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Could be. He was really close. Hard to know who can get below 10.

Curious for others’s views on this: In all the years of UM football, iirc the only legit 4.4 range Lbs we have had were willie williams, darrin smith and maybe dj williams. T gooden and t russell were just off that. Armstead was close before injury, but probably a legit 4.5 guy.

Deion was unbelievably fast and athletic. He was not world class, but right off that. But it translated so well athletically. I would guess if he really trained track he could have been a marginal olympic level athlete, but he wasn’t a sub-10 guy, imo. Darrell Green was faster, and did have...

I wasnt even going to mention sanders because using him as an analogy almost blows up the argument. I think the best example of footbal speed was actually devin hester, who was fast but not that fast. But he could sense / feel the entire field around him, sense where seams would emerge, see...

You can coach and train speed. Others here have pointed it out. The Russians in fact were really good at it. They used overspeed training (basically, tie a guy to the back of a car and start driving a bit faster than he can run). It actually got the body to learn to exceed what it...

It’s important to note in the speed discussion, that elite speed is a separate issue from good speed for starting unit purposes. 4.5 40s is fine across your DBs. Fine across your WRs. BUT, having a guy on either side of the ball who can go sub 4.4 can really change things. It pressures...

10.3 is rare. Bracy ran a 10.12, iirc, which was the fastest 100 in Hs in ages. Maybe ever. But wind aided iirc. There are a few guys each year who can play football and also run a 10.3-10.4. Hester ran a 10.4. Iirc terrell walden was a track guy too but not a football guy. Maybe im...

Keep in mind, the discussion here was getting faster from 9th grade to college, not from Hs senior to college.

So you’re quibbeling with 4/100th of a second? Most kids who train get faster between their freshman and junior years of high school, so you would expect him to be getting faster. You mention weight but it’s silly. He’s developing as a teen, and good weight doesn’t need to slow a kid down...

Darrin Smith ran a 10.7 100m.

For the most part, the reports list a kid who runs a 4.49 as a ‘4.4’ kid. Willie Williams ran in the 4.4s. DJ did, iirc. Darrin Smith and Jessie Armstead clocked sub-4.5s in their time.

We sure had a lot of decommits. Amazing how many kids we ‘moved on’ from.

I remember that 100 m time for pope and probably have posts on this board noting it. Not sure he ever replicated it but no concerns with pope - the discussion is over elite speed generally. I dont even want to ask for sub-4.3 guys. They barely exist. Benjamin was our last one, iirc. I think...

is it obvious? He looked like a great athlete to me. More concerned he bailed on us.

Are you seriously contending that our speed is comparable today to our better teams of the past?

I did know that pope got a 100 time his senior year that was really fast. Not sure about wind aided on it but also, 40 and 100 are different. But it doesnt matter. I called pope fast. He isnt blazing fast, in any case. There’s no point to the fast vs athlete discussion because i am not...

Just a year back, Shivers who went to Auburn was fast as heck, iirc. Obviously surtain, campbell, henderson. X. Williams. Just off memory from 1 year back. There are fast kids every cycle. We can go play the name game but it’s pointless. It’s a roster fact we have to live with that our...

Yep. Jackson was fast. S. Taylor was. Rolle was pretty fast. McGahee was really fast. Gore was quicker than anyone pre-injury.

Yep. Jackson was fast. S. Taylor was. Rolle was pretty fast. McGahee was really fast. Gore was quicker than anyone pre-injury.

We’re not ‘a team.’ We’re miami. We want to compete for hardware, not also-ran ribbons. We are in speed central. It’s our legacy, too. Andre Johnson is fast. Thrill Hill was fast. Kevin Williams was. Yatil Green. German. Dorsett. Portis. L. Miller. Buchanon. A. Burns. DVD. Bruce...