11/12 Update

No reason to rip on Butch like this. Even if you don't want him you should still respect what he's done here and have nothing bad to say. I'd be just as happy with Herman or another actual football coach. (no wario, schiano, chud, shula). We need a real HC. Idc if they run a 3-4 & spread tempo. As long as we win thats all that matters.
 
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Thanks for the info Geo. ***** the naysayers. These types of posts are exactly why we are all members of these sites. Anyone that says otherwise is ignorant.
 
Will butch fire Swasey? Any coach who comes in needs to can him.


+1 Million. If the next coach keeps Swasey we'll continue to get our a$$ kicked at the line of scrimmage. That guy needs to go too.

Most of the players that leave for NFl come back out to work with Swasey. Golden came in with his own plan to make the players fat and slow. That's not on Swasey


Biggest myth in Miami history. Some of the skill players come back and work with Swasey. Name me a lineman that does. He is ok with Speed and Agility training. That's about it. Also South Beach and good weather play a part in those players coming back as well.

This is what made Miami. Golden tried to turn us into a big ten team, even tho we had some of the fastest players in college.


We need both speed and strength. Once Tommy Moffitt's influenced players left the program we started getting our a$$ pushed in. LSU beat down in the peach bowl.
 
Mario as "head coach in waiting" doesn't scare me. How many times has a "head coach in waiting" actually gotten the job?
 
Isn't Bud Foster supposed to be a "head coach in waiting"? He is not in the top 3 for that job.
 
Will butch fire Swasey? Any coach who comes in needs to can him.


+1 Million. If the next coach keeps Swasey we'll continue to get our a$$ kicked at the line of scrimmage. That guy needs to go too.

Didn't Butch promote Swasey to replace Moffit when he went to LSU? Why would he fire the guy he hired?

I'm sure if Butch stayed and realized how bad of a job he does then he would have fired him. Regardless of who they hire if Swasey stays nothing is going to change.
 
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Jimbo is the one and only time coach in waiting has worked that I can think of. So not a very good track record to say the least.
 
Y'all are gonna be really disappointed.

Just like Golden didn't get fired last year, Butch is not getting hired this year.

They are absolutely not hiring a coach who already has his exit strategy in place before he's coached a game, or especially, secured a staff.

This thread is pandering to the masses, IMO, and the OP has given enough caveats to wiggle out of this post when we hire someone other than Butch.

About the only thing that might be accurate is that Butch has been so aggressive in his pursuit, combined with fan support, that he's now a legit candidate to be a fall back option.

But this scenario is like recruiting. The coaches UM REALLY wants are still in season. So, they can't go after them, and those coaches can't be active in their pursuit of the job. But when they've played their last regular season game, their interest will increase. And from there, they'll decide who really has a legit interest, and who's using UM for leverage.

I'll state again ... If this university hires a coach who NO ONE ELSE wants, be it Butch, Chud, Schiano, or Cristobal, it will be the laziest and most uninspiring search ever ...

If Blake James hires Butch because Paul Dimare tells him to, then this athletics program is finished! What the **** does Paul Dimare know?

There is a reason why football owners, who sign the checks, hire front office people to make these calls.

SMH ...

Butch is not getting the job, IMO.

And if I'm wrong ... It's over for the program.

A place built on innovation and pushing the envelope would be hiring a 65 year old guy who doesn't innovate or push the envelope. And if the OP is accurate, he's already got an exit strategy, and thinks we should hire a guy to replace him who went 27-47 as an HC, and was 3-9 in the year he was fired.

I simply can't believe the people making this decision will be that lazy to turn the keys over to Butch and Mario, hoping 1 guy is the same as he was 20 years ago, but hoping the other guy is significantly better than he was 5 years ago ...

i dont disagree with some of your ideas. however, blake james is not a competent front office person to make the call. the system is broken and, to your point, may therefore make the wrong choice.
 
Will butch fire Swasey? Any coach who comes in needs to can him.


+1 Million. If the next coach keeps Swasey we'll continue to get our a$$ kicked at the line of scrimmage. That guy needs to go too.

Most of the players that leave for NFl come back out to work with Swasey. Golden came in with his own plan to make the players fat and slow. That's not on Swasey

unless you have direct personal knowledge of this assertion by the NFL players, i suggest it is nothing more than a myth. there are many, many reasons why these players may come back to work out at UM, and Swasey may not be one of them. they may come back because of the weather, the party environment and taxes!
 
Unless you're speaking to Epstein or maybe 2 other people, which you're not, you're left with 3 options:

1. You're being fed a ton of chit by people without sources,

2. You know nothing and are making it up sprinkled with other crap others are making up, or

3. Combination of 1 and 2

This is some hatin a$$ **** X 1000..I dont know if what Geo is saying is right or wrong but he shared what he was told by a source. Whats the harm in that? Isnt that what a message board is for? And Geo has earned the creditibility on this board to speak what he was told.

If you are saying only 3 people on earth know what is really going on then I question you because according to many people and the media.. Blake, PDimare, and SMiller are the 3 top dogs. So if Epstein is involved too...then somebody is REALLY lying or somebody got some explaining to do..
 
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Unless you're speaking to Epstein or maybe 2 other people, which you're not, you're left with 3 options:

1. You're being fed a ton of chit by people without sources,

2. You know nothing and are making it up sprinkled with other crap others are making up, or

3. Combination of 1 and 2

This is some hatin a$$ **** X 1000..I dont know if what Geo is saying is right or wrong but he shared what he was told by a source. Whats the harm in that? Isnt that what a message board is for? And Geo has earned the creditibility on this board to speak what he was told.

If you are saying only 3 people on earth know what is really going on then I question you because according to many people and the media.. Blake, PDimare, and SMiller are the 3 top dogs. So if Epstein is involved too...then somebody is REALLY lying or somebody got some explaining to do..

Exactly and he has no credibility so...TIFWIW

There is no harm in his crap AND I am only pointing out that this sounds like some bullchit. Is there harm in me pointing it out?

Oh, people in the media are also full of chit except for maybe one. Finally, here is who David Epstein is... Chair of the University's Athletics Advisory Committee. He will be in the know for this search and everything athletics.

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Geo doesn't need a public advocate, he can speak for himself.
 
Geo, you got any idea who butch would bring in on the defensive side of the ball?

No idea who he would bring as DC but if it were up to me.


Give me Gran as OC and Leavitt as DC and I promise we would be competing at the highest level again very soon.

Even just Gran would have me excited. Great coach.
[MENTION=6412]Geo[/MENTION] why do you like Gran so much ?
 
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