17 True Freshmen Have Playing Time; 2 games in...

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Maybe all these Freshmen playing should temper expectations? I suppose it helps recruiting as guys can look to early playing time.

Not looking to for the AG sucks or doesn't suck argument but if we are playing such young talent it's going to make it tougher the deeper we go into the season.

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True freshmen playing in bunches for Miami Hurricanes
Of the 24 true freshmen on the roster, 17 have already played for the Hurricanes and three have started.

BY MANNY NAVARRO, MNAVARRO@MIAMIHERALD.COM
September 11, 2014 | Updated 3 hours ago
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A pass intended for UM receiver Tyre Brady is broken up by FAMU’s Patrick Aiken in the second quarter at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens on Saturday, Sept. 6, 2014.
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The Miami Hurricanes have a true freshman starting at quarterback, a true freshman who is second on the team in receiving, and a true freshman who ranks second for them in rushing.

Safe to say, Al Golden hasn’t been afraid to play true freshmen this season.


Although there's no easy-to-find statistical database that tracks which schools have played the most true freshmen in 2014, the Hurricanes (1-1) have to be among the country's leaders entering Saturday’s game at Sun Life Stadium against Arkansas State (1-1).

Three true freshmen have already earned starts for UM (quarterback Brad Kaaya and receivers Braxton Berrios and Tyre Brady), and 17 of the 24 true freshmen who were part of the last signing class have seen action in the first two games. That's the most in Golden's four years at Miami.

“During the week [before last Saturday’s game against Florida A&M], the coaches were telling the freshmen to get ready,” Moten said. “During halftime, the coaches told all of us to get ready because that was going to be our time to shine and that it was time to flip the switch.”


In 2011, nine of UM’s 14 true freshmen played saw action and three were starters (Anthony Chickillo, Phillip Dorsett, Denzel Perryman).

In 2012, 15 of the 29 true freshmen played and eight started at least one game (Duke Johnson, Deon Bush, Ereck Flowers, Malcolm Lewis, Tracy Howard, Herb Waters, Rayshawn Jenkins, Earl Moore).

Last year, nine of the 14 true freshmen saw action and two were starters (Artie Burns and Stacy Coley).

Moten, a four-star defensive tackle from Fort Lauderdale St. Thomas Aquinas, said he got in on 12 snaps against FAMU. He and linebacker Darrion Owens were among the nine true freshmen that saw their first action of the season against the Rattlers.

Golden said this week quarterback Malik Rosier is the only player among the seven true freshmen who have yet to see the field this season the team is planning to redshirt. The others who haven’t played yet – defensive ends Demetrius Jackson and Mike Smith, receiver Darrell Langham, tight end David Njoku, linebacker Terry McCray and offensive lineman Joe Brown – are likely headed toward redshirts.

Heavy losses to attrition (19 recruits in Golden's first four signing classes either left the program or were booted off the team) have certainly played a role in helping more true freshmen get on the field faster at Miami.

It remains to be seen how many of the 17 true freshman to see action in 2014 will receive significant playing time moving forward, but players like Moten, fourth on the depth chart at defensive tackle, are soaking in the experience. He made the trip to Louisville and said he's learning on the go from the veterans ahead of him.

“Now that I’m at my goal weight I’m getting playing time,” said Moten, who has trimmed down eight pounds to 295. “I’m just learning right now. At first I didn't really know the scheme and everything, but now that I got it down I can make plays.”

It's the same for Owens, who is backing up Thurston Armbrister at strongside linebacker. He said he is pleased with the transition he's made from high school to college.

“It is easier than I expected,” Owens said. “I thought the playbook would have been way harder than high school. It is harder than high school, but it has been easier than I thought. My defense in high school prepared me pretty well for college. A lot of the terminology we used in high school, we use it here.”

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/09/11/4343039/true-freshmen-playing-in-bunches.html#storylink=cpy
 
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This is what happens when a third of your recruits from previous three years are no longer apart of the program. It's one of the reasons why we haven't gotten better as we are expecting 18 year old kids to compete with 22 year old men
 
I wonder if this is above avg compared to other top tier programs during the same period in time? If above the norm, just another indication that these guys are in over their head
 
How in the world do you play 17 true freshmen in year 4, let alone the first 2 games? I am dumbfounded by that stat.
 
This is this staff's 4th year. If we have to rely on true freshman at this point that's their ******* fault. It's not a god**** excuse to accept mediocre results.
 
2011: 9 of 14
2012: 15 of 29
2013: 9 of 14
2014: 17 of 24 (so far)

WHAT IN THE ******* ****.
 
Lots of attrition mostly all related to new realities UM faces in the wake of the NCAA sanctions.
Reaches on poor character kids were made to fill roster spots.
Low tolerance environment means no second chances.

Amazing how some you guys still don't get that we cannot jeopardize the program with another NCAA investigation due to perception of lack of institutional control. Where once we would be more tolerant we can't no more.
This in turn has affected the roster.
Hopefully Al is know able to recruit high character kids who hopefully don't ***** up.
 
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We are good at blowing RS on meaningless snaps. Unless guys get "hurt" soon, we are going to waste a bunch this year.

Kaaya
Yearby
Berrios
Darling
McDermott

Jenkins
Moten-maybe
Thomas
Harris-with AQM susp.
Owens

Are the only guys that should be playing meaningful minutes at this time.

Random thought after looking at that list. That is an impressive crop of true FR (said something good about Golden)

A future DL of:

Jackson/Harris
Moten
Jenkins
Thomas

Would be beastly (now I'm sad again)
 
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Attrition is most of the story but there may be a disconnect between some players and the coaches as their years go by forcing golden to play lots of freshman. Basically, by the time some of these kids are juniors or seniors they aren't developing as they should, hence golden has to rely on true freshman that still buy in to his message.

Then you lose 27 out of 71 kids to attrition, not because of the NCAA but because of poor evaluations and you have a team that has to constantly trot out true freshman.
 
This is this staff's 4th year. If we have to rely on true freshman at this point that's their ****ing fault. It's not a god**** excuse to accept mediocre results.

Yep.

You don't get to fail at recruiting for four years then claim that it's not your fault that you have a bunch of freshman.
 
Lots of attrition mostly all related to new realities UM faces in the wake of the NCAA sanctions.
Reaches on poor character kids were made to fill roster spots.
Low tolerance environment means no second chances.

Amazing how some you guys still don't get that we cannot jeopardize the program with another NCAA investigation due to perception of lack of institutional control. Where once we would be more tolerant we can't no more.
This in turn has affected the roster.
Hopefully Al is know able to recruit high character kids who hopefully don't ***** up.

I hope you realize that lack of institutional control has nothing to do with kids who get into fights or other mischief. It has to do with failing to have compliance programs in place that prevent NCAA rule violations. Not that you've ever said anything accurate or honest on this board. So your post, making excuses for Golden, is full of it. I'm not aware of any players in Golden's recruiting classes who had to leave because of NCAA trouble.
 
Come play at the U. We've ****ed up our previous classes so much you have better than a 50/50 chance to play right away!
 
Is what it is. There will probably be more attrition if/when staffs change. We got plenty to win with, we really ****** do. Time to see it.
 
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I've been saying it since spring camp.

These corches are destroying young men's careers with no regard to the futures of these kids. They think only of their own sorry hides.

I was dead serious when I said there should be criminal charges available to this type of fvckwardia corching.

Literally making paupers out of what were supposed to be future millionaires.

Corches need to be working as **** moppers at the local stop and tug.
 
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How in the world do you play 17 true freshmen in year 4, let alone the first 2 games? I am dumbfounded by that stat.

Not making excuses, because even with playing this many we still should be playing better on offense. How do you not have 20 attempts down field to those horses we have. Outside of Brad and maybe one LB, we are not relying on the freshmen like the past two years. Also, one of the guys was against FAMU which we expect to even play walk-ons. We still better win 10 games!!!

One other thing, I understand all the leaving stuff. I don't blame the staff for that, but we have our best talent in years, in this freshmen class.
 
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