11-1...10-2 Crowd....

That’s exactly what I’m saying 20 years of this and the fact that it won’t go away in a few months is exactly why 10-2 is nearly impossible and the reason why it’s a lofty goal.

Had this same roster played to their recruiting rating and gone 9-3 last year then I would say a one game improvement is very doable.
We just agree to disagree on what is considered “lofty”……it’s all good.
 
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Butch had legitimate excuses....
Is Mario down 11 schollies this yr??...No
Is Mario down 8 schollies next yr??...No
Is Mario prohibited from a Bwl game this yr...??...No
Is Mario's UM FB team prohibited from being on TV??...No
Did Butch have a 8 million dollar contract, and another 6 million dollar staff??...No
Did Butch have an administration that backed him 100% with a Billionaire Booster??...No......Please stop the nonsense.
Since Butchs kids left after the 2004 season, this program "Coincidentally" has gone to sh*t....
You're missing the point. None of that mattered to anyone until years later. AT THE TIME, I repeat, AT THE TIME, people wanted Butch to be executed in front of Hecht. You people don't learn. Mario's tenure isn't defined by the first four games any more than Butch was defined by the first four years when people hated him
 
This time around I didn’t buy into the green tree hype. Done with that ****. I’m in the show me business now, so the emotional fall today wasn’t as far for me as past years.

Same with me. The prior years really took a beating on me. I've almost become immune to losing
 
Butch had legitimate excuses....
Is Mario down 11 schollies this yr??...No
Is Mario down 8 schollies next yr??...No
Is Mario prohibited from a Bwl game this yr...??...No
Is Mario's UM FB team prohibited from being on TV??...No
Did Butch have a 8 million dollar contract, and another 6 million dollar staff??...No
Did Butch have an administration that backed him 100% with a Billionaire Booster??...No......Please stop the nonsense.
Since Butchs kids left after the 2004 season, this program "Coincidentally" has gone to sh*t....

You're actually proving my point. All of that was true about Butch, but no one was saying it while he was losing.
 
Don't look at me. I was driving the Lane Train with only @Liberty City El to keep me company.

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Tell me who Lane would have brought over as DC because Steele and all of his celebrity defensive “advisors” have translated to manure.
 
Like i said early on. I like mario but it all depends on coordinators. He made terrible hires.

He better realize it fast.
 
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It will take longer than I expected but Mario will right the ship. When he does I don’t want the OP to squirm back in. Ridiculously insufferable blow hard
 
How's things at University of Excuses since his kids left???....

Terrible, WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT if you would read. While he was losing, our fan base hated him. But you're ready to forget all of that and judge Mario after four games.

How are you missing this?
 
Butch lost, fans hated him. Didn't realize he was a good coach until years later.
Mario loses, fans hate him.....do you see where this is going yet?
 
You're missing the point. None of that mattered to anyone until years later. AT THE TIME, I repeat, AT THE TIME, people wanted Butch to be executed in front of Hecht. You people don't learn. Mario's tenure isn't defined by the first four games any more than Butch was defined by the first four years when people hated him
In 1997, Butch played with 64 scholarship players, D2 level. His Only losing season.
By 2000, one of the greatest teams ever assembled.
He wasn't good, Butch was **** good.
 
In 1997, Butch played with 64 scholarship players, D2 level. His Only losing season.
By 2000, one of the greatest teams ever assembled.
He wasn't good, Butch was **** good.

We have the dumbest fan base on the planet.

WE KNOW THAT NOW. When he was losing, people hated him. Just focus on that sentence for a minute. With Mario, we are living in the present as though we were complaining in 1997. But now we know that the complaining in 1997 was stupid.

How is this escaping you people?
 
Agree,4 or 5 wins are looking really hard right now.We're down to 1 RB and Stevenson is out too.
They are “injured” cause they are soft and the writing is on the wall. Guess start from the ground up and get these weaklings out of the program
 
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In 1997 we hated our coach and wanted him fired. We were stupid.
In 2022 we hate our coach and think we made the wrong choice after four games.

But you people don't see what could be happening all over again.
 
Terrible, WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT if you would read. While he was losing, our fan base hated him. But you're ready to forget all of that and judge Mario after four games.

How are you missing this?
Mario has NO excuses for losing today...NONE....Mario has wayyyyy more to work with than what Butch had in 95. Stop it....Butch was a 1st yr HC in any capacity. Mario isn't.
 
Mario has NO excuses for losing today...NONE....Mario has wayyyyy more to work with than what Butch had in 95. Stop it....Butch was a 1st yr HC in any capacity. Mario isn't.
Then why wasn't anyone saying that about Butch in 1997? Why were we flying banners?
 
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