The Bank (scrimmage edition)

DMoney
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Wr’s couldn’t get open and the Te’s had a quiet day. That’s something to keep an eye on imo. I would’ve hoped Gattis had some plays for them if the Wr position was disappointing. If Will or Arroyo is being blanketed by Flagg and Steed we’re fucced
Man those are a lot of conclusions from hardly any facts.
 
Good job @DMoney !
Pretty close to the write-up I was thinking about making, almost verbatim. You did a much better job of watching the front-7 than I did though.




Per T-Rob, I heard the same stuff.
To be fair though, he could've simply been teaching what Manny wanted him to. It's already been confirmed multiple times within the building that Manny had no clue how to run a defense. I also heard T-Rob and Manny got into an altercation about it, so I can't really strike T-Rob too much for our DB's technique. (that could've been on Manny)

I'm just glad that we have a real defensive staff now. The DB play is light years better. So is the tackling.
You can teach tackling until you're blue in the face, but it still comes down to one major thing - GETTING MORE HATS TO THE BALL.
Less one-on-one tackling situations = less misses.
That was Manny's biggest issue with his scheme. When you leave zones/receivers open, allowing easy catches, then you're asking defenders to close full speed and make open field tackles on ball carriers. Steele's scheme is more press, less spot-dropping, better eye disciplines, etc...thus you have more hats on ball carriers/receivers.
Mostly everything the offense does is contested.
The DB play on the outside is very stingy. Most of the positive offensive plays I saw Saturday came from the inside. (truth be told, usually from X routing up people)

One staff member seems to think that they have a long way to go. I told'em I've been around GreenTree a long time and we already look better than anything I've seen in recent years. LOL
From a tempo and organization standpoint definitely. Tackling, intensity, work ethic, scheme, technique, etc...are all much improved as well.
But you have to love his line of thinking anyway.

And I'm not sugar coating this - X was out there killin' people.
He forced a PI on one play. Then on the very next play they go to him again, and he makes a big catch. He was pretty much unguardable.
When TVD really needs a completion, that's where he's going. I expect him to have a huge year.
Anybody who thinks Brashard Smith takes his spot is either Dade County biased, racially biased, or smokin' good dope. (maybe even all 3 lol)
He's up to 205lbs, so he's a RB playing WR. I'd like to see him drop about 10lbs though. He's massive, and there's no reason to be that heavy at slot. I don't want him to lose any quickness. That's his main advantage.

Rooster is 190lbs on the dot. Said he loves Coach Smith and Gattis.
Smith is extremely detailed in his teaching and has been working on Rooster with his patience, how to set-up rooms, etc.
Rooster talked about how tough our defense is right now, and I've heard X elude to this as well.
Like I said, **** is being contested now and our defense isn't Swiss cheese. You have to earn your yards and catches versus this group.

I spoke about this during last year's off-season and people on this board thought I was trippin'.
When our offense was giving Manny's defense **** in practice, I referenced all the QB's high completion percentages, even our back-ups.
I got told that I was overreacting and it's "just practice".
My argument was that, if our defense is giving up easy completions in practice, then our offense wouldn't be prepared for a defense that contests things.
Welp, fast forward and we saw how that turned out during the season. (Macho was right, as usual)
Our current defense is doing a good job of preparing our offense for the season. It's finally a REAL competition out there on GreenTree.
Defense is nowhere near where they want to be yet, but as they add talent you can rest assure that our offense probably won't see tougher defenses during the year.

We definitely need an infusion of talent at certain spots but I'm pleased with the overall product on the field.
Rome wasn't built in a day, but we're definitely on our way to being elite. I have no doubt about that. And I never felt that way with the previous products I've seen on GreenTree.
Bro, I'm not used to you speaking highly of our defense or defensive coaches, LOL! Such a relief to hear positive things about the coaching staff. What spots are we weak in your opinion?
 
Man those are a lot of conclusions from hardly any facts.
No conclusions, just shi to keep an eye out for. It was the first scrimmage, it’s possible the plays were called in a way to try to force a Wr to step up. That would explain the Te.
 
This feels like 2016 Miami or 2018 Oregon to me. Established QB, holes that need to be filled in recruiting.

We will be better but I look for the big leap in Year 2.
Gonna be annoying if USC lying to beat us for Addison ends up being the difference in Miami having enough on offense to contend.
 
I’ve heard a few times from inside the building that T-Rob wasn’t as good a coach as billed.

I have a hard time believing that, since the minute he put his name in the hat, he ended up at Bama under Sabag and is back to reeling in 5* kids.

I now wonder if there really is some truth to this, since post Robinson, the DB’s are really stepping up.

Any thoughts here @DMoney?
Trob is a **** coach. He's an elite recruiter (when he has bags behind him) he's proven he's basic as a coach & he's hard for kids of this era. He's abusive essentially.
 
Sounds like Romello is our best talent as a X, I’m interested in his development through out camp, I’m also interested in the progress of the wr from clemson. The oline sounds solid, especially when Zion gets back. The defense seems good as a whole, definitely out best athletes on that side of the ball, Chase Smith is very intriguing in this defense in this day and age with it being pass happy, his athleticism and speed at outside backer is insane, I’m excited about Gil I think he’s gone make a lot of plays…all in all I like the progress of the team
 
Wr’s couldn’t get open and the Te’s had a quiet day. That’s something to keep an eye on imo. I would’ve hoped Gattis had some plays for them if the Wr position was disappointing. If Will or Arroyo is being blanketed by Flagg and Steed we’re fucced
I'm assuming you weren't there. If you were you would've known will missed basically the entire scrimmage after the first couple drives. Wrs weren't struggling per se to get open. We were trying to establish intermediate routes and defense knows that. The purpose in establishing intermediate routes is obviously the staff realizes what we need to work on as well hence why we aren't stretching the field so heavily right now either. We're working on our weaknesses. It's what practice is for.
 
I'm assuming you weren't there. If you were you would've known will missed basically the entire scrimmage after the first couple drives. Wrs weren't struggling per se to get open. We were trying to establish intermediate routes and defense knows that. The purpose in establishing intermediate routes is obviously the staff realizes what we need to work on as well hence why we aren't stretching the field so heavily right now either. We're working on our weaknesses. It's what practice is for.
Yea, but you're letting facts get in the way of the good CIS story. Shame on you, lol.
 
Macho or dmoney
Was Mesidor mainly playing inside or at an end spot?
Did you see much 3-4?
What do you guess the % of snaps Kam and the Williams brothers were on the field at the same time?

Love hearing about our dline, as that's where it all starts. We are a legit 10 deep there, and they're big, strong, and nasty!!!!! They will come at teams in droves, keeping everybody fresh. They will set the tone!!
 
Good job @DMoney !
Pretty close to the write-up I was thinking about making, almost verbatim. You did a much better job of watching the front-7 than I did though.




Per T-Rob, I heard the same stuff.
To be fair though, he could've simply been teaching what Manny wanted him to. It's already been confirmed multiple times within the building that Manny had no clue how to run a defense. I also heard T-Rob and Manny got into an altercation about it, so I can't really strike T-Rob too much for our DB's technique. (that could've been on Manny)

I'm just glad that we have a real defensive staff now. The DB play is light years better. So is the tackling.
You can teach tackling until you're blue in the face, but it still comes down to one major thing - GETTING MORE HATS TO THE BALL.
Less one-on-one tackling situations = less misses.
That was Manny's biggest issue with his scheme. When you leave zones/receivers open, allowing easy catches, then you're asking defenders to close full speed and make open field tackles on ball carriers. Steele's scheme is more press, less spot-dropping, better eye disciplines, etc...thus you have more hats on ball carriers/receivers.
Mostly everything the offense does is contested.
The DB play on the outside is very stingy. Most of the positive offensive plays I saw Saturday came from the inside. (truth be told, usually from X routing up people)

One staff member seems to think that they have a long way to go. I told'em I've been around GreenTree a long time and we already look better than anything I've seen in recent years. LOL
From a tempo and organization standpoint definitely. Tackling, intensity, work ethic, scheme, technique, etc...are all much improved as well.
But you have to love his line of thinking anyway.

And I'm not sugar coating this - X was out there killin' people.
He forced a PI on one play. Then on the very next play they go to him again, and he makes a big catch. He was pretty much unguardable.
When TVD really needs a completion, that's where he's going. I expect him to have a huge year.
Anybody who thinks Brashard Smith takes his spot is either Dade County biased, racially biased, or smokin' good dope. (maybe even all 3 lol)
He's up to 205lbs, so he's a RB playing WR. I'd like to see him drop about 10lbs though. He's massive, and there's no reason to be that heavy at slot. I don't want him to lose any quickness. That's his main advantage.

Rooster is 190lbs on the dot. Said he loves Coach Smith and Gattis.
Smith is extremely detailed in his teaching and has been working on Rooster with his patience, how to set-up rooms, etc.
Rooster talked about how tough our defense is right now, and I've heard X elude to this as well.
Like I said, **** is being contested now and our defense isn't Swiss cheese. You have to earn your yards and catches versus this group.

I spoke about this during last year's off-season and people on this board thought I was trippin'.
When our offense was giving Manny's defense **** in practice, I referenced all the QB's high completion percentages, even our back-ups.
I got told that I was overreacting and it's "just practice".
My argument was that, if our defense is giving up easy completions in practice, then our offense wouldn't be prepared for a defense that contests things.
Welp, fast forward and we saw how that turned out during the season. (Macho was right, as usual)
Our current defense is doing a good job of preparing our offense for the season. It's finally a REAL competition out there on GreenTree.
Defense is nowhere near where they want to be yet, but as they add talent you can rest assure that our offense probably won't see tougher defenses during the year.

We definitely need an infusion of talent at certain spots but I'm pleased with the overall product on the field.
Rome wasn't built in a day, but we're definitely on our way to being elite. I have no doubt about that. And I never felt that way with the previous products I've seen on GreenTree.
Coach M does this remind you of the old Gree tree practices of years ago............
Mark Wahlberg Television GIF
 
Good job @DMoney !
Pretty close to the write-up I was thinking about making, almost verbatim. You did a much better job of watching the front-7 than I did though.




Per T-Rob, I heard the same stuff.
To be fair though, he could've simply been teaching what Manny wanted him to. It's already been confirmed multiple times within the building that Manny had no clue how to run a defense. I also heard T-Rob and Manny got into an altercation about it, so I can't really strike T-Rob too much for our DB's technique. (that could've been on Manny)

I'm just glad that we have a real defensive staff now. The DB play is light years better. So is the tackling.
You can teach tackling until you're blue in the face, but it still comes down to one major thing - GETTING MORE HATS TO THE BALL.
Less one-on-one tackling situations = less misses.
That was Manny's biggest issue with his scheme. When you leave zones/receivers open, allowing easy catches, then you're asking defenders to close full speed and make open field tackles on ball carriers. Steele's scheme is more press, less spot-dropping, better eye disciplines, etc...thus you have more hats on ball carriers/receivers.
Mostly everything the offense does is contested.
The DB play on the outside is very stingy. Most of the positive offensive plays I saw Saturday came from the inside. (truth be told, usually from X routing up people)

One staff member seems to think that they have a long way to go. I told'em I've been around GreenTree a long time and we already look better than anything I've seen in recent years. LOL
From a tempo and organization standpoint definitely. Tackling, intensity, work ethic, scheme, technique, etc...are all much improved as well.
But you have to love his line of thinking anyway.

And I'm not sugar coating this - X was out there killin' people.
He forced a PI on one play. Then on the very next play they go to him again, and he makes a big catch. He was pretty much unguardable.
When TVD really needs a completion, that's where he's going. I expect him to have a huge year.
Anybody who thinks Brashard Smith takes his spot is either Dade County biased, racially biased, or smokin' good dope. (maybe even all 3 lol)
He's up to 205lbs, so he's a RB playing WR. I'd like to see him drop about 10lbs though. He's massive, and there's no reason to be that heavy at slot. I don't want him to lose any quickness. That's his main advantage.

Rooster is 190lbs on the dot. Said he loves Coach Smith and Gattis.
Smith is extremely detailed in his teaching and has been working on Rooster with his patience, how to set-up rooms, etc.
Rooster talked about how tough our defense is right now, and I've heard X elude to this as well.
Like I said, **** is being contested now and our defense isn't Swiss cheese. You have to earn your yards and catches versus this group.

I spoke about this during last year's off-season and people on this board thought I was trippin'.
When our offense was giving Manny's defense **** in practice, I referenced all the QB's high completion percentages, even our back-ups.
I got told that I was overreacting and it's "just practice".
My argument was that, if our defense is giving up easy completions in practice, then our offense wouldn't be prepared for a defense that contests things.
Welp, fast forward and we saw how that turned out during the season. (Macho was right, as usual)
Our current defense is doing a good job of preparing our offense for the season. It's finally a REAL competition out there on GreenTree.
Defense is nowhere near where they want to be yet, but as they add talent you can rest assure that our offense probably won't see tougher defenses during the year.

We definitely need an infusion of talent at certain spots but I'm pleased with the overall product on the field.
Rome wasn't built in a day, but we're definitely on our way to being elite. I have no doubt about that. And I never felt that way with the previous products I've seen on GreenTree.

This is why I pay the big bucks as a CIS private board subscriber. Just great info, @Coach Macho , Thank you.

Anything you write about Restrepo and Rooster is biased AF. But since even Mario is praising the Cuban Lightning Rod, I am buying what you're selling on X man. Sounds like he's about ready to be our first "nail" at the slot since Berrios went pro. ... Man, our receivers need to stop the drops. Just stop it!

We know we need more elite talent. But do you see any position groups still lacking enough "Top P5" talent to get us to parity with their couterparts at other Top 20 teams? Is it fari to say you're referring to LB and possibly OL? ... QB, S, TE, DL, RB all seem adequate at this point. WR isn't a talent issue IMHO, they're just underperforming.
 
That would be the smart play not reading into the 1st scrimmage too much. Give CJ some time to get adjusted since he hasn't been here too long. During the season Johnson will get plenty of playing time. At LB we are most likely to see a lot of Keontra Smith, Chase Smith, Caleb Johnson, Waynmon Steed, Corey Flagg and Wes Bissainthe with Thomas Davis also competing.

To be honest I would like to see.......

WLB. Wes Bissainthe/Keontra Smith
MLB. Caleb Johnson/ Corey Flagg
SLB. Chase Smith/ Waynmon Steed

at some point in the season although it's much more realistic to think that Steed will get the nod at Will to start the season. As much as I like the potential of Bissainthe and Chase Smith, @Rellyrell is right to be concerned. We have no idea what to expect from those 2 right now. Wes is a true freshman and Chase is a 3rd year player who up to this point has done nothing. I do think that over the course of the season that those two will find their niche but at the beginning, things could be a bit dicey. Malik Bryant, Raul Aguirre and Bobby Washington can't get here soon enough.
Chase is a true Soph
 
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