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You said top 5 the last 2 years. It wasn't top 5 in 2017.

Defense hasn't been top 5 last 2 years. Defense wasnt even top 25 in 2017.

They say ford was all world in the spring. He a big strong dude and we been lacking that inside.

He isn't going there. They hyped up because he was just at there camp and then he decommited but him leaving has been planned way before that.

In 2018 the top 10 in sfla was in order surtain, campbell, cook, nesta, samuel jr, pope, austin, blades, williams, and scaife. They got 4 out of the top 10. And they didn't recruit cook or samuel. 11-20 was schwartz, cam harris, joseph, hall, frierson, moore, chatfield, bonitto, hicks, wilson...

There are a few people on here who believe winning doesn't matter and that all it's about is paying recruits.

You not high on ford and nesta?

Winning ties into it. Winning brings in more money and more people who want to be a part of that. Clemson and fsu under jimbo are the prime example.

Facts. Like i said you have to win or pay but the best results are both. Miami isn't doing either and that's why they have struggled for so long.

Even that rat shapiro said he never gave recruits money to come to miami because he didn't have to. He also said he never got involved in it because they wouldn't be able to outbid the sec. I'm sure once they were here guys looked out for them as matter a fact i know they did because luke was...

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Man fúck this dude. Im not worried bout DE. Mods lock this shît up.

The decision wasn't made today. I heard last month he was going to decommit.

Nah he said he wasn't going to push any of his players to miami.

Nah the school matters. They not taking the money and just going anywhere.

He leaving booker t.

It aint over yet. You saw a little crack of hope in 2017 that it can come back.

Money is involved. Im not saying winning fixes everything but it helps. The more you win the more money comes in. You need a combination of both.

Clemson highest ranked class since 2013 has been 7th. They have had a few classes outside the top 10. Their class with deshaun watson was only 16th and the class average was 88. That class played in 2 title games.

Winning matters. These dudes aint lining up taking money from any school. They taking money from schools that win. Clemson aint never recruited at this level until they started winning. They had a lil bread to throw at a sammy watkins here and there but now after years of winning and some paper...