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‘26 QB Dereon Coleman commits to Miami

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JADood said:
He actually did throw the 2 INTs according to everyone there that watched. They mixed up DC and the other guys numbers in the write up, but that was it. Pretty sure everyone watching wouldn’t be lying about it, intentionally, just to blackball one participant. But you’re going to ask why would Dereon and Baylin be lying about it? My answer to that is look at the past 2 comments I’ve addressed. “The event doesn’t matter”, “they hate Miami”, “pretty sure the person throwing the ball would know”. It’s damage control and to cast doubt on the results and divert attention away from the performance he had. The truth doesn’t matter when the lie is more entertaining.
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This guy crying and writing paragraphs about Elite 11 results at 2AM lmao

It ain’t that deep
 
Problem2 said:
This guy crying and writing paragraphs about Elite 11 results at 2AM lmao

It ain’t that deep
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Didn’t shed a single tear. Someone asked a question, I was just elaborating. Also, I work nights, so there’s that.

It ain’t that deep.
 
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm not that upset with 247's treatment of Coleman.

For starters, high school quarterbacks are a crapshoot in general. There's a lot of room for subjectivity.

But beyond that, Coleman actually does have outlier size. He had some trouble getting his throws off when I saw him live in the state title game. He also doesn't play any other sports in high school. Per reports, he didn't do well hitting deeper targets at Elite 11. He has an edge, which can be good, but the UA camp is the first time I've heard a counselor call out a QB during the award ceremony for having an attitude.

That's not to say he will fail. I'm excited to watch him, and the coaches are over the moon about him. But this isn't an injustice of a ranking. Joel Ervin as a three star was a joke (they changed it). Ben Congdon as a three star was a joke (they changed it). Jasen Lopez as a three star is a joke (I expect it to change).

This one is more defensible. The good news it that most of the best quarterbacks in the NFL had the same ranking or worse in high school.
 
DMoney said:
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm not that upset with 247's treatment of Coleman.

For starters, high school quarterbacks are a crapshoot in general. There's a lot of room for subjectivity.

But beyond that, Coleman actually does have outlier size. He had some trouble getting his throws off when I saw him live in the state title game. He also doesn't play any other sports in high school. Per reports, he didn't do well hitting deeper targets at Elite 11. He has an edge, which can be good, but the UA camp is the first time I've heard a counselor call out a QB during the award ceremony for having an attitude.

That's not to say he will fail. I'm excited to watch him, and the coaches are over the moon about him. But this isn't an injustice of a ranking. Joel Ervin as a three star was a joke (they changed it). Ben Congdon as a three star was a joke (they changed it). Jasen Lopez as a three star is a joke (I expect it to change).

This one is more defensible. The good news it that most of the best quarterbacks in the NFL had the same ranking or worse in high school.
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coleman was called out over attitude issues?
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I’d have been the first one to say it doesn’t mean anything if he’d have performed so well that the people there suggested he skip college and go right to the NFL.

It doesn’t mean anything. It’s not football.
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This. I’ve always said these events don’t mean a **** thing. Underwear Olympics. You want to do well in them, csuse its a competition, and you’re a competitor. But at the end of the day, just like you said, “it’s not football.”
 
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JADood said:
I always find it amusing when people take this approach when players that have been hyped up, underperform in certain scenarios. Be it Elite 11, a camp or even spring/summer. Because if he would have won it, no one would be saying it doesn’t matter how well he did.
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The kid who won MVP didnt even look better then our True freshman WR in pads..show me how he performs in real games could careless about 7 v 7 n i'd ffeel the same exact way had Coleman won MVP, Nice accolade for sure but tells me nothing about how succesful they will be on saturdays.
 
That boi DC the truth man, yall gone see. Like DMoney said, some the best qbs ever, did not attend or even sniff the E11.
I.E. the annointed one- Cam “iceman” Ward.
I bet he woulda had an attitude too… smh.
 
Alex_Dynamix said:
The kid who won MVP didnt even look better then our True freshman WR in pads..show me how he performs in real games could careless about 7 v 7 n i'd ffeel the same exact way had Coleman won MVP, Nice accolade for sure but tells me nothing about how succesful they will be on saturdays.
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Never said anything or even alluded to anyone’s Elite 11 performance telling you how successful they are going to be on Saturdays. All I said was if he had won, people would definitely be celebrating it instead of saying it meant/means nothing.
 
JADood said:
Never said anything or even alluded to anyone’s Elite 11 performance telling you how successful they are going to be on Saturdays. All I said was if he had won, people would definitely be celebrating it instead of saying it meant/means nothing.
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Yep...ppl are gonna say he's overhyped if he doesnt do good (like they'r doing now), and they are gonna Celebrate/crown him if he had won, it goes both ways
 
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Bell is mid AF and only rated that high because Texas round here giving out free lunches and made the recruiting services think he is good instead of watching the games and using their eyes.
 
One thing not mentioned is that the Elite 11 already has the QBs ranked when they come into the Finals. They do not reset the rankings. So if a kid isn't already in their top 11 and they to be clearly better than those already ranked ahead of them. Just shows that the event "Finals" is kind of a farce since the top ranked kids already get the benefit of being ranked higher and thus there are already built in bias in their favor.

DC wasn't at his best at the event but I dont think it would have mattered unless he was clearly one of the best there and anyone thinking he is a top 5 or so QB prospect was definitely drinking the kool-aid. He's got a lot of arm talent to work with but he's not there yet.
 
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