10th coaching assistant

[Genghis Cane]

I don't think hiring Patke would be smart. We need proven position coaches/recruiters at UM, not green coaches who lack a substantial resume.

 

[paksat]

dumb question..

who is patke?

 

[brock]

dumb question..

who is patke?

A coach not qualified for the job at Miami

 

[Bk1]

I'm a golden girl lol? The narrative that won't die. Never said one positive thing about him post 2013, lost all hope post Louisville and NEVER white knighted for him (like you're doing here) EVER. Why you keep bringing him up?

If you don't think Sr. Needs some real help on the offensive side of the ball you can't be helped. Keep your head burried firmly up your *** please.

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Richt isnt bringing in “help” on the offensive side of the ball. It’s not happening any time soon. You may as well call for Richt to be fired because he isn’t bringing in outside guys to run a different system or coach QBs in their own way. He pretty clearly wants guys who know and can implement his system.

I get that and I'm not calling for his firing. I understand the logic, I just don't agree with it. Richt has done a great job changing culture and getting the most out of this team. Doesn't mean his offensive liabilities are beyond reproach. I feel the offensive staff is beyond over matched, don't you agree (beyond the reality he isn't firing his son)? IMO he'll be forced to eventually anyway. What must be done eventually, must be done immediately.

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No, I don’t agree. We scored more points in 2016 than in any season since 2002. Only 4 UM teams since 2002 scored more points than the 2017 team, and two of those teams were only like two points better. He did that with Rosier at QB, virtually no RB depth, and a hobbled #1 WR. He did his best to mask the offensive deficiencies this year, but that fell apart late in the season. Most of my criticisms with Richt’s offense stem from his situational playcalling. I think he goes for it all on second down too often and that puts us in bad third down spots. I also think his 3rd and short and red zone playcalling could use some work, but I’m not that concerned about the offensive system as a whole.

Fair points but imo the reason his situational playcalling sucked is because his system needs revamping. His running scheme specifically is a hot mess. His zone blocking, big on big s hit needs to end. We are a spread team. Need to implement more spread power running ala Clemson/Auburn. Give ourselves the advantage in the running game which will open up easier throws in the passing game.

The rubber meets the road on offense NEXT year. There will be zero excuses for being dog s hit in the red zone and third down in year three. If there are, then it can be assumed its a schematic/coaching issue. The offense will be stacked with playmakers and he'll have his third qb to try it with.

While I agree that he isn't firing his son, I'll never be convinced he's not a wasted coaching spot. Sr. Has admitted on tape numerous times he's the qb coach/OC. Jr. Is redundant and unfireable.

You can post all the stats you want, we were underwhelming there when it counted and you know it. I like the engaged Richt as an offensive coordinator but imo he needs to be more involved in the total program. He can still be MORE involved on the offensive side but turn the day to day over to an innovative OC. Imo it will happen by necessity in the future.

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How are we a spread team? We dont need to be like Clemson or Auburn...both systems are cookie cutter offenses with no imagination outside of the corky trick plays Gus runs from time to time...we have the players at key positions to run a pro style offense.....or ANY RPO type offense for that matter....you dont take up spots on your team with fullbacks if your not trying to be a downhill running attack type

 

[Cane6]

I've posted about it before, but on the offensive side, we need someone with proven success and a impressive resume. The rest of our coaches on O, besides Dugans and arguably Searles, have below average resumes with no-playcalling experience.

Not sure why we wouldn't implement the same mentality that competition makes everyone better by bringing in a really good offensive mind with experience.

 

[88]

Can already see this is going to turn into a cat fight between the objective and the Richt-do-no-wrong brigade

 

[BigJoeGrizzly]

I read somewhere on here that it probably going to be John Lilly and I agree. Rick is almost loyal to a fault so either Lilly or Brian McClendon will be the names to get used to.

 

[hiphopanimal]

For every two good decisions Richt makes, he makes one ridiculously stupid one.

Even if it was a bad decision, we could move forward but the weight of the ridiculousness hinders us.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

Can already see this is going to turn into a cat fight between the objective and the Richt-do-no-wrong brigade

Oh, how cute. If you don’t think Richt needs to replace himself as an OC, then you think “Richt can do no wrong.” If you think Richt needs to give up the teigns to the offense, you’re “objective” and “fair and balanced.l

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

I'm a golden girl lol? The narrative that won't die. Never said one positive thing about him post 2013, lost all hope post Louisville and NEVER white knighted for him (like you're doing here) EVER. Why you keep bringing him up?

If you don't think Sr. Needs some real help on the offensive side of the ball you can't be helped. Keep your head burried firmly up your *** please.

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Richt isnt bringing in “help” on the offensive side of the ball. It’s not happening any time soon. You may as well call for Richt to be fired because he isn’t bringing in outside guys to run a different system or coach QBs in their own way. He pretty clearly wants guys who know and can implement his system.

I get that and I'm not calling for his firing. I understand the logic, I just don't agree with it. Richt has done a great job changing culture and getting the most out of this team. Doesn't mean his offensive liabilities are beyond reproach. I feel the offensive staff is beyond over matched, don't you agree (beyond the reality he isn't firing his son)? IMO he'll be forced to eventually anyway. What must be done eventually, must be done immediately.

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No, I don’t agree. We scored more points in 2016 than in any season since 2002. Only 4 UM teams since 2002 scored more points than the 2017 team, and two of those teams were only like two points better. He did that with Rosier at QB, virtually no RB depth, and a hobbled #1 WR. He did his best to mask the offensive deficiencies this year, but that fell apart late in the season. Most of my criticisms with Richt’s offense stem from his situational playcalling. I think he goes for it all on second down too often and that puts us in bad third down spots. I also think his 3rd and short and red zone playcalling could use some work, but I’m not that concerned about the offensive system as a whole.

Fair points but imo the reason his situational playcalling sucked is because his system needs revamping. His running scheme specifically is a hot mess. His zone blocking, big on big s hit needs to end. We are a spread team. Need to implement more spread power running ala Clemson/Auburn. Give ourselves the advantage in the running game which will open up easier throws in the passing game.

The rubber meets the road on offense NEXT year. There will be zero excuses for being dog s hit in the red zone and third down in year three. If there are, then it can be assumed its a schematic/coaching issue. The offense will be stacked with playmakers and he'll have his third qb to try it with.

While I agree that he isn't firing his son, I'll never be convinced he's not a wasted coaching spot. Sr. Has admitted on tape numerous times he's the qb coach/OC. Jr. Is redundant and unfireable.

You can post all the stats you want, we were underwhelming there when it counted and you know it. I like the engaged Richt as an offensive coordinator but imo he needs to be more involved in the total program. He can still be MORE involved on the offensive side but turn the day to day over to an innovative OC. Imo it will happen by necessity in the future.

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Richt has been trying to get the running game going his entire time here. He wasn’t able to do it this year because Walton got hurt. The OL was underwhelming which is a potential problem spot. Homer is a solid back but he’s not consistent enough to pick up 4-5 yards regularly. He pretty much either runs head first into the line or breaks a run. Our running offense really picked up in the second half of last season because Walton got going and Kaaya got comfortable.

Richt’s O put up points against the best Ds he faced this year besides Clemson. You guys act like we had the talent to have some monstoroous offense this year. We didn’t.

 

[brock]

Richt isnt bringing in “help” on the offensive side of the ball. It’s not happening any time soon. You may as well call for Richt to be fired because he isn’t bringing in outside guys to run a different system or coach QBs in their own way. He pretty clearly wants guys who know and can implement his system.

I get that and I'm not calling for his firing. I understand the logic, I just don't agree with it. Richt has done a great job changing culture and getting the most out of this team. Doesn't mean his offensive liabilities are beyond reproach. I feel the offensive staff is beyond over matched, don't you agree (beyond the reality he isn't firing his son)? IMO he'll be forced to eventually anyway. What must be done eventually, must be done immediately.

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No, I don’t agree. We scored more points in 2016 than in any season since 2002. Only 4 UM teams since 2002 scored more points than the 2017 team, and two of those teams were only like two points better. He did that with Rosier at QB, virtually no RB depth, and a hobbled #1 WR. He did his best to mask the offensive deficiencies this year, but that fell apart late in the season. Most of my criticisms with Richt’s offense stem from his situational playcalling. I think he goes for it all on second down too often and that puts us in bad third down spots. I also think his 3rd and short and red zone playcalling could use some work, but I’m not that concerned about the offensive system as a whole.

Fair points but imo the reason his situational playcalling sucked is because his system needs revamping. His running scheme specifically is a hot mess. His zone blocking, big on big s hit needs to end. We are a spread team. Need to implement more spread power running ala Clemson/Auburn. Give ourselves the advantage in the running game which will open up easier throws in the passing game.

The rubber meets the road on offense NEXT year. There will be zero excuses for being dog s hit in the red zone and third down in year three. If there are, then it can be assumed its a schematic/coaching issue. The offense will be stacked with playmakers and he'll have his third qb to try it with.

While I agree that he isn't firing his son, I'll never be convinced he's not a wasted coaching spot. Sr. Has admitted on tape numerous times he's the qb coach/OC. Jr. Is redundant and unfireable.

You can post all the stats you want, we were underwhelming there when it counted and you know it. I like the engaged Richt as an offensive coordinator but imo he needs to be more involved in the total program. He can still be MORE involved on the offensive side but turn the day to day over to an innovative OC. Imo it will happen by necessity in the future.

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Richt has been trying to get the running game going his entire time here. He wasn’t able to do it this year because Walton got hurt. The OL was underwhelming which is a potential problem spot. Homer is a solid back but he’s not consistent enough to pick up 4-5 yards regularly. He pretty much either runs head first into the line or breaks a run. Our running offense really picked up in the second half of last season because Walton got going and Kaaya got comfortable.

Richt’s O put up points against the best Ds he faced this year besides Clemson. You guys act like we had the talent to have some monstoroous offense this year. We didn’t.

Especially with all the injuries, you can make the case Diaz was working with more talent and underperformed more so than richt’s offense to be honest

 

[kryptonite]

I've posted about it before, but on the offensive side, we need someone with proven success and a impressive resume. The rest of our coaches on O, besides Dugans and arguably Searles, have below average resumes with no-playcalling experience.

Not sure why we wouldn't implement the same mentality that competition makes everyone better by bringing in a really good offensive mind with experience.

For the 47 thousandth time, all the imagination in the world isn't going to mean anything if guys don't do their jobs. If OL can't run block, play calling won't fix our running game. If our QB can't put the ball where he's supposed to, then the play call doesn't matter does it?

I'm not at all opposed to an OC or somebody to help on O, but our real problem this season was that we didn't have the guys to do the job. Until we do, an OC is of little value.

 

[thegrove]

I'm a golden girl lol? The narrative that won't die. Never said one positive thing about him post 2013, lost all hope post Louisville and NEVER white knighted for him (like you're doing here) EVER. Why you keep bringing him up?

If you don't think Sr. Needs some real help on the offensive side of the ball you can't be helped. Keep your head burried firmly up your *** please.

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Richt isnt bringing in “help” on the offensive side of the ball. It’s not happening any time soon. You may as well call for Richt to be fired because he isn’t bringing in outside guys to run a different system or coach QBs in their own way. He pretty clearly wants guys who know and can implement his system.

I get that and I'm not calling for his firing. I understand the logic, I just don't agree with it. Richt has done a great job changing culture and getting the most out of this team. Doesn't mean his offensive liabilities are beyond reproach. I feel the offensive staff is beyond over matched, don't you agree (beyond the reality he isn't firing his son)? IMO he'll be forced to eventually anyway. What must be done eventually, must be done immediately.

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No, I don’t agree. We scored more points in 2016 than in any season since 2002. Only 4 UM teams since 2002 scored more points than the 2017 team, and two of those teams were only like two points better. He did that with Rosier at QB, virtually no RB depth, and a hobbled #1 WR. He did his best to mask the offensive deficiencies this year, but that fell apart late in the season. Most of my criticisms with Richt’s offense stem from his situational playcalling. I think he goes for it all on second down too often and that puts us in bad third down spots. I also think his 3rd and short and red zone playcalling could use some work, but I’m not that concerned about the offensive system as a whole.

Fair points but imo the reason his situational playcalling sucked is because his system needs revamping. His running scheme specifically is a hot mess. His zone blocking, big on big s hit needs to end. We are a spread team. Need to implement more spread power running ala Clemson/Auburn. Give ourselves the advantage in the running game which will open up easier throws in the passing game.

The rubber meets the road on offense NEXT year. There will be zero excuses for being dog s hit in the red zone and third down in year three. If there are, then it can be assumed its a schematic/coaching issue. The offense will be stacked with playmakers and he'll have his third qb to try it with.

While I agree that he isn't firing his son, I'll never be convinced he's not a wasted coaching spot. Sr. Has admitted on tape numerous times he's the qb coach/OC. Jr. Is redundant and unfireable.

You can post all the stats you want, we were underwhelming there when it counted and you know it. I like the engaged Richt as an offensive coordinator but imo he needs to be more involved in the total program. He can still be MORE involved on the offensive side but turn the day to day over to an innovative OC. Imo it will happen by necessity in the future.

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How about you all agree to disagree. Although, I tend toward the he's doing just fine with the personnel he inherited. Next 2 seasons....they're all his for the most part.

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[ThomasM]

I don't mind Richt having complete control of the O. However, I WOULD like him to have an experienced set of eyes up in the booth helping him out.

 

[thegrove]

I don't mind Richt having complete control of the O. However, I WOULD like him to have an experienced set of eyes up in the booth helping him out.

That works.

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[CanesNation26]

No, I don’t agree. We scored more points in 2016 than in any season since 2002. Only 4 UM teams since 2002 scored more points than the 2017 team, and two of those teams were only like two points better. He did that with Rosier at QB, virtually no RB depth, and a hobbled #1 WR. He did his best to mask the offensive deficiencies this year, but that fell apart late in the season. Most of my criticisms with Richt’s offense stem from his situational playcalling. I think he goes for it all on second down too often and that puts us in bad third down spots. I also think his 3rd and short and red zone playcalling could use some work, but I’m not that concerned about the offensive system as a whole.

Who tf cares about 2002 LMAO. The game has changed. Offenses put up more points. Our Scoring Offense was #59 this year. Our Total Offense was #60 . Our Time of Possession was #123 . News flash, we didn't have great offenses between 2002-present, that time period shouldn't be the measuring stick. Our play calling is putrid, flat out baffling at times. Our offense was mediocre, at best. We had way too many 3 and outs. If you think this is primarily a talent problem, we'll see soon enough, but I guarantee you it isn't.

 

[paksat]

No, I don’t agree. We scored more points in 2016 than in any season since 2002. Only 4 UM teams since 2002 scored more points than the 2017 team, and two of those teams were only like two points better. He did that with Rosier at QB, virtually no RB depth, and a hobbled #1 WR. He did his best to mask the offensive deficiencies this year, but that fell apart late in the season. Most of my criticisms with Richt’s offense stem from his situational playcalling. I think he goes for it all on second down too often and that puts us in bad third down spots. I also think his 3rd and short and red zone playcalling could use some work, but I’m not that concerned about the offensive system as a whole.

Who tf cares about 2002 LMAO. The game has changed. Offenses put up more points. Our Scoring Offense was #59 this year. Our Total Offense was #60 . Our Time of Possession was #123 . News flash, we didn't have great offenses between 2002-present, that time period shouldn't be the measuring stick. Our play calling is putrid, flat out baffling at times. Our offense was mediocre, at best. We had way too many 3 and outs. If you think this is primarily a talent problem, we'll see soon enough, but I guarantee you it isn't.

lol come on man, use your brain on this issue.

we have a patty cake offensive line if you haven't noticed. We have a quarterback that didn't believe he could be benched and that completed less that 50% like.. every day

meanwhile if you read any of hurricane visions posts, you'll see WRs breaking wide f*cking open every.single.game.

wtf do you want?

 

[kmwcane]

No, I don’t agree. We scored more points in 2016 than in any season since 2002. Only 4 UM teams since 2002 scored more points than the 2017 team, and two of those teams were only like two points better. He did that with Rosier at QB, virtually no RB depth, and a hobbled #1 WR. He did his best to mask the offensive deficiencies this year, but that fell apart late in the season. Most of my criticisms with Richt’s offense stem from his situational playcalling. I think he goes for it all on second down too often and that puts us in bad third down spots. I also think his 3rd and short and red zone playcalling could use some work, but I’m not that concerned about the offensive system as a whole.

Who tf cares about 2002 LMAO. The game has changed. Offenses put up more points. Our Scoring Offense was #59 this year. Our Total Offense was #60 . Our Time of Possession was #123 . News flash, we didn't have great offenses between 2002-present, that time period shouldn't be the measuring stick. Our play calling is putrid, flat out baffling at times. Our offense was mediocre, at best. We had way too many 3 and outs. If you think this is primarily a talent problem, we'll see soon enough, but I guarantee you it isn't.

Did you read any of HurricaneVisions' breakdowns of each game?

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

No, I don’t agree. We scored more points in 2016 than in any season since 2002. Only 4 UM teams since 2002 scored more points than the 2017 team, and two of those teams were only like two points better. He did that with Rosier at QB, virtually no RB depth, and a hobbled #1 WR. He did his best to mask the offensive deficiencies this year, but that fell apart late in the season. Most of my criticisms with Richt’s offense stem from his situational playcalling. I think he goes for it all on second down too often and that puts us in bad third down spots. I also think his 3rd and short and red zone playcalling could use some work, but I’m not that concerned about the offensive system as a whole.

Who tf cares about 2002 LMAO. The game has changed. Offenses put up more points. Our Scoring Offense was #59 this year. Our Total Offense was #60 . Our Time of Possession was #123 . News flash, we didn't have great offenses between 2002-present, that time period shouldn't be the measuring stick. Our play calling is putrid, flat out baffling at times. Our offense was mediocre, at best. We had way too many 3 and outs. If you think this is primarily a talent problem, we'll see soon enough, but I guarantee you it isn't.

Great reading comprehension.

 

[CanesNation26]

No, I don’t agree. We scored more points in 2016 than in any season since 2002. Only 4 UM teams since 2002 scored more points than the 2017 team, and two of those teams were only like two points better. He did that with Rosier at QB, virtually no RB depth, and a hobbled #1 WR. He did his best to mask the offensive deficiencies this year, but that fell apart late in the season. Most of my criticisms with Richt’s offense stem from his situational playcalling. I think he goes for it all on second down too often and that puts us in bad third down spots. I also think his 3rd and short and red zone playcalling could use some work, but I’m not that concerned about the offensive system as a whole.

Who tf cares about 2002 LMAO. The game has changed. Offenses put up more points. Our Scoring Offense was #59 this year. Our Total Offense was #60 . Our Time of Possession was #123 . News flash, we didn't have great offenses between 2002-present, that time period shouldn't be the measuring stick. Our play calling is putrid, flat out baffling at times. Our offense was mediocre, at best. We had way too many 3 and outs. If you think this is primarily a talent problem, we'll see soon enough, but I guarantee you it isn't.

Great reading comprehension.

Yes I read your extremely dumb defense of richt just fine.