot. he felt they were going to lie to get him in then switch him to defense,

Token cane said UM told cronkrite there would only be two running backs. There was 3 before walton reclassified
 
i heard from people that he just didnt believe he would get a fair shake at rb once the others were committed. it wasnt a fear of competition. he genuinely felt he would be switched to defense right away. who really knows. maybe u can hit him up on twitter and get an answer.
 
Good discussion. Let me clarify some of these guys the staff did like but ended up replacing with players that are just as good or better. See my comments in GREEN.
De-commits:
WR: Trevill Holcy (de-committed 3/26/2014) Never offered
- OK

T: Kevin Feder (flipped to O$U 6/22/2014) Replaced w/ Tyree St. Louis (7/29/14)
- No, we didn't just all of a suddenly recruit St. Louis once Feder bailed on us.
OG: Leeward Brown (flipped to West Virginia 10/28/2014) Replaced w/ Bar Milo (8/27/14)
- No, Milo didn't replace him. Milo was supposed to be in addition to Brown, not to mention the fact that one is a guard and the other is a tackle. It's whatever because Brown sucks anyways. Should have never been offered.
OT: Geron Christian (de-committed on 11/26/2014) Replaced w/ Jahair Jones (12/15/14)
- No, If Jones is replacing anyone it's the soon to be departed Ereck Flowers. But like Brown, Christian sucks so it's whatever.
We had Fedder, Brown, Mahoney, Gauthier, Brown committed by 6/24.
Then got Tyree St. Louis, Brendan Loftus after Fedder flipped.
Then we got Bar Milo, everyone knew we are not taking 7 OL this class.
Then Brown and Christian de-committed and we sign Jones and are left with 6 OL.

Who replaced who? I don't know, but I do know that we upgraded the position with the last 4 OL commits (St. Louis, Loftus, Milo, Jones) I would take these guys over Fedder, Brown and Christian. Looking over the list of the 9 OL that were once committed Fedder, Brown and Christian are in my bottom 6 and St. Louis Milo and Jones are in my top 3.


RB: Jordan Cronkrite (de-committed 9/13/2014) Replaced w/ Mark Walton
- No, we offered him and he committed under the premise that we would only have 3 RB's. We ****ed it up. God forbid something happen with Dexter or Scarlett.
Cronkrite was not offered until late in the game and he committed pretty fast. After some other guys committed after him he decided to leave. Was he lied to? Maybe or maybe the staff did not expect Walton to reclassify or Scarlett to commit, I don't know but fact of the matter is we got 3 guys who are potentially better than him.

TE: Bowman Archibald (flipped to Wake Forest 9/21/2014) Replaced w/ Jerome Washington
- So no big deal that Wake Forest straight up stole one of our commits? Get ******* real.
Sure we lost a recruit to Wake Forrest but I like Washington much better than Archibald. And I'm pretty sure he didn't leave because of he wanted to be on a better team or have better coaching staff.

No real need to replace:
K: Drew Galitz (flipped to Baylor 8/26/2014) Goudis will be back for 2 more years and Badgley was a true freshmen who can still redshirt if he loses to Goudis next year.
- Lose best punt/kicker prospect in the nation...not a big deal. Again, get ******* real. If there's no need to replace him, why offer him in the first place? Don't you dare tell me because we didn't yet know about the awesomeness that is Michael Badgley.
Badgley was the #1 kicker on 247 in 2014, so what? We can't afford to carry 2 to 3 kickers on scholarship for the next 2 years. I'm not saying the staff didn't want him when he de-committed, I'm just saying there is no need to replace him with another kicker.

WR: Emonee Spence (de-committed on 12/09/2014) We got 3 WR last year (Brady, Berrios, Langham and only lose Dorsett)
- Spence was the very first WR we took a commitment from. Only Charles Perry and Mark Walton committed earlier in this class. Brady and Langham have combined for as many catches as me, so just them being on scholarship has nothing to do with anything. But like Christian and Brown, he sucks so it's whatever.
Brady and Langham have combined for as many catches as Spence. Spence was offered prior to his senior year. Staff did not stay in touch after his senior season. Maybe they had better options? Maybe they didn't expect Chatman and 4 2016 WR to commit? I don't know. Despite how incompetent some of you think the staff is, I don't think they would not contact a recruit that they really wanted in this class.

These are the 3 guys that we still need to replace:
DT: Quentez Johnson (de-committed 5/6/2014) Committed for less than a week during the summer
-Biggest weakness on the team and it hasn't been addressed in 4 years. Terrible.

LB: Claude George (de-committed on 10/16/2014) De-committed after Barrow left.
- LB depth is dog**** for next season, and if what I heard is true about what really happened with Barrow, then I 100% put this on Golden.

QB: Dwayne Lawson (de-committed on 12/18/2014) Does not want to wait 2-3 years.
- Most important position in the entire game. You need at least 1 each year. When Golden first got here, he intimated that Bridgewater split because he wouldn't allow him to be the only QB in the class. 4 years later we return only 2 scholarship QB's, just like when he arrived. Complete failure by Al Golden even by his own standards.

I agree with you on these 3 positions and stated as much. We need to find good replacement for these guys.

It's not all gloom and doom like everyone makes it out to be.
- Yes it ******* is! This program is dog**** right now and this recruiting class reflects it.
I don't agree and don't think the 11 de-commitments reflect as much as everyone is making it out to be.

My comments are in red.
 
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Good discussion. Let me clarify some of these guys the staff did like but ended up replacing with players that are just as good or better. See my comments in GREEN.
De-commits:
WR: Trevill Holcy (de-committed 3/26/2014) Never offered
- OK

T: Kevin Feder (flipped to O$U 6/22/2014) Replaced w/ Tyree St. Louis (7/29/14)
- No, we didn't just all of a suddenly recruit St. Louis once Feder bailed on us.
OG: Leeward Brown (flipped to West Virginia 10/28/2014) Replaced w/ Bar Milo (8/27/14)
- No, Milo didn't replace him. Milo was supposed to be in addition to Brown, not to mention the fact that one is a guard and the other is a tackle. It's whatever because Brown sucks anyways. Should have never been offered.
OT: Geron Christian (de-committed on 11/26/2014) Replaced w/ Jahair Jones (12/15/14)
- No, If Jones is replacing anyone it's the soon to be departed Ereck Flowers. But like Brown, Christian sucks so it's whatever.
We had Fedder, Brown, Mahoney, Gauthier, Brown committed by 6/24.
Then got Tyree St. Louis, Brendan Loftus after Fedder flipped.
Then we got Bar Milo, everyone knew we are not taking 7 OL this class.
Then Brown and Christian de-committed and we sign Jones and are left with 6 OL.

Who replaced who? I don't know, but I do know that we upgraded the position with the last 4 OL commits (St. Louis, Loftus, Milo, Jones) I would take these guys over Fedder, Brown and Christian. Looking over the list of the 9 OL that were once committed Fedder, Brown and Christian are in my bottom 6 and St. Louis Milo and Jones are in my top 3.


RB: Jordan Cronkrite (de-committed 9/13/2014) Replaced w/ Mark Walton
- No, we offered him and he committed under the premise that we would only have 3 RB's. We ****ed it up. God forbid something happen with Dexter or Scarlett.
Cronkrite was not offered until late in the game and he committed pretty fast. After some other guys committed after him he decided to leave. Was he lied to? Maybe or maybe the staff did not expect Walton to reclassify or Scarlett to commit, I don't know but fact of the matter is we got 3 guys who are potentially better than him.

TE: Bowman Archibald (flipped to Wake Forest 9/21/2014) Replaced w/ Jerome Washington
- So no big deal that Wake Forest straight up stole one of our commits? Get ****ing real.
Sure we lost a recruit to Wake Forrest but I like Washington much better than Archibald. And I'm pretty sure he didn't leave because of he wanted to be on a better team or have better coaching staff.

No real need to replace:
K: Drew Galitz (flipped to Baylor 8/26/2014) Goudis will be back for 2 more years and Badgley was a true freshmen who can still redshirt if he loses to Goudis next year.
- Lose best punt/kicker prospect in the nation...not a big deal. Again, get ****ing real. If there's no need to replace him, why offer him in the first place? Don't you dare tell me because we didn't yet know about the awesomeness that is Michael Badgley.
Badgley was the #1 kicker on 247 in 2014, so what? We can't afford to carry 2 to 3 kickers on scholarship for the next 2 years. I'm not saying the staff didn't want him when he de-committed, I'm just saying there is no need to replace him with another kicker.

WR: Emonee Spence (de-committed on 12/09/2014) We got 3 WR last year (Brady, Berrios, Langham and only lose Dorsett)
- Spence was the very first WR we took a commitment from. Only Charles Perry and Mark Walton committed earlier in this class. Brady and Langham have combined for as many catches as me, so just them being on scholarship has nothing to do with anything. But like Christian and Brown, he sucks so it's whatever.
Brady and Langham have combined for as many catches as Spence. Spence was offered prior to his senior year. Staff did not stay in touch after his senior season. Maybe they had better options? Maybe they didn't expect Chatman and 4 2016 WR to commit? I don't know. Despite how incompetent some of you think the staff is, I don't think they would not contact a recruit that they really wanted in this class.

These are the 3 guys that we still need to replace:
DT: Quentez Johnson (de-committed 5/6/2014) Committed for less than a week during the summer
-Biggest weakness on the team and it hasn't been addressed in 4 years. Terrible.

LB: Claude George (de-committed on 10/16/2014) De-committed after Barrow left.
- LB depth is dog**** for next season, and if what I heard is true about what really happened with Barrow, then I 100% put this on Golden.

QB: Dwayne Lawson (de-committed on 12/18/2014) Does not want to wait 2-3 years.
- Most important position in the entire game. You need at least 1 each year. When Golden first got here, he intimated that Bridgewater split because he wouldn't allow him to be the only QB in the class. 4 years later we return only 2 scholarship QB's, just like when he arrived. Complete failure by Al Golden even by his own standards.

I agree with you on these 3 positions and stated as much. We need to find good replacement for these guys.

It's not all gloom and doom like everyone makes it out to be.
- Yes it ****ing is! This program is dog**** right now and this recruiting class reflects it.
I don't agree and don't think the 11 de-commitments reflect as much as everyone is making it out to be.

My comments are in red.

Honestly HW I love your detailed analysis but if you can't admit we have an arrow pointing firmly down right now, then you're just trying to sell us chicken **** by calling it chicken salad.
 
They started to address DT when they brought in 4 last year. Agree they need to bring in 2 more good DTs this year. If they don't it's a fail.
 
Hurricane Warrior, this quote stood out the most from your last post:

Despite how incompetent some of you think the staff is

This implies that you disagree with the overwhelming majority of Miami fans. Do you honestly believe Al Golden has earned a fifth year at Miami, despite having the same record (28-21) as Will Muschamp against far easier opposition (ACC schedules vs. SEC schedules), a worse resume than Randy Shannon at the conclusion of his fourth year, going winless vs. FSU (0-4), never winning the worst division among the Power 5, leading us to yet another embarrassing late-season collapse, and having the team completely fall apart under his watch in the last 10 quarters?

Forget the buyout and the BOT's disgraceful apathy towards UM football. Do you still want him to be our coach after all this?
 
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Good discussion. Let me clarify some of these guys the staff did like but ended up replacing with players that are just as good or better. See my comments in GREEN.
De-commits:
WR: Trevill Holcy (de-committed 3/26/2014) Never offered
- OK

T: Kevin Feder (flipped to O$U 6/22/2014) Replaced w/ Tyree St. Louis (7/29/14)
- No, we didn't just all of a suddenly recruit St. Louis once Feder bailed on us.
OG: Leeward Brown (flipped to West Virginia 10/28/2014) Replaced w/ Bar Milo (8/27/14)
- No, Milo didn't replace him. Milo was supposed to be in addition to Brown, not to mention the fact that one is a guard and the other is a tackle. It's whatever because Brown sucks anyways. Should have never been offered.
OT: Geron Christian (de-committed on 11/26/2014) Replaced w/ Jahair Jones (12/15/14)
- No, If Jones is replacing anyone it's the soon to be departed Ereck Flowers. But like Brown, Christian sucks so it's whatever.
We had Fedder, Brown, Mahoney, Gauthier, Brown committed by 6/24.
Then got Tyree St. Louis, Brendan Loftus after Fedder flipped.
Then we got Bar Milo, everyone knew we are not taking 7 OL this class.
Then Brown and Christian de-committed and we sign Jones and are left with 6 OL.

Who replaced who? I don't know, but I do know that we upgraded the position with the last 4 OL commits (St. Louis, Loftus, Milo, Jones) I would take these guys over Fedder, Brown and Christian. Looking over the list of the 9 OL that were once committed Fedder, Brown and Christian are in my bottom 6 and St. Louis Milo and Jones are in my top 3.


RB: Jordan Cronkrite (de-committed 9/13/2014) Replaced w/ Mark Walton
- No, we offered him and he committed under the premise that we would only have 3 RB's. We ****ed it up. God forbid something happen with Dexter or Scarlett.
Cronkrite was not offered until late in the game and he committed pretty fast. After some other guys committed after him he decided to leave. Was he lied to? Maybe or maybe the staff did not expect Walton to reclassify or Scarlett to commit, I don't know but fact of the matter is we got 3 guys who are potentially better than him.

TE: Bowman Archibald (flipped to Wake Forest 9/21/2014) Replaced w/ Jerome Washington
- So no big deal that Wake Forest straight up stole one of our commits? Get ****ing real.
Sure we lost a recruit to Wake Forrest but I like Washington much better than Archibald. And I'm pretty sure he didn't leave because of he wanted to be on a better team or have better coaching staff.

No real need to replace:
K: Drew Galitz (flipped to Baylor 8/26/2014) Goudis will be back for 2 more years and Badgley was a true freshmen who can still redshirt if he loses to Goudis next year.
- Lose best punt/kicker prospect in the nation...not a big deal. Again, get ****ing real. If there's no need to replace him, why offer him in the first place? Don't you dare tell me because we didn't yet know about the awesomeness that is Michael Badgley.
Badgley was the #1 kicker on 247 in 2014, so what? We can't afford to carry 2 to 3 kickers on scholarship for the next 2 years. I'm not saying the staff didn't want him when he de-committed, I'm just saying there is no need to replace him with another kicker.

WR: Emonee Spence (de-committed on 12/09/2014) We got 3 WR last year (Brady, Berrios, Langham and only lose Dorsett)
- Spence was the very first WR we took a commitment from. Only Charles Perry and Mark Walton committed earlier in this class. Brady and Langham have combined for as many catches as me, so just them being on scholarship has nothing to do with anything. But like Christian and Brown, he sucks so it's whatever.
Brady and Langham have combined for as many catches as Spence. Spence was offered prior to his senior year. Staff did not stay in touch after his senior season. Maybe they had better options? Maybe they didn't expect Chatman and 4 2016 WR to commit? I don't know. Despite how incompetent some of you think the staff is, I don't think they would not contact a recruit that they really wanted in this class.

These are the 3 guys that we still need to replace:
DT: Quentez Johnson (de-committed 5/6/2014) Committed for less than a week during the summer
-Biggest weakness on the team and it hasn't been addressed in 4 years. Terrible.

LB: Claude George (de-committed on 10/16/2014) De-committed after Barrow left.
- LB depth is dog**** for next season, and if what I heard is true about what really happened with Barrow, then I 100% put this on Golden.

QB: Dwayne Lawson (de-committed on 12/18/2014) Does not want to wait 2-3 years.
- Most important position in the entire game. You need at least 1 each year. When Golden first got here, he intimated that Bridgewater split because he wouldn't allow him to be the only QB in the class. 4 years later we return only 2 scholarship QB's, just like when he arrived. Complete failure by Al Golden even by his own standards.

I agree with you on these 3 positions and stated as much. We need to find good replacement for these guys.

It's not all gloom and doom like everyone makes it out to be.
- Yes it ****ing is! This program is dog**** right now and this recruiting class reflects it.
I don't agree and don't think the 11 de-commitments reflect as much as everyone is making it out to be.

My comments are in red.

Honestly HW I love your detailed analysis but if you can't admit we have an arrow pointing firmly down right now, then you're just trying to sell us chicken **** by calling it chicken salad.

Hey Cowboy, I don't disagree that the arrow is pointing down right now. There is a lot of negativity right now, mostly from our own fans and some trolls who just fan the flame. There are a lot of good reasons for it and I don't deny that. I'm a fan too and get frustrated watching the games just like everyone else does. We all want our team to win and we are not doing it.

I love this board but seriously some of the posts on this board are getting a little ridiculous. I'm not trying to defend Golden but I will defend my favorite team. Look at my record, a couple years ago I was defending the players when the board was making thread after thread trashing our players. Now it's Golden, nothing he says or does is good. Anyone that states anything positive about the team is a troll or "sucking Golden's ****". You should see some of the messages or negs that I get for being a Golden Slurper. Are we really hoping that we lose every good recruit, lose every game so that Golden can get fired and we start over from scratch?

I hope we get the best recruits and win as many games as possible. There isn't a lottery pick for losing in college football. If Golden is a good recruiter and bad coach, so be it, let him recruit and when he gets fired at least we have some talent for the next coach. Fact is, Golden will be back next year, we can choose to live in misery because of it or just accept the circumstance and hope for the best.

It's like a couple who wants to get a divorce but decides to stay together until their kids graduate. Is this an ideal marriage? No, but If the decision is made, then they should make the most of the situation they are in. Being a **** to their spouse is not going to help the relationship get better, they should just do their best to get along until the kids graduate. You never know what might happened during that time.
 
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Hurricane Warrior, this quote stood out the most from your last post:

Despite how incompetent some of you think the staff is

This implies that you disagree with the overwhelming majority of Miami fans. Do you honestly believe Al Golden has earned a fifth year at Miami, despite having the same record (28-21) as Will Muschamp against far easier opposition (ACC schedules vs. SEC schedules), a worse resume than Randy Shannon at the conclusion of his fourth year, going winless vs. FSU (0-4), never winning the worst division among the Power 5, leading us to yet another embarrassing late-season collapse, and having the team completely fall apart under his watch in the last 10 quarters?

Forget the buyout and the BOT's disgraceful apathy towards UM football. Do you still want him to be our coach after all this?

01Canes: I do not agree that Golden has earned his 5th year at Miami. Do I want him as a coach still? It's not my choice; but I will always support the Head Coach at the University of Miami and any player who suits up for us.
 
Hurricane Warrior, this quote stood out the most from your last post:

Despite how incompetent some of you think the staff is

This implies that you disagree with the overwhelming majority of Miami fans. Do you honestly believe Al Golden has earned a fifth year at Miami, despite having the same record (28-21) as Will Muschamp against far easier opposition (ACC schedules vs. SEC schedules), a worse resume than Randy Shannon at the conclusion of his fourth year, going winless vs. FSU (0-4), never winning the worst division among the Power 5, leading us to yet another embarrassing late-season collapse, and having the team completely fall apart under his watch in the last 10 quarters?

Forget the buyout and the BOT's disgraceful apathy towards UM football. Do you still want him to be our coach after all this?

01Canes: I do not agree that Golden has earned his 5th year at Miami. Do I want him as a coach still? It's not my choice; but I will always support the Head Coach at the University of Miami and any player who suits up for us.

Sorry, I just realized that I didn't answer your question. I'm really torn but my answer is "Yes" at least for 2015, especially at this point (less than 2 months before signing day). If they don't win at least 9 games next season, then I think it should be his last. Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I honestly see us winning 10 games next season if all goes well and Brad is healthy. How this team responds in the bowl game and off-season will be very telling of where this team will be next year.
 
Agree with Dan's comments but to add Feder was basically replaced with Loftus & we flat out lied to Cronkrite.

St. Louis committed to Miami because UF wouldn't take him. Make all the jokes about UF that you want, but kids still would rather go there over our program right now due to their coordinators and position coaches over the years. Plus champ is a great recruiter. We will always be a better program than UF, but compare the two situations. ...After a 4-8 season in which it was believed muschamp would get fired, uf brought in a top 12 class. After a 6-6 season in which it is believed Golden will be gone next year, UM is going to bring in a class around 25-30. The UM staff did not know he was going to commit but would obviously take a stud like that any day. I don't expect him to stick if the suitors come on hard

I don't care why we get the kids... just get them! I believe we got Ray Lewis because FSU didn't want him. If Scarlett comes here because FSU has better options, then so be it. If St. Louis comes because UF doesn't want him, great!
 
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