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again you're changing the narrative because you don't seem capable of intelligent conversation the point is not about ensminger and I never stated I wanted him or someone with just "experience" I said I want someone who's proven they are successful Brady i'm sure will be good, I would prefer...

it was never about ensminger nor about brady being bad it's everything about us being a major institution and wanting someone more proven, that's it. don't change the narrative

brady wasn't CO-OC, he was WR coach and passing game coordinator

these are some amazing points, and everyone on here will ignore them because brady is their savior let's go get briles or someone who's EARNED the right to be the OC at miami, not someone who weasel'd there way up the ladder as fast as possible and fell on their face

I don't hold it against him for being the scapegoat, although he was not good by any means. Regardless of talent, the playcalling at times was horrendous in carolina. but can anyone say that he would have been an OC in the nfl ANYWHERE else if not for Rhule literally hiring an ALL College...

I can get with this I wouldn't be ****ed with brady, my point is though that we can do much better. It's about winning, hiring people who "might be great" is amateur hour. time for briles, herman, mullen, etc. if they say no for sure get brady

and I can tell you didn't read the thread they are leaning on 2019 to dispute our point that the dude has never been a successful OC and has never had sustained success calling plays I'm sorry but arent' we now SERIOUS about football again and investing $$ into the program for elite coaches...

again, i'm not saying he's bad or that he will be bad I'm just saying we should get someone more proven. he hasn't shown the ability to call plays at a high level.

you sound like you may be joe brady so let me clarify, he had a great impact but he's never been a successful playcaller. PERIOD. We have money, we're a top program. we need a good proven OC, not someone the message board fanboys love and adore because he helped gameplan a few years ago on an...

then why aren't you asking for the LSU OC that year to be our OC? he WAS the OC afterall and called 90% of the plays i'm sure he made adjustments from the year prior that contributed to the jump in productivity. it's naive to think brady had more of an impact than the OC imo

this might be hard for you to understand, but that's my point. If he was generational talent with the same staff he would have beaten out king last year year right? no offenses take time to groove and get in a rhythm, most coordinators and offensives get much better in year 2. Brady came in...

this could he be a good OC? yea has he been? no get kendal briles or someone who's turned around multiple programs and shown immediate results

people flying to brady's defense, nobody is saying he isn't good but we are investing a TON OF $$ into the program. Does saban hire passing game coordinators to run his offense and give position coaches their first shot at OC? **** even didn't LSU didn't hire him for the role I just think...

TVD wasn't good last year, he was amazing this year what changed about our offense? players were more comfortable it's not a stupid *** debate, you guys are fangirling over joe brady and you're victimized over 2 decades of us hiring crap coordinators. we have real $$. Joe brady is promising...

nobody is denying the leaps and bounds it took when he was on staff but why get someone we have to debate whether or not the impact was solely on them, rather than going and hiring a PROVEN OC who has done it at multiple stops like kendal briles? did brady have an impact? of course, was it...

well regardless of the roster, hiring 2 college coordinators (1 average DC, and 1 who was NEVER an OC) was an amateur move

what do you guys think about a timeline here? if i remember correctly, richt didn't hire assistants until like mid to late january

Rhule was a college HC brought in phil snow a college DC at baylor and Joe Brady, a college passing game coordinator that had never been an OC before so to answer your question as a panthers fan, I have no f'ing idea what Rhule is thinking and it'll probably cost him his job in a month

and he wasn't even the one with the controller

don't watch tv regularly, working from today i gather she's a miami fan by her comments today so I probably should have known her