VIP Insight from Fall scrimmage #2

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This discussion about Pringle vs Fletcher is still going on?
It will never end. The hate for Fletcher started his freshman year, and it hasn’t stopped—even after he’s proven everyone wrong countless times.
 
until the tape was pulled and now Deejay Dallas is far superior to Fletcher
Anyone who doesn't see why Pringle didn't play much last year after his emergence should rehink whether he/she gets the sport or not.
 
100% dude, that fool @ShadowSpring is either full ret@rd, or he straight up trolling with his Pringle nonsense. I tried to tell him the other day that if the dude can’t block, he ain’t gonna play. Fletcher is the best running back in the ACC and maybe even the country, anyone who says otherwise again has gone full ret@rd! And you know what Robert Downey jr said about that? Lmao
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Back up your claims that Pringle can't block. One missed block in a game doesn't prove that. There's alos not tape of him repeatedly missing blocks to back up this claim. Fletcher missed a block in the Ole Miss game.

You like to make all sorts of claims but can't back any of it up.
 
until the tape was pulled and now Deejay Dallas is far superior to Fletcher
Pringle is better and the tape proved it lol. the man literally showed a game of Pringle hitting 6.8 ypc and somehow the tape says he's not good? Da fuq are you trying to say. All that tape showed was we only ran DUO a few times.
 
100% dude, that fool @ShadowSpring is either full ret@rd, or he straight up trolling with his Pringle nonsense. I tried to tell him the other day that if the dude can’t block, he ain’t gonna play. Fletcher is the best running back in the ACC and maybe even the country, anyone who says otherwise again has gone full ret@rd! And you know what Robert Downey jr said about that? Lmao
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In a concerted effort to derail the Fletcher v Pringle argument, I would like to focus on what I believe is one of the greatest comedy monologues of all time; Robert Downey jr in Tropic Thunder.
So great that the expression “never go full r*tard” has become a part of American lexicon while simultaneously being politically incorrect. Case in point CIS will not even allow me to type r*tard.

I still feel Robert Downey should have won the Oscar for best supporting actor for Tropic Thunder. A classic movie and a classic character.
 
Marty played well against ND, UF and OSU. Very productive 3rd down and redzone back.

Lyle was a Major liability, which called into question his freshman success; since under reexamination the majority of his rushing yards were against three non-P4 teams and the majority of his remaining yardage came against a mediocre Wake Forest run defense.

I think Lyle, at his best, is similar to Ryan Howard as he is a bipolar, homer or strikeout type of hitter-runner. But we’re reaching a point of no return with his greentree all American lore.

He is the obvious odd man out here if we’re being fr but he isn’t on the outs yet because how well he practices
Ryan Howard was a mosnter. Maybe Joey Gallo is a better example.
 
Are you ****ting me right now? Lmao
Do so. One missed block doesn't prove this. It also doesn't prove he hasn't improved. Can't block is a big claim. This is saying he literally can't do it and there's no hope of improvement in year 2.

If he can't block then there must be a lot of tape of missed blocks not just one.
 
So tape of a RB gashing a team for 6.8 ypc proves he's not good? Strange. Very strange.
I'm not gonna lie. I jumped in. Made a Dee Jay's Ace reference and was jumping out. I don't even know what's going on. Abort mission.
 
Do so. One missed block doesn't prove this. It also doesn't prove he hasn't improved. Can't block is a big claim. This is saying he literally can't do it and there's no hope of improvement in year 2.

If he can't block then there must be a lot of tape of missed blocks not just one.
Part of it was that he was only 185–190 pounds during his freshman year. Sure, you can hold your own against the VT and NC States of the world. However, he would have gotten decapitated if he tried to block Sonny Styles or Arvell Reese for an entire game. That's not a knock on Pringle; he was only a true freshman

The playoffs are big-boy football, which is why you primarily saw Fletcher and Brown. I’m glad the staff chose those two because they were a huge reason we made it all the way to the championship game.
 
NC State, first drive. He was blown up so badly that they inserted Marty Brown and Bauman as HBs out of pony personnel a play later and Pringle was pulled from blocking duty altogether. It was a 2nd and 6 in the red area, precisely the play where a RB needs to block. After that, Marty Brown was the chip blocker on pure passing downs and on 3rd and 10+, Bauman was inserted as well. And don't tell me that didn't happen, I just clicked through the game and can give you timestamps if you want.

It also doesn't prove he hasn't improved.
We have no idea if he hasn't done so, which he'll have to show in two weeks. Nobody is ruling out an improvement, you're pretending to do so.

Can't block is a big claim. This is saying he literally can't do it and there's no hope of improvement in year 2.
1. Not a big claim, the coaching staff pulled him out of these duties for evident reasons that you choose to ignore. 2. Saying that someone can't block is not an indictment on his capabilities to block in the future. That's what you say, not what we say. Or I say, for that matter.

The notion that Fletcher is not a better RB than Pringle is absolutely nonsensical. He's more consistent and capable in pass protection, adaquate as a pass catcher and has shown enough consistent production to be considered the best RB in the backfield. Mark Fletcher has posted 172, 90, 133 and 112 in the postseason even with the rest of the offense being invisiable at times. Pringle is a second-year player who was probably 15 lbs too light to assume anything more than backup duty last season.

Can Pringle develop into the best RB in the room? Sure. Is he now? No. Is this bad? No.
 
So when Pringle was in the portal I pulled up this highlight tape and immediately thought to myself; it would really suck if this young man does transfer because he was really great at these inside runs. If you want to nitpick about the A gap or the B Gap and if it was Duo or an inside zone go ahead. This young man doesn't hesitate, hits these holes hard, and find them on a consistent basis.

Such an effortless runner
 
Part of it was that he was only 185–190 pounds during his freshman year. Sure, you can hold your own against the VT and NC States of the world. However, he would have gotten decapitated if he tried to block Sonny Styles or Arvell Reese for an entire game. That's not a knock on Pringle; he was only a true freshman

The playoffs are big-boy football, which is why you primarily saw Fletcher and Brown. I’m glad the staff chose those two because they were a huge reason we made it all the way to the championship game.
Yes and all of that is fine. Yet the tape does show he DID block Styles enough to get off a pass to Jojo. He stood in there and took it. The second block he missed the assignment when Styles blitzed. That's when was pulled, but that was also the end of the 3rd quarter so he could've just been taken out in place of Fetcher. He's just a true freshman and one that only just started getting reps, these things happen. It clearly doesn't mean he CAN'T block. Let's see him in year 2 with a whole offseason of improving.
 
Such an effortless runner
Thank you. This is literally all I been asking people to do. Check out the tape. The kid has talent. I think he will end up better than Fletcher but whatever that's just my opinion. Regardless the young man is going to play a lot.
 
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