Spring Practice 4/3 - Early Portion Notes

Apr 3, 2018

**The QB rotation remained the same going into the third week of spring practice (Malik Rosier, N'Kosi Perry, Cade Weldon, Jarren Williams). An average day from the QB's today, but they also ramped up the difficulty of the routes a bit. The routes were: bubble screen, TE drag across the field, post across the field to the sidelines with weakside play-action rollout, and post to the back corner of the endzone.

**The QB's really struggled on the post to the back corner of the endzone route. Each got one shot at it and all of the QB's overthrew their intended targets. Pretty ugly. Williams looked the best today, but that isn't saying much. Weldon really sailed one and was way off the mark on a sideline post. On a bubble screen, Rosier threw at the shoelaces of Michael Irvin II and he couldn't come up with it. Then, on a TE drag route, Perry threw one nowhere near Brian Polendey.

**Tight ends were good today, with the only drop coming from Polendey on a pass from Perry right between his numbers.

**Navaughn Donaldson was back working with the first team line after previously being demoted to second team for Saturday's practice. Whatever message the coaches were trying to send to Donaldson, it has been delivered. Hayden Mahoney was back with the second team. The rest of the depth chart remained the same here.

**The RB's got an extended (compared to what we've previously seen) run in practice today. They ran RB draw and RB pitch with the QB's out of the shotgun and the rotation remained the same as it has been (Travis Homer, Deejay Dallas, Lorenzo Lingard, Robert Burns, Crispian Atkins). Burns has bulked up, but is still maintaining his quickness and running well. Even though I previously speculated he may be bulking up for fullback, he's still working with the RB's and, most importantly, is still healthy. The one absent from the RB rotation and working with the fullbacks was actually Trayone Gray.

**The defense was broken up doing individual drills, so nothing to get a read on depth chart-wise. Ditto for receivers.

**Miami legends Gino Torretta and Don Bailey Jr. were out on Greentree and on hand to catch practice this morning.

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The Sphinx

Apr 4, 2018

ThomasM said:
With Rosier it doesn't matter if he knows the playbook, as he can't execute what he knows. Also, was it just me or did the O look like it was simplified for Rosier the first several games? Now, if we can do that for Rosier, why not for a MUCH more talented QB?

Richt can do that, but you know **** well that many on this site will be *****ing about how predictable and vanilla our offense is.

We instead of simplifying the offense, why not tailor the schemes for the starter - whoever that might be? We will not have an elite QB under center next year, and that’s fine. Let’s make sure that the system is compatible with the strengths of the starter.

TheEye

Apr 4, 2018

At least we have running backs! Oh $#!T! RUN THE #*cking BALL!!!

ThomasM

Apr 4, 2018

The Sphinx said:
Richt can do that, but you know **** well that many on this site will be *****ing about how predictable and vanilla our offense is.

We instead of simplifying the offense, why not tailor the schemes for the starter - whoever that might be? We will not have an elite QB under center next year, and that’s fine. Let’s make sure that the system is compatible with the strengths of the starter.

Well, Rosier's strengths are so limited and weaknesses so many, it makes it darn near impossible for him to use his strengths.

Loose Cannon

Apr 4, 2018

jjm305 said:
Dorsey wasn't fighting for a starting position. Just saying he could of been coasting

If you think Dorsey was coasting, you need to leave. Dorsey was the guy busting asses when guys failed to show up 15 minutes early.

Loose Cannon

Apr 4, 2018

Canezum5 said:
whether it be a post or a post corner. you can run the route to the back end of the endzone.

How can you not is the real question.

WTF are you talkin about?

Back in my day we called it a post because you ran it toward the goal post, and we called it a flag because you ran it towards the pylon(flag). For some reason, though, a route that fakes to the post and turns to the pylon was still called a post corner rather than a post flag.

Loose Cannon

Apr 4, 2018

404CANES said:
Yeah a lot has changed since leather helmets. A post can continue all the way across the field if not broken off

A post that continues across the field is a cross or slant.

JgDaCane

Apr 4, 2018

Rosier starts this year then Williams starts after.

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404CANES

Apr 4, 2018

No_Fly_Zone said:
Not that I ran many of them, but my simple recollection is that a "flag" and a "corner" route are the same route. A corner/flag route is basically a deep route with a diagonal cut towards the sideline (or the corner of the endzone, hence "corner"). A post is a deep route with an inside diagonal cut (towards the goal post, hence "post"). There are variations, stems, and double move routes (like a post corner), but generally a post is towards the middle of the field and a flag/corner is run towards the sideline. But I guess if you are far enough from the endzone, on a long enough play, a post route might take a WR towards the opposite sideline...

Fro

Loose Cannon said:
A post that continues across the field is a cross or slant.

You dont run a slant 20-25 yds downfield and you don't put air under a crossing route in relevance to the video submitted to the board...your turn

Canezum5

Apr 4, 2018

Loose Cannon said:
Back in my day we called it a post because you ran it toward the goal post, and we called it a flag because you ran it towards the pylon(flag). For some reason, though, a route that fakes to the post and turns to the pylon was still called a post corner rather than a post flag.

All my years of football, it has always been a Post, a corner or a post-corner.

Canezum5

Apr 4, 2018

TrueFloridian said:
There’s absolutely zero chance they were running post corner routes with these TE’s. Maybe with Mallory and Jordan. Nonetheless, the OP said a post to the corner. I highly doubt that was happening either. When have you ever seen this team run a post to the corner? They run fades all the time. The OP miscalled the routes... I’m certain.

Its on video man. what the fuq are you talking about? All the Te's were clearly running Posts and corners.

OP didn't miscall shid. You have no clue what variation of routes we run or how Richt will cater his offense to his personnel. You are typing out of your ***. Herndon and Njoku ran plenty of Deep and intermediate routes, posts included.

Loose Cannon

Apr 4, 2018

404CANES said:
Fro

You dont run a slant 20-25 yds downfield and you don't put air under a crossing route in relevance to the video submitted to the board...your turn

Why would you assume that you can continue a post route to the opposite corner, but cannot continue a slant route down field? Not all slants are quick slants.

Besides, you're missing the point. A post route is called a post route because it's ran towards the goalpost. If a post is run 20-25 yards down field it's usually called a deep or skinny post. A post route that takes you across the center line of the field is a slant. I only played receiver in HS, but I've ran quick slants, 5 yard, 10 yard, and 15 yard slants.

ThomasM

Apr 4, 2018

JgDaCane said:
Rosier starts this year then Williams starts after.

Rosier might start this year, but I think Williams takes the job as soon as he's ready, and Richt just has enough.

Loose Cannon

Apr 4, 2018

Canezum5 said:
All my years of football, it has always been a Post, a corner or a post-corner.

"Longer corner routes such as the flag route aim for large gains or the end zone, and are usually more effective when receiver is in isolated coverage, with the defensive back playing inside.

The corner route is often discussed or paired with the post route, which mirrors the corner but heads toward the center of the field rather than toward the sideline. Because the initial vertical dash of both routes are basically the same, wide receivers running corners can fake running the post, when in actuality they are planning to turn toward the corner. The corner and post routes will often both be used in the same play, in an effort to split the defense, and the post-corner route combines both post and corner movements in its execution.

Also sometimes referred to as the “flag corner.”"

https://www.sportingcharts.com/dictionary/nfl/flag-route.aspx

TrueFloridian

Apr 4, 2018

Williams wasn’t very accurate in the AA game. He underthrew Pope on fly routes and overthrew the medium routes. His arm is plenty strong but he threw high. It’s still better than watching Sits throw 5 yards behind the wr on simple crosses.
I’m re

Canezum5 said:
Its on video man. what the fuq are you talking about? All the Te's were clearly running Posts and corners.

OP didn't miscall shid. You have no clue what variation of routes we run or how Richt will cater his offense to his personnel. You are typing out of your ***. Herndon and Njoku ran plenty of Deep and intermediate routes, posts included.

Why don’t you let the OP speak if he’s correct. And no, they aren’t running posts on the video.
Please copy ONE time a TE ran a post corner. I go to every game and it’s NEVER happened. You’re 100% wrong. A post corner is a TE running a post to the middle of the field then making a move such as a head shake, then angling the opposite direction to the corner. That has never happenned. Prove me wrong.

And stop trying to cover up your false argument saying they run intermediate routes. That’s not the discussion and is irrelevant. Lol at you trying to make up excuses for the OP.

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404CANES

Apr 4, 2018

Loose Cannon said:
Why would you assume that you can continue a post route to the opposite corner, but cannot continue a slant route down field? Not all slants are quick slants.

Besides, you're missing the point. A post route is called a post route because it's ran towards the goalpost. If a post is run 20-25 yards down field it's usually called a deep or skinny post. A post route that takes you across the center line of the field is a slant. I only played receiver in HS, but I've ran quick slants, 5 yard, 10 yard, and 15 yard slants.

Dude the TEs were lined up in the formation on the same side they threw to. No crossing the center of anything. Now who runs a slant to the outside 15-20 yds downfield

Loose Cannon

Apr 4, 2018

404CANES said:
Fro

You dont run a slant 20-25 yds downfield and you don't put air under a crossing route in relevance to the video submitted to the board...your turn

"The post route (so named because the receiver’s target should be his side of the goalpost ends) is designed to break up coverage in the middle of the field and is most effective against defenses that only use one or two deep safeties. Because it attacks the middle of the field, it can pose problems for a defense as they decide where to commit their defense.

Post routes require speedy and athletic receivers who are prepared to make catches through traffic and who can adjust if the quarterback needs to throw over the top of a safety. It is often paired with the corner route or another post or fly route to maximize the chance of having an open receiver in a deep passing situation. Jab steps, fakes and good positioning by receivers is necessary to prevent defenders from getting inside on the route and disrupting the play.

A popular variant of the post, known as the “skinny” post, has the receiver running a shorter route with a steeper angle. This version of the route is best against a Cover 3 look, where the angle of the route helps the receiver to split the deep and mid-range safeties to make a reception."

https://www.sportingcharts.com/dictionary/nfl/post-route/

Loose Cannon

Apr 4, 2018

404CANES said:
Dude the TEs were lined up in the formation on the same side they threw to. No crossing the center of anything. Now who runs a slant to the outside 15-20 yds downfield

If you're lined up to the left and break to the left, that's a corner route. If you break towards the goalpost, that's a post. If you break across the middle of the field, it's a slant route.

Canezum5

Apr 4, 2018

TrueFloridian said:
Williams wasn’t very accurate in the AA game. He underthrew Pope on fly routes and overthrew the medium routes. His arm is plenty strong but he threw high. It’s still better than watching Sits throw 5 yards behind the wr on simple crosses.
I’m re

Why don’t you let the OP speak if he’s correct. And no, they aren’t running posts on the video.
Please copy ONE time a TE ran a post corner. I go to every game and it’s NEVER happened. You’re 100% wrong. A post corner is a TE running a post to the middle of the field then making a move such as a head shake, then angling the opposite direction to the corner. That has never happenned. Prove me wrong.

And stop trying to cover up your false argument saying they run intermediate routes. That’s not the discussion and is irrelevant. Lol at you trying to make up excuses for the OP.

How tf are you going to say that this isn't a corner? at the :40 sec mark?

you don't know shid about football. I don't care if you go to the games. how does that prove you know what you're looking at?

The catch Herndon made against UNC last year to break the game open was a deep post. So don't tell me we don't run them

If you know that we have two athletic TE's coming to bolster the group then you should also know that Richt is going to tweak his playbook and route combinations to that athleticism. So its smart to get ALL of the players acclimated to the routes and throws.

Again, you have no idea how Richt will tweak his offense to his personnel so don't act like you know exactly what the coach is thinking because his history of coaching comes with a plethora of different styles and schematics.

Quit while you're ahead. You don't know enough to argue with me.

You're googling what a corner route is before you reply. Sit the fuq down and read.

Loose Cannon

Apr 4, 2018

Canezum5 said:
How tf are you going to say that this isn't a corner? at the :40 sec mark?

you don't know shid about football. I don't care if you go to the games. how does that prove you know what you're looking at?

The catch Herndon made against UNC last year to break the game open was a deep post. So don't tell me we don't run them

If you know that we have two athletic TE's coming to bolster the group then you should also know that Richt is going to tweak his playbook and route combinations to that athleticism. So its smart to get ALL of the players acclimated to the routes and throws.

Again, you have no idea how Richt will tweak his offense to his personnel so don't act like you know exactly what the coach is thinking because his history of coaching comes with a plethora of different styles and schematics.

Quit while you're ahead. You don't know enough to argue with me.

You're googling what a corner route is before you reply. Sit the fuq down and read.

He didn't say they weren't running corner routes. He said they were not running post routes, which they are not. He also said TE's typically dont run POST-Corner routes because they are slower developing and require more speed than the typical TE possesses.

Canezum5

Apr 4, 2018

Loose Cannon said:
He didn't say they weren't running corner routes. He said they were not running post routes, which they are not. He also said TE's typically dont run POST-Corner routes because they are slower developing and require more speed than the typical TE possesses.

Loose, come on bro. ****, can I argue with him separately ? Im already in a separate debate with you.

Sheesh.

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Spring Practice 4/3 - Early Portion Notes

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