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Could’ve been worse. At least whoever took that picture wasn’t there - and didn’t have to walk by tennis courts, through a race track, and over a shoddily constructed bridge, in the rain, all whilst contemplating the very nature/usefulness of existence.

So now it's no longer dead, just close to being dead. Progress!!! Again, the political landscape is what it is, today. And it is constantly changing. If nobody (ever) can find a way to sell to "the residents and local pols" that 65% of a drastically upgraded park is better than 100% of a...

Not Relly. Tropical Park. 2 miles from campus. Already a football stadium at the site. Plenty of room. An area ripe for re-development. Literally abuts a major highway. Wouldn't have to worry about relocating people or businesses (although, purchasing some of the warehouses across the 874/826...

So now we’re back to even if we did have the land and the money, we shouldn’t even talk about it because some people might be (hypothetically) inconvenienced. The snake has fully eaten its tail.

Fair enough. But... in 2030, when our lease is 2 years from ending, and whoever owns the Dolphins is doing more things that inconvenience our tenancy, and current/past/future players are still saying how bad the place is, and LIFW is worth more than amazon... let's see.

I never said it would be on public land either - merely pointed out that they are leaving their conveniently located super bowl hosting stadium and spending a lot of money to do so. No, I have stated, 50x, we'd have to buy land. The rest is just dreck I don't have to respond to. No, we...

Thank you, resident USF and Tampa real estate expert (who happened to be unaware USF was building a stadium until I mentioned it yesterday). I'm sure you know how the rest of my response would go - so I'll pivot. Heat in 6.

Funny, seems like every other serious football school (well, even non-serious football schools ie USF) is spending 9 figures on their stadium. Wonder why? Seeing as how that's all just depreciating lacks optimal roi and could be better spent elsewhere. We might need 10 figures (if you say so, I...

No, it's not. You're a dodderer with no vision whose thoughts on the future are meaningless. See, I can do it too.

I get it. You will keep making the labor pains > baby argument until you are sitting in section 305 of our new stadium. Cool.

LOL - maybe. Or, I might be adding a little color to my prose. Though at least one of those is 100% true, I'll let you ponder which. Also, I looked it up. The land at Magic City was sold for 96 million (not over a billion). You probably could've just cut a check.

Perhaps you were stuck in a glass case of emotion and did not have access to the middle part of the thread -but we've gone over this already. The school with 350 million for new dorms and 100 mill for a new athletics center and... has no money. OK. That's your opinion. Even if it were so, OK...

A) you guys like to say that, but its just vapid nonsense. Different because you say so. Ok. Money is money. Raise it. Buy it. Build it. Not rocket science. That argument hasn’t changed since my first post. B) definitely not the smartest guy in the room. Especially wrt money. My old lady...

You got one thing right.

Capital improvements and infrastructure projects aren’t “investments.” Im guessing Tennessee could put the 340 million they have earmarked for Neyland into one of your index funds and have a nice little nest egg in 20 years. Wont help their crumbling 80 year old stadium, but I guess it’d be nice...

So, back to we don’t have enough money and it’s going to be too difficult. Fine. Again, I disagree.

Just because I don't have all of the answers to all of your questions does not mean that there are no answers (or even that you are asking the correct questions). If you asked me to build a lunar lander, I couldn't do that either, but I know there are people who can. No one is saying it would...

So you know that the USF stadium is well past the "lets spend 20 mil on a design as a publicity stunt" stage of the development, right? You can just hand wave the idea away with "it's impossible" 10 million times, doesn't make that statement any truer (and, in general, the it's possible side of...

@hoops156 So I can put you in the have your cake and eat it too class, that's fine. I know how pro teams work. Hence, why I mentioned it's a necessary cost of business as opposed to a bad investment. Let's say in 2035 the Dolphins decide they no longer wish to have a permanent tenant in their...