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theibisrules
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If he can't keep what he has in regards to recruiting THEN IT IS HIS FAULT
FG305
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Below average classes are winning the Coastal....
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You mean TEAMS with an abundance of Sr and RSJrs yes you re right , this years team was the best we've had since 2010 but with Freshman at key positions ... We are SOL
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Talk about hyperbole right here. There hasn't been one average class from Golden, the criticism is focused on the fact they just aren't good enough, nor elite as the slurpers try to make them out to be. Golden has brought in above average classes and his last one was the best one yet. The problem and why there is criticism that you mistaken as people saying the recruiting is average, is that we not only are losing way too many elite recruits in our backyard, but way too many are going to our main rival FSU.
There was a reason we freaked out over losing Cook, we knew Yearby was a very good back, but we also knew Cook was on a whole other level. There were 4 top notch RBs in the last two classes in S Fl, we got only one and the one with the lowest ceiling. There were 4 worthy DTs in SFLA in the last two classes, we got one of them. Kudos though for Al picking up some s slack with Jenkins. Still overall we are getting out recruited in our backyard and it is holding us back. In the meantime FSU is building an elite roster with the back bone being our recruiting ground. Sure we get decent guys, Berrios and Brady were solid pickups, but here comes FSU and grabs the top two guys at the position in Rudolph and Lane. Then it doesn't help when you have Urban, Saban and others picking of others such as Cooper, Bosa, Dixon, and Michel. Most of us think Al is a decent recruiter, but he isn't elite, and when you suck so much donkey **** as a strategist, it is that much more important to be elite in that department.
Look at Butch, he was a mess on game day, but he more than made up for it in evaluations and recruiting. Miami is a job where you can succeed even if your game day and preparations skills are sub par because of our recruiting base. Unfortunately Golden makes Coker look like Belichick on game day and his recruiting just isn't good enough to make up for it.
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Average for Miami standards, based on what we could/should have. An average recruiting class for Miami, FSU, UF, USC, Bama are top recruiting classes for most other schools. We have better players to recruit than almost every school, so we SHOULD be getting top 10 classes no matter what, and even that is low.
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I honestly just want Butch to be brought back as recruiting coordinator. Put him in charge of literally every recruiting decision. I think that would be perfect.
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That's because our coaches can't develop the players so they canned them before their senior seasons...
surely, you can't be this dumb.
And then someone goes and "likes" your horrible post on top of it. So now you've doubled the idiocy around here.
Golden's classes haven't been up to par based on the ELITE talent within 60 miles of campus.
That doesn't mean they aren't still way above the classes being put together by the following teams: G. Tech, V Tech, Duke, UVA, Maryland, UNC, Lville, KST, and whoever the **** else has beaten us the past few seasons outside of FSU.
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Average considering the players available to Miami, locally.
Above average when compared to schools we're losing football games to.
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So you need a team full of Srs and RSJrs to win the mighty Coastal?... lulz.
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Funny thing is, aside from QB (who's played better than our senior did last season) our team is full of seniors and juniors.
The entire left side of our OL are at least juniors. Walford a senior. Duke a junior. Dorsett, a senior. Waters, a junior.
On defense, Chick and Pierre seniors. Heurt and Wyche juniors. Kamalu, a junior? DP and Thurston seniors. Kirby, a junior I think?
Gunter a senior. Howard a junior. Crawford a junior. Bush and Dallas are juniors I believe.
The rest of our major contributors this season were sophomores. Like 4 freshmen logged major minutes all season (Berrios, Chad, Owens and Harris).
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You left out Yearby, Linder, Badgley, Darling, Jenkins who all got significant playing time.
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Obviously most of you don't comprehend too well. In your attempt to bash my post you gave the evidence needed to prove it. When has RSjr ever meant true Jr? Also you re calling the classes average by Miami's standard but expect above average results from those same average players. Regardless of what Miami should get we still dont have a roster with consistent playmakers.
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And yes the proof is in the pudding look at the rosters of the teams that have won the "mighty coastal" I m not making this up its facts you re the one living in lala land. We havent win it since we ve been in the ACC.
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I don't agree. It doesn't appear the NFL agrees with your sentiment either, as currently they have 10 Canes projected to be taken on draft day. We had more than enough talent to win a bad Coastal division this year. And there were enough experienced players to do so. It doesn't take 6 years to turn around a program at a place like UM. I'm neither a slurper or a mope. I feel no need to be vitriolic towards the staff. But I think when you hire a coach you give him 4 years unless he totally craps the bed. Golden has had his 4 years, and we are still losing 5 games a year. That should only be acceptable in Bizzaro World. It's time to move on. He'll leave talent in the cupboard for the next guy. A luxury he didn't really have. Now we need too find a guy who can actually coach, and the recruiting side of things will take care of itself. I don't think we can pry him loose, but I'd love Cutcliffe from Duke.
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Ok out of those 10 players how many have played at an elite level week end and week out ? You re saying draftable but how many will get drafted they said StepMo was draftable and a few of those lineman too. Help me out with this one how many ints. Have we had ran back for TDs how many fumbles for TDs how many WR outside of Dorset do we have making plays and not fumbling? Im not saying that Golden needs time .... I ve never been a fan what I m saying is our roster isnt as strong as some of you think and fans keep sayin we could have won the coastal ; well we didnt not just because of coaching either all the players are not as good as we think, not making this up we see it every saturday.
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If we have all these players you re making referrence to how do we allow a team such as virgina to put up 31points? Please help me with that one the coaches are not on the field yes we have a few good players and even less elite but 50% of our roster isnt filled with play makers if it was our loses wouldnt be double digit, if you can tell me different please do. Teams that have half a roster fill of play makers dont lose games by double digits
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From the sounds of your posts you don't seem to think the coaches are responsible for anything. Teams with talent lose games all the time. It's called "laying an egg", and it's the coaches job to keep that from happening. Above you claim we can't win when we have freshman playing critical positions, but FSU is doing exactly that right now. They have underclassmen everywhere, but they are winning. Fours years in Golden is failing. It's black and white. The odd loss can be chalked up to not having enough talent right now in Coral Gables, but they have enough talent that they shouldn't be losing 5 games a year. And it isn't even close.
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1.never said anything about freshmen
2. FSU has 1 freshman at a critical positon but still has a heisman winner at QB the most important position and a bery good player at WR, so you cant compare.
3. Never said the coaches arent responsible but if you ever played a sport you would understand that coaches only can do so much its about the players also.
Last IDGAF about Golden its not Bout him im not defending him what i m saying is we do not have alot of play makers yet will they develop of course but as much as you try to go against what I m say still no one has answered my questions, HOW MANY? Also you cant say they have freshman and then say underclassmen those are two different levels of maturity and play ability.
2. FSU has 1 freshman at a critical positon but still has a heisman winner at QB the most important position and a bery good player at WR, so you cant compare.
3. Never said the coaches arent responsible but if you ever played a sport you would understand that coaches only can do so much its about the players also.
Last IDGAF about Golden its not Bout him im not defending him what i m saying is we do not have alot of play makers yet will they develop of course but as much as you try to go against what I m say still no one has answered my questions, HOW MANY? Also you cant say they have freshman and then say underclassmen those are two different levels of maturity and play ability.
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