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“Carson Beck Has To Be Protected” Narrative Is Getting Old

OrangeBowlMagic said:
You also have to understand that this board perpetuated this bull**** as much as anyone nationally did for months.
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I piled on after the losses. I believe I tabbed him TBD many times. Guilty.
Somewhat repentant.
Ready to pile on again bc my lady bits are sensitive.
 
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It is not a coincidence that teams win games with Beck at QB. Winning at this level is hard to do. We can look at stats all day long of yards and TD and completion percentage, all of which matter, but the most important stat is wins.
 
CityboyCanes4life82 said:
I keep seeing the same tired take everywhere. “Miami can’t just let Carson Beck throw it.”
“You have to protect him.”
“If you put the game in his hands, he’ll give it away.”

That narrative is honestly getting sickening. People talk about Beck like he’s some limited quarterback who can’t win you a game with his arm. Like if Miami lets him operate the offense, it automatically means turnovers and trouble. But when you actually look at his production compared to other top quarterbacks, WTF are they talking about? Especially when you look at the numbers.

Julian Sayin (Ohio State)
3610 yards, 32 TDs, 8 INTs, 88.4 QBR

Fernando Mendoza (Indiana, Heisman winner)
3172 yards, 36 TDs, 6 INTs, 89.5 QBR

Diego Pavia (Vanderbilt, Heisman finalist)
3539 yards, 29 TDs, 8 INTs, 87.2 QBR

Dante Moore (Oregon)
3280 yards, 28 TDs, 9 INTs, 79.0 QBR

Trinidad Chambliss
3660 yards, 21 TDs, 3 INTs, 86.8 QBR

Now Carson Beck
3313 yards, 27 TDs, 10 INTs, 81.8 rating

Beck is right there with every one of these guys in yardage. He’s within a couple touchdowns of Moore and Pavia. His interception total is not some wild outlier for a quarterback who’s actually asked to throw the ball and move the offense. Yet somehow he’s the one being framed as “you can’t trust him, you have to protect him.”

What really gets me is how people act like Miami has to hide him, like letting Beck run the offense is a liability. Meanwhile, quarterbacks with nearly identical production are being praised as dynamic, fearless, “put the game in his hands” guys.

Beck isn’t some reckless passer just chucking it into coverage. He’s a rhythm and timing QB who reads the field, works the intermediate game, and keeps the offense on schedule. Is he perfect? No. But pretending he can’t beat you with his arm is crazy work

People act like he is an inaccurate QB, with 6 touchdowns 12 picks
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Beck simply cannot turn the ball over. His decision making is the key. He can throw it and I think he will throw it but Miami needs to be balanced on offense.
 
In fairness, Louisville game rekindled all of the criticism from his play at UGa in 2024, where he did turn the ball over quite a bit. He looked like he had never played QB before in that game. Seems like both he and Dawson learned from that game. Has been money down the stretch. Now win it all and that is what he will be remembered for.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
You also have to understand that this board perpetuated this bull**** as much as anyone nationally did for months.
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Yeah, but we were kind of piscced off when we only threw on 3rd and long after wasting scores of plays between the Guards, while the defenses were lined up there - three deep.

I don't know who cut the dogs loose since that retarded series of play calling - but that changed everything.
 
No mention of coming off elbow surgery either. He got significantly better and more accurate as the season went on because his arm was finally strong enough and he trusted it. Even in the ND game which he played well in, there were some throws that weren't quite in the right spot. With Beck and our defense we are a hard team to beat if we don't turn it over. He has protected the football since that SMU game ending pick.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
You also have to understand that this board perpetuated this bull**** as much as anyone nationally did for months.
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At the Stanford game there was a group in front of me screaming for Beck to be benched. I shook my head and thought "so you want Emory instead". I wonder what those same fans think now. Blows my mind how much the average simply doesn't know ball or understand the game.
 
LPK2006 said:
I freaking love when Beck takes those checkdowns. Safe plays that get our guys in a little space and almost always move the chains.
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The check down to Fletch against OSU on the drive he fumbled was huge. It might have been the longest pass play of game.
 
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Yoyo423 said:
Posted this yesterday. His stats over the last 6 games are as good as Chambliss.

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Post in thread 'Beck vs Trinidad Shambles'

ThomasM said:
FSU stinks, but they had a pretty potent O as well.
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FSU was 21 and USF was 23 and SMU is 28 in offensive effeciency.

So we've played 7 of the top 30 offensive efficiency teams so far. 4 in the top 15.
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Last 6 games and defensive effeciency rankings of teams:

Beck vs: Syracuse (#72), NCst (#69), VT (#103), Pitt (#16), A&M (#10) , OSU (#3)
122/158 -77%
1366 yards - 8.65ypa
13 TDs
1 INT

Shambles: South Carolina (28), Citadel (NR), UF (34), Miss St (64), Tulane (52), UGA (15)
143/198 -72%
1796 yards - 9ypa
12 TDs
2INTs


Trinidad is having a good run... But it's not that much, if at all, better than Beck's last 6 games.

And that includes two games from Beck where he barely has to throw the ball and a game for Ole Miss against the Citadel.

By the way, we're 4th in defensive effeciency and Ole Miss is 49th.

Ole Miss is 8th on offense. We're 17th.

Some other offenses we've played and their offensive effeciency rankings:

ND 2, OSU 6, NCst 12, A&M 15

We've played plenty of good offense comparable to Ole Miss including our last 2 games and 3 in our last 6.

They haven't played a defense like ours for months (OU is 6th in defensive effeciency they played in October.)
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Man you put in work!
 
One game of the yips is all the sec idiots have. Guy wants to win and we win with game control not 400 yards passing especially bigger games so I guess dumb people gonna dumb
 
scrantoncane said:
I agree with OP. The narrative is everywhere, every podcast I listen to, and it is false.

Ole Miss DBs can be had. Don’t be surprised if we lean on Beck a little more this game. If you’re Ole Miss, you gotta be trying to stop the run and make Beck beat you. I think he can.
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Agreed, I don't doubt we'll try to run the ball, but I've also seen a different side of Dawson lately, so a different plan wouldn't shock me. I feel it's a good position to be in.
 
I enjoy watching him play the position. He’s in constant command of the offense, doesn’t make silly mistakes(other than that one bad game), and always understands what it takes to put the team in a position to win. Simpleton’s think if you don’t throw for a ton of yards and TD’s you aren’t a good QB. There’s more than one way to skin a cat. To use a baseball analogy, you had guys like Nolan Ryan who won a lot of games by throwing gas and striking out a lot of hitters. Then you had Greg Maddux, who didn’t throw hard at all, but was a cerebral guy who understood each situation, had impeccable control, and knew what it takes to win. Both are HOF’s, but went about it a different way.
 
Carson Beck vs Ole Miss in 2023... UGA won 52-17... Ole Miss was ranked #9 at the time...

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