The Franchise said:

Southcane said:

John77 said:

Resisting arrest verbally is about as bull**** as a reason to arrest somebody as anything. It is absurd that someone can get arrested for simply "verbally resisting." Since when are people not allowed to disagree with police officers? The police need to get off their power trip and start to do their job, protect and serve THE PEOPLE not themselves.

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Wait a second, what the was the officer supposed to do? After asking 7 times he was supposed to acknowledge defeat, drop his head down and get in his car and drive away leaving the 2 golden boys obstruct traffic? The "kids" were in the middle of the road obstructing traffic and the officer duty is to get them out of the middle of the road and let the traffic move. Officers can be ***holes and all but when you do something like that you're hands need to be in cuffs and learn a lesson.

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It was interesting that they counted the exact number of times they told them to get out of the street. That doesn't sound fabricated at all.

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that I'll agree with. I've only seen a police officer at max tell someone to do something 3 times

Southcane said:

John77 said:

Resisting arrest verbally is about as bull**** as a reason to arrest somebody as anything. It is absurd that someone can get arrested for simply "verbally resisting." Since when are people not allowed to disagree with police officers? The police need to get off their power trip and start to do their job, protect and serve THE PEOPLE not themselves.

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Wait a second, what the was the officer supposed to do? After asking 7 times he was supposed to acknowledge defeat, drop his head down and get in his car and drive away leaving the 2 golden boys obstruct traffic? The "kids" were in the middle of the road obstructing traffic and the officer duty is to get them out of the middle of the road and let the traffic move. Officers can be ***holes and all but when you do something like that you're hands need to be in cuffs and learn a lesson.

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Why weren't they charged with obstructing traffic along with resisting? Hmm. Shouldn't they have to commit an arrestable offense before they can actually resist the arrest of said offense? Sounds like SHullBit!

Zbrod95 said:

Republicane said:

Zbrod95 said:

John77 said:

Resisting arrest verbally is about as bull**** as a reason to arrest somebody as anything. It is absurd that someone can get arrested for simply "verbally resisting." Since when are people not allowed to disagree with police officers? The police need to get off their power trip and start to do their job, protect and serve THE PEOPLE not themselves.

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Just chill with the protect themselves BS, I've been on calls where the cop has a fractured Orbitual bone around his eye because he was afraid to pull his gun, lose his job and be called a racist because he was white with all this black lives matter BS. Granted some stuff was over the line but Emergency Responders has seen a rise in law enforcement injuries because of that stuff. All lives matter

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Ugh. Nothing worse than when a guy has to think twice before shooting and killing someone. Hopefully he'll get his stroke back.

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Ha ha very funny, quick question what would you do if you were putting someone in handcuffs and the person's significant other came around and hit you in the head a pipe continuously, would you find it funny then?

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You need to quit equating my sarcasm with levity. And what would I do? I would defend myself. If I was really and truly scared my life was going to end, I'd draw my weapon and shoot my attacker. I'd rather live and deal with any consequences than the alternative. What I wouldn't do is say to myself, "Welp, I'm about to be bludgeoned to death, but I don't want to be called a racist so I guess I'll just go ahead and die." Nobody in that situation says, "I'm not going to pull out my gun because I'd rather die than get fired." If so, then you didn't really feel your life was in danger. Self preservation is the strongest impulse we have. It overrides everything.

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Dirty Sprite said:

Looks like some pig cop bullshxt to me

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That's some really ignorant and ghetto mentality you people have there. 99% of cops arent crooked pieces of **** like the media brainwashes people into thinking. I know a few and they all just wanna do there job, not get in trouble, not get labeled a racist, and most importantly not get killed. I dont envy that job whatsoever.

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prinmemo said:

Dirty Sprite said:

Looks like some pig cop bullshxt to me

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That's some really ignorant and ghetto mentality you people have there. 99% of cops arent crooked pieces of **** like the media brainwashes people into thinking. I know a few and they all just wanna do there job, not get in trouble, not get labeled a racist, and most importantly not get killed. I dont envy that job whatsoever.

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I just got pulled over by the nicest cops I've ever encountered, and they were still ********.

And I'm a white guy in my late twenties with a law degree.

Lots of mouth breathers with GEDs and badges running around with their palms itching at their hips. Not all, certainly you're right about that. But lots.

Zbrod95 said:

The Franchise said:

I hope they weren't trying to block any speedy cars.

If the cops really wanted them to move they should have pretended to call a play. Both of those dudes would have jumped early.

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or used the old donut on a stick trick...their 10 yard shuttle times would've been eye popping

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They would have tried that but an exposed donut has a life expectancy of about 3 nanoseconds in front of a cop.

The charge of resisting an officer without violence gives the impression that it requires an arrest, but it does not. It only requires obstructing an officer carrying out his or her official duties. I see it all the time, and 9 out of 10 times it is a bs charge leveled because the officer was ****ed. That's exactly what this arrest was (especially since the arresting officer was a sergeant) and that's why the charges were dropped. It's just stupid they had to be arrested at all.

Republicane said:

Cane Fan 4 Life said:

Republicane said:

Cane Fan 4 Life said:

It's so easy NOT to get arrested. SMH at today's youth.

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The US having more of its citizens in jails proportionally than any other country on the planet would seem to contradict that assertion.

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It does not contradict anything. People breaking various laws get arrested. People who choose to disobey and not comply with law enforcement get arrested.

It's easy NOT to get arrested, but most lack that common sense that isn't so common.

If an officer tells you to get on the sidewalk so you don't get hit by car, you should probably get on the sidewalk.

In the grand scheme, is this a petty arrest? Absolutely!

Could it have been avoided if our players listened to the officer?

Absolutely!

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Cops arrest people. The court system determines if they are guilty of breaking any laws. To hear you tell it, if the cops kicked your door in right now and slapped cuffs on you, you wouldn't say a word and just go to jail because, "I'm in cuffs so I must have broken the law!"

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This actually happens quite a bit in Central Florida, here is a video from last month.

And two years ago about 15 miles away in lake county the sheriffs non uniformed special unit kicked in the door of the wrong house and killed the home owner all why never identifying themselves.

Link to Article
Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door | Local News - Home

Mind you they had the house under surveillance and still went to the wrong subdivision at 4 in the morning, the guy who was killed heard his door being kicked in got his gun and went to confront the intruders and they shot him dead in front of family then indentified themselves. The FDLE cleared the officers of wrong doing.

The people in the video were told tough luck by the police and call their insurance
[video=youtube_share;HXED-IIN3wY]http://youtu.be/HXED-IIN3wY[/video]

The Franchise said:

Is being fat and sloppy an arrestable offense? I better stay in if it is.

Little details are starting to leak. Word is they tried to run from the cops but took 3 strides, gassed out and started tapping their afros.

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Ole Gus Felder just copped a life sentence

It's amazing how life brings everyone together during natural disasters and entertainment. But then as soon as it's all over with its back to the BS.

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prinmemo said:

Dirty Sprite said:

Looks like some pig cop bullshxt to me

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That's some really ignorant and ghetto mentality you people have there. 99% of cops arent crooked pieces of **** like the media brainwashes people into thinking. I know a few and they all just wanna do there job, not get in trouble, not get labeled a racist, and most importantly not get killed. I dont envy that job whatsoever.

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lol at you calling people ignorant when you can't tell the difference between their and there.

CaneClassic said:

___THEU___ said:

prinmemo said:

Dirty Sprite said:

Looks like some pig cop bullshxt to me

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That's some really ignorant and ghetto mentality you people have there. 99% of cops arent crooked pieces of **** like the media brainwashes people into thinking. I know a few and they all just wanna do there job, not get in trouble, not get labeled a racist, and most importantly not get killed. I dont envy that job whatsoever.

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I just got pulled over by the nicest cops I've ever encountered, and they were still ********.

And I'm a white guy in my late twenties with a law degree.

Lots of mouth breathers with GEDs and badges running around with their palms itching at their hips. Not all, certainly you're right about that. But lots.

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Only thing lower is a pompous lawyer

ScubaCane said:

CaneClassic said:

___THEU___ said:

prinmemo said:

Dirty Sprite said:

Looks like some pig cop bullshxt to me

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That's some really ignorant and ghetto mentality you people have there. 99% of cops arent crooked pieces of **** like the media brainwashes people into thinking. I know a few and they all just wanna do there job, not get in trouble, not get labeled a racist, and most importantly not get killed. I dont envy that job whatsoever.

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I just got pulled over by the nicest cops I've ever encountered, and they were still ********.

And I'm a white guy in my late twenties with a law degree.

Lots of mouth breathers with GEDs and badges running around with their palms itching at their hips. Not all, certainly you're right about that. But lots.

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Only thing lower is a pompous lawyer

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...I've never met a police officer with a GED....

Zbrod95 said:

ScubaCane said:

CaneClassic said:

___THEU___ said:

prinmemo said:

This

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That's some really ignorant and ghetto mentality you people have there. 99% of cops arent crooked pieces of **** like the media brainwashes people into thinking. I know a few and they all just wanna do there job, not get in trouble, not get labeled a racist, and most importantly not get killed. I dont envy that job whatsoever.

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I just got pulled over by the nicest cops I've ever encountered, and they were still ********.

And I'm a white guy in my late twenties with a law degree.

Lots of mouth breathers with GEDs and badges running around with their palms itching at their hips. Not all, certainly you're right about that. But lots.

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Only thing lower is a pompous lawyer

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...I've never met a police officer with a GED....

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the plural of anecdote is not data.

Foreman said:

Zbrod95 said:

ScubaCane said:

CaneClassic said:

___THEU___ said:

That's some really ignorant and ghetto mentality you people have there. 99% of cops arent crooked pieces of **** like the media brainwashes people into thinking. I know a few and they all just wanna do there job, not get in trouble, not get labeled a racist, and most importantly not get killed. I dont envy that job whatsoever.

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I just got pulled over by the nicest cops I've ever encountered, and they were still ********.

And I'm a white guy in my late twenties with a law degree.

Lots of mouth breathers with GEDs and badges running around with their palms itching at their hips. Not all, certainly you're right about that. But lots.

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Only thing lower is a pompous lawyer

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...I've never met a police officer with a GED....

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the plural of anecdote is not data.

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I went to medic school at palm beach state and did my ride alongs there, was a firefighter explorer in Coral Springs, Florida, and work for AMR in the palm beach/Martin county area. I know or had conversations with probably 90% of the cops in Martin county, PBSO, and Coral Springs( I went to high school with some of them ) and I've never met one with a GED. Maybe your "anecdote is not data"

Charges dropped. Basically info on arrest form ( A-Form) didn't justify the charges. So does seem like the cops just didn’t like the fact that some black kids didn't immediately respond to their commands.

Zbrod95 said:

Foreman said:

Zbrod95 said:

ScubaCane said:

CaneClassic said:

I just got pulled over by the nicest cops I've ever encountered, and they were still ********.

And I'm a white guy in my late twenties with a law degree.

Lots of mouth breathers with GEDs and badges running around with their palms itching at their hips. Not all, certainly you're right about that. But lots.

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Only thing lower is a pompous lawyer

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...I've never met a police officer with a GED....

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the plural of anecdote is not data.

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I went to medic school at palm beach state and did my ride alongs there, was a firefighter explorer in Coral Springs, Florida, and work for AMR in the palm beach/Martin county area?? I know probably 90% of the cops in Martin county, PBSO, and Coral Springs( I went to high school with some of them ) and I've never met one with a GED. Maybe your "anecdote is not data"

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You're just giving me more anecdotes. I have no dog in this fight, you might be right for all I know. I'm not the one trying to prove something. The evidence you're supplying is just not enough, even if all the cops were telling you the truth about their educational backgrounds (I also have a hard time believing that you decided to ask a bunch of cops, one after another, if they had a GED or a regular high school diploma).

In college I used to work at a hotel where every ****tail waitress had a bachelor's degree. I'm going to use your logic and declare that every ****tail waitress everywhere is a college graduate. No need to fact check because I've personally never met a ****tail waitress without a degree.

Moro said:

HurricaneAce07 said:

Doesn't look serious, but it all depends on why they were resisting and what they were doing at the time of the events. For those that want to know...

Under Florida Statute 843.02, the crime of Resisting Officer without Violence is committed when a person knowingly and willfuly resists, obstructs, or opposes a law enforcement officer engaged in the execution of legal process, or lawful execution of a legal duty.

The crime of Resisting an Officer without Violence is classified as a First Degree Misdemeanor in Florida.
If convicted of Resisting Officer without Violence, a judge can impose any of the following penalties:
A maximum sentence of one (1) year in jail, and
A minimum sentence of probation or a fine.

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You can also be charge with Resisting an Officer without Violence by cursing and or using aggressive language directed at an officer. This gets a lot of people in cuffs. Some people think that they are protected under the 1st Amendment "Freedom of Speech" and they can say anything they want to the police but the 1st Amendment does not cover this language in terms of engaging law enforcement and government officials.

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Yes the correct right to invoke is to remain silent.

Foreman said:

Zbrod95 said:

Foreman said:

Zbrod95 said:

ScubaCane said:

Only thing lower is a pompous lawyer

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...I've never met a police officer with a GED....

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the plural of anecdote is not data.

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I went to medic school at palm beach state and did my ride alongs there, was a firefighter explorer in Coral Springs, Florida, and work for AMR in the palm beach/Martin county area?? I know probably 90% of the cops in Martin county, PBSO, and Coral Springs( I went to high school with some of them ) and I've never met one with a GED. Maybe your "anecdote is not data"

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You're just giving me more anecdotes. I have no dog in this fight, you might be right for all I know. I'm not the one trying to prove something. The evidence you're supplying is just not enough, even if all the cops were telling you the truth about their educational backgrounds (I also have a hard time believing that you decided to ask a bunch of cops, one after another, if they had a GED or a regular high school diploma).

In college I used to work at a hotel where every ****tail waitress had a bachelor's degree. I'm going to use your logic and declare that every ****tail waitress everywhere is a college graduate. No need to fact check because I've personally never met a ****tail waitress without a degree.

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because if you don't have a a diploma and a college degree it's literally impossible to become a police officer or a firefighter in the state of Florida...ask anyone how's ever applied...just having a GED and your certificates puts you at the bottom of the hiring totem poll. I don't need to ask them, I already know

Republicane said:

Cane Fan 4 Life said:

Republicane said:

Cane Fan 4 Life said:

It's so easy NOT to get arrested. SMH at today's youth.

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The US having more of its citizens in jails proportionally than any other country on the planet would seem to contradict that assertion.

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It does not contradict anything. People breaking various laws get arrested. People who choose to disobey and not comply with law enforcement get arrested.

It's easy NOT to get arrested, but most lack that common sense that isn't so common.

If an officer tells you to get on the sidewalk so you don't get hit by car, you should probably get on the sidewalk.

In the grand scheme, is this a petty arrest? Absolutely!

Could it have been avoided if our players listened to the officer?

Absolutely!

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Cops arrest people. The court system determines if they are guilty of breaking any laws. To hear you tell it, if the cops kicked your door in right now and slapped cuffs on you, you wouldn't say a word and just go to jail because, "I'm in cuffs so I must have broken the law!"

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Like the Johnny Cochran character asked his kids in the OJ tv show.... "Who talks to the cops kids?" and they answer correctly "our lawyer".