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Would be more a testament to learning under Enos IF he's successful here than him having learned under Helton at SC- someone you correctly deemed as trash. My scenario is heavily predicated upon Enos being wildly successful here and leaving while valuing what Martin is right now- an elite...

Would you take Todd Marinovich instead?

I can see them going the Rumph route and offering it to a former player. Beard, Lamar Thomas, etc.

It's an impressive enough list for me. https://247sports.com/Coach/Tee-Martin-180/Recruits/?RecruitmentYear=2018

Ohhh, I'd absolutely defer to Enos but the co-OC thing is very widely used. Most of the time it's beyond obvious who the real OC is. But I'd be fine with giving him the Jess Simpson "Associate Head Coach" title too.

We can agree to disagree on his value but you wouldn't get him under the pretenses of "come prove yourself as a positions coach first" unless he truly has ZERO interest elsewhere as he's too highly regarded as a recruiter for that to happen.

I get the gist of what you're saying but the titles themself are often only used to publicly justify pay raises and/or lucrative salaries. And while there's a strong case to be made that Martin didn't deserve our actual OC title, he absolutely would deserve a lucrative salary to be an elite...

On the surface you're right but then see Jess Simpson (a guy I Iike very much) is Assoc. HEAD COACH. These are just titles.

Hated him as a our potential playcalling OC (now). Would love him as this.

Enough so that he floated his own name directly to anyone that'd listen. If comparable OC opportunities don't arise then why not come on here as a very well paid WR coach/elite recruiter/OC-in-waiting? IF our offense gets going then that's going to be a reputational rising tide that the...