Recruiting Update 7-9

Jul 9, 2012

-Defensive End Tim Williams from Baton Rouge is the top player in the state of Louisiana and has legitimate Miami interest. According to a source, Williams likes Miami along with LSU and Alabama at the top. LSU is becoming short on spots at end and are currently feeling good about their position with Torrodney Prevot from Texas. Miami’s chances with Williams falls almost directly on what happens with Prevot. If Prevot commits soon, LSU may be out of spots and would not take Williams’ commitment in all likelihood. Alabama is in a similar situation with limited spots as well, so things could be shaping up nicely for Miami. He is planning to visit Coral Gables for Rising Senior Day in August. A source also says that his high school coach is pro-Miami, which is also a positive.

-DB Rashard Robinson from Ely was recently offered after performing well at the last Al Golden Football Camp. LSU is in great position and the Tigers are expecting him to commit soon. It was going to be tough for Miami to have a good chance since they offered so late anyways. The DB recruiting will revolve around Jamal Carter, Artie Burns, Vernon Hargreaves, and Mackensie Alexander.

-2014 OL commit Trevor Darling is an extremely solid commit right one, but a source says that FSU is coming after him very hard and Alabama as well. Darling is a die-hard Canes fan, but this source tells me that possible sanctions may concern him. I fully expect him to stay committed throughout the next year and a half, but this is just something to keep an eye on.

-Southridge safety Jamal Carter is expected to be committing soon, possibly within the next month. The one caution that Canes fans should have is possible grades concerns. He needs to re-take the ACT to get a qualifying score and there are some transcript questions. The staff has laid out a plan for him to be able to qualify in time. This will be a situation where the staff is just going to have to cross their fingers and hope that Carter puts in the proper work.

Click to expand...

Facebook X (Twitter) Reddit WhatsApp Email Link

Comments (73)

View article View as thread

moshated305

Jul 10, 2012

CaneLB said:
moshated305 said:

McDermott not Miami caliber? LOL That was a joke right? Kid will have offers from everyone and will be a top 100 player next year. He is already on 247's top 100. Darling is a beast as well but landed just outside the top 100. Both are studs and both will be Canes.

Click to expand...

So he's a stud because 247 says so? John Theus was a 5* on those sites too but a lot of people (myself included) thought he was extremely overrated. If you're gonna speak condescendingly towards me at least post your own analysis. McDermott is top-heavy, bends at the waist, lacks flexibility and quickness, and he plays OG in HS. That's not a Miami caliber OL to me. Yes he's only a Soph, he's big, and he's the brother of a Cane who has great intangibles, but his highlight film is average.

I'm just sharing my opinion though. My only wish is that people like you evaluate for yourselves and stop reading those recruiting rankings uncritically.

Yes your opinion means more than the Miami coaches, as well as coaches at Notre Dame, Ohio State, Florida, Auburn, Michigan, Wisconsin, and others who have already offered him a scholarship. Maybe you should stop trying to play talent evaluator because it seems people who are paid to it think much differently than you do.

LuCane

Jul 10, 2012

CaneLB said:
moshated305 said:

McDermott not Miami caliber? LOL That was a joke right? Kid will have offers from everyone and will be a top 100 player next year. He is already on 247's top 100. Darling is a beast as well but landed just outside the top 100. Both are studs and both will be Canes.

Click to expand...

So he's a stud because 247 says so? John Theus was a 5* on those sites too but a lot of people (myself included) thought he was extremely overrated. If you're gonna speak condescendingly towards me at least post your own analysis. McDermott is top-heavy, bends at the waist, lacks flexibility and quickness, and he plays OG in HS. That's not a Miami caliber OL to me. Yes he's only a Soph, he's big, and he's the brother of a Cane who has great intangibles, but his highlight film is average.

I'm just sharing my opinion though. My only wish is that people like you evaluate for yourselves and stop reading those recruiting rankings uncritically.

Right or wrong, your opinion and approach are encouraged on this board. Thank you for inserting your analysis into the conversation.

LuCane

Jul 10, 2012

moshated305 said:
CaneLB said:

moshated305 said:

McDermott not Miami caliber? LOL That was a joke right? Kid will have offers from everyone and will be a top 100 player next year. He is already on 247's top 100. Darling is a beast as well but landed just outside the top 100. Both are studs and both will be Canes.

Click to expand...

So he's a stud because 247 says so? John Theus was a 5* on those sites too but a lot of people (myself included) thought he was extremely overrated. If you're gonna speak condescendingly towards me at least post your own analysis. McDermott is top-heavy, bends at the waist, lacks flexibility and quickness, and he plays OG in HS. That's not a Miami caliber OL to me. Yes he's only a Soph, he's big, and he's the brother of a Cane who has great intangibles, but his highlight film is average.

I'm just sharing my opinion though. My only wish is that people like you evaluate for yourselves and stop reading those recruiting rankings uncritically.

Click to expand...

Yes your opinion means more than the Miami coaches, as well as coaches at Notre Dame, Ohio State, Florida, Auburn, Michigan, Wisconsin, and others who have already offered him a scholarship. Maybe you should stop trying to play talent evaluator because it seems people who are paid to it think much differently than you do.

Mosh,

Please do not discourage thoughtful discussion on the board. CaneLB offered his perspective and his analysis based off his observations. If you disagree with them, rock and roll. Attack the analysis. However, simply deferring to the talent evaluators at respective colleges doesn't really do much for this message board. Thank you.

J
jw410

Jul 10, 2012

Film looks solid valid.. his pursuit instincts are off the charts. quick motor, and uses his hands .. pretty **** good for an 11th grader in HS.

C
canenation91

Jul 10, 2012

CaneLB said:
Tim Williams is close to must-get territory. Our next best option(s) after him aren't even close. If we lose out on him it won't be for a lack of effort.

Darling isn't 5* caliber imo but he's not far off either. He's definitely a national recruit caliber of talent. I don't feel the same way about KC McDermott right now - he doesn't look Miami caliber based on Soph film.

Robinson is all LSU but if something unforeseen happens FSU is in the waiting.

Every scout has the kid as a bona fide stud. It's fine if you watch film and think you have a professional opinion, but when you're completely wrong it's just embarrassing. You can say anyone has better film, but when evaluating high schoolers it isn't all about their technique, it's the ceiling that their physical ability can take them and at this point KC has better physical ability than Trevor. KC is a better prospect than Trevor. That's not saying Trevor is a bad prospect at all, but KC definitely has everything needed to be a five star.

-Attack the post not the poster-USNAVYCANE

Last edited: Jul 10, 2012

frostycane

Jul 10, 2012

How about, I really like them both because they are CANES!!!!!! I personally liked KC's film for a soph, I saw a good motor, a frame that can easily add weight oh and most importantly the kid is a CANE! Jeeze guys have we demoted to already tearing kids down that have not even put the uniform on? I mean I get it when we hammer on our guys after a bad game but these dudes are not even JR's in high school and you guys are tearing down their skill set! Really? SMH

frostycane

Jul 10, 2012

LuCane said:
CaneLB said:

moshated305 said:

McDermott not Miami caliber? LOL That was a joke right? Kid will have offers from everyone and will be a top 100 player next year. He is already on 247's top 100. Darling is a beast as well but landed just outside the top 100. Both are studs and both will be Canes.

Click to expand...

So he's a stud because 247 says so? John Theus was a 5* on those sites too but a lot of people (myself included) thought he was extremely overrated. If you're gonna speak condescendingly towards me at least post your own analysis. McDermott is top-heavy, bends at the waist, lacks flexibility and quickness, and he plays OG in HS. That's not a Miami caliber OL to me. Yes he's only a Soph, he's big, and he's the brother of a Cane who has great intangibles, but his highlight film is average.

I'm just sharing my opinion though. My only wish is that people like you evaluate for yourselves and stop reading those recruiting rankings uncritically.

Click to expand...

Right or wrong, your opinion and approach are encouraged on this board. Thank you for inserting your analysis into the conversation.

If this is true, I hope you did not ban DBC like every other site except scout. Dude is a clown but he brings opinion and scours the net for info and is a cane fan for sure. Might be a tool but a cane tool! lol

CaneLB

Jul 10, 2012

canenation91 said:
Every scout has the kid as a bona fide stud. It's fine if you watch film and think you have a professional opinion, but when you're completely wrong it's just embarrassing. You can say anyone has better film, but when evaluating high schoolers it isn't all about their technique, it's the ceiling that their physical ability can take them and at this point KC has better physical ability than Trevor. KC is a better prospect than Trevor. That's not saying Trevor is a bad prospect at all, but KC definitely has everything needed to be a five star.

-Attack the post not the poster-USNAVYCANE

So if you say something negative about a player that other people like you're automatically wrong and embarrassing yourself? I think you'd be surprised at how often people with "professional opinions" are wrong in their evaluations of high school prospects. Coaches and recruiting insiders aren't necessarily expert evaluators. I've never seen KC play in person and he hasn't started his Jr yet so I'm not gonna speak in certainties, but his HL film doesn't look Miami caliber to me.

I don't see what ceiling you're talking about. Darling has bad technique but he's big, athletic and strong. McDermott is top-heavy and lacks flexibility and quickness. You can see it in his highlights because instead of driving linemen off the ball he strikes and yanks them. Flexible linemen that have good balance don't do that. Those physical traits don't change.

Ethnicsands

Jul 10, 2012

CaneLB said:
canenation91 said:

Every scout has the kid as a bona fide stud. It's fine if you watch film and think you have a professional opinion, but when you're completely wrong it's just embarrassing. You can say anyone has better film, but when evaluating high schoolers it isn't all about their technique, it's the ceiling that their physical ability can take them and at this point KC has better physical ability than Trevor. KC is a better prospect than Trevor. That's not saying Trevor is a bad prospect at all, but KC definitely has everything needed to be a five star.

-Attack the post not the poster-USNAVYCANE

Click to expand...

So if you say something negative about a player that other people like you're automatically wrong and embarrassing yourself? I think you'd be surprised at how often people with "professional opinions" are wrong in their evaluations of high school prospects. Coaches and recruiting insiders aren't necessarily expert evaluators. I've never seen KC play in person and he hasn't started his Jr yet so I'm not gonna speak in certainties, but his HL film doesn't look Miami caliber to me.

I don't see what ceiling you're talking about. Darling has bad technique but he's big, athletic and strong. McDermott is top-heavy and lacks flexibility and quickness. You can see it in his highlights because instead of driving linemen off the ball he strikes and yanks them. Flexible linemen that have good balance don't do that. Those physical traits don't change.

Nice job defending your views here.

:ohlord:

@ all those giving you a hard time over it.

The kid's a sophmore. How he ends up ranked is anyone's guess. And none of the "offers" he has from big time programs will be there if those schools decide he isnt a great prospect between now and nsd two classes out.

JHallCanes

Jul 10, 2012

CaneLB said:
moshated305 said:

McDermott not Miami caliber? LOL That was a joke right? Kid will have offers from everyone and will be a top 100 player next year. He is already on 247's top 100. Darling is a beast as well but landed just outside the top 100. Both are studs and both will be Canes.

Click to expand...

So he's a stud because 247 says so? John Theus was a 5* on those sites too but a lot of people (myself included) thought he was extremely overrated. If you're gonna speak condescendingly towards me at least post your own analysis. McDermott is top-heavy, bends at the waist, lacks flexibility and quickness, and he plays OG in HS. That's not a Miami caliber OL to me. Yes he's only a Soph, he's big, and he's the brother of a Cane who has great intangibles, but his highlight film is average.

I'm just sharing my opinion though. My only wish is that people like you evaluate for yourselves and stop reading those recruiting rankings uncritically.

Thanks for your input here man, it's appreciated.

I go back to my point about both of them standing out when matched up during the camps. It's not about rankings at this point (remember Todd Chandler being a 5 star initially? Chick being a 3? and a thousand other examples....)

It's pretty tough when you are talking about OLinemen so it will be interesting to see how these two young guys progress. There will certainly be plenty of eyes on them.

B
bobbo31

Jul 10, 2012

CaneLB said:
canenation91 said:

Every scout has the kid as a bona fide stud. It's fine if you watch film and think you have a professional opinion, but when you're completely wrong it's just embarrassing. You can say anyone has better film, but when evaluating high schoolers it isn't all about their technique, it's the ceiling that their physical ability can take them and at this point KC has better physical ability than Trevor. KC is a better prospect than Trevor. That's not saying Trevor is a bad prospect at all, but KC definitely has everything needed to be a five star.

-Attack the post not the poster-USNAVYCANE

Click to expand...

So if you say something negative about a player that other people like you're automatically wrong and embarrassing yourself? I think you'd be surprised at how often people with "professional opinions" are wrong in their evaluations of high school prospects. Coaches and recruiting insiders aren't necessarily expert evaluators. I've never seen KC play in person and he hasn't started his Jr yet so I'm not gonna speak in certainties, but his HL film doesn't look Miami caliber to me.

I don't see what ceiling you're talking about. Darling has bad technique but he's big, athletic and strong. McDermott is top-heavy and lacks flexibility and quickness. You can see it in his highlights because instead of driving linemen off the ball he strikes and yanks them. Flexible linemen that have good balance don't do that. Those physical traits don't change.

CaneLB, After watching his HL tape I agree with a lot of the things you said. But he has been very, very impressive in any summer camp films I have seen. Lu, what is your opinion of KC?

LuCane

Jul 10, 2012

bobbo31 said:
CaneLB said:

canenation91 said:

Every scout has the kid as a bona fide stud. It's fine if you watch film and think you have a professional opinion, but when you're completely wrong it's just embarrassing. You can say anyone has better film, but when evaluating high schoolers it isn't all about their technique, it's the ceiling that their physical ability can take them and at this point KC has better physical ability than Trevor. KC is a better prospect than Trevor. That's not saying Trevor is a bad prospect at all, but KC definitely has everything needed to be a five star.

-Attack the post not the poster-USNAVYCANE

Click to expand...

So if you say something negative about a player that other people like you're automatically wrong and embarrassing yourself? I think you'd be surprised at how often people with "professional opinions" are wrong in their evaluations of high school prospects. Coaches and recruiting insiders aren't necessarily expert evaluators. I've never seen KC play in person and he hasn't started his Jr yet so I'm not gonna speak in certainties, but his HL film doesn't look Miami caliber to me.

I don't see what ceiling you're talking about. Darling has bad technique but he's big, athletic and strong. McDermott is top-heavy and lacks flexibility and quickness. You can see it in his highlights because instead of driving linemen off the ball he strikes and yanks them. Flexible linemen that have good balance don't do that. Those physical traits don't change.

Click to expand...

CaneLB, After watching his HL tape I agree with a lot of the things you said. But he has been very, very impressive in any summer camp films I have seen. Lu, what is your opinion of KC?

I don't have much of an opinion of him as a player because I've never seen him live (in a game or a camp) and his tape reflects much of what CaneLB indicated. Certainly, I'm not going to rely on a Soph tape, but if that's *all* I had to go on to make a decision right now, I'd highly question a top ranking for the kid. However, it's early and his brother is a technical lineman, so I suspect his next tape will look significantly different. FWIW, I like HS OL tape to have multiple clips within the same game. It gives a better indication than random highlights.

Last edited: Jul 10, 2012

G
gcane44

Jul 10, 2012

CaneLB said:
moshated305 said:

McDermott not Miami caliber? LOL That was a joke right? Kid will have offers from everyone and will be a top 100 player next year. He is already on 247's top 100. Darling is a beast as well but landed just outside the top 100. Both are studs and both will be Canes.

Click to expand...

So he's a stud because 247 says so? John Theus was a 5* on those sites too but a lot of people (myself included) thought he was extremely overrated. If you're gonna speak condescendingly towards me at least post your own analysis. McDermott is top-heavy, bends at the waist, lacks flexibility and quickness, and he plays OG in HS. That's not a Miami caliber OL to me. Yes he's only a Soph, he's big, and he's the brother of a Cane who has great intangibles, but his highlight film is average.

I'm just sharing my opinion though. My only wish is that people like you evaluate for yourselves and stop reading those recruiting rankings uncritically.

I appreciate your take on this, and I definitely think some of your concerns and criticisms of KC are things to watch out for as he progresses over the next 2 years of HS. With that said, I'd argue that KC McDermott very much looks Miami caliber considering where he is at currently, his potential, and likely continued improvement. I see a kid that is 6'6 with a great frame, as a sophomore. To be 6'6 so young means he is likely still adapting to his new height/size and growing into his body.

You voice the fact that he plays guard for his HS as a criticism, but I think you need to contextualize it more before doing so. IMO it looks like the offense run by PBC is very run heavy (evidenced by the fact that Angelo Jean-Louis never had the stats to match his obvious talent level throughout HS). In a lot of HS run heavy offenses, the coaches will put their most talented OL at guard because of the increased responsibility with pulling, trapping, etc. McDermott pulls a lot in his tape and seems to have good feet, balance, and movement in doing so (that is all while not likely being fully grown into/adjusted to his size). IMO he looks mostly very good, yet somewhat unrefined in his run blocking. From the highlights I saw, it seemed like the most successful plays for PBC were up the middle (traps), that would also highlight the importance of the guard to this offense.

I also think PBC might simply not have the best of coaching (not fully utilizing AJL and Gabe Terry's talents IMO), which may be seen by watching both AJL and McDermott's tapes and seeing very simple plays on offense that aren't executed greatly. A lot of quick, 1 read passes and the OL not having great pass blocking technique.

With McDermott I see an OL who has great bloodlines. Both of his brothers were/are regarded as really good OL with the attitude, smarts, technique, and explosiveness, just being limited in size to different extents. I think the popular thought is that KC is a version of his brothers with the ideal size and solid athleticism. In looking at pictures and videos of him, you can see that his body has already gone through some transformation in the past year to being a leaner better built guy that is growing into his frame. You also see advancing coordination (check this video: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/videos/_/id/135210/kc-mcdermott)

Basically I see some of your concerns as very valid, but with full context I see reason to believe KC has awesome potential that he is in the process of realizing as well.

C
canenation91

Jul 10, 2012

CaneLB said:
canenation91 said:

Every scout has the kid as a bona fide stud. It's fine if you watch film and think you have a professional opinion, but when you're completely wrong it's just embarrassing. You can say anyone has better film, but when evaluating high schoolers it isn't all about their technique, it's the ceiling that their physical ability can take them and at this point KC has better physical ability than Trevor. KC is a better prospect than Trevor. That's not saying Trevor is a bad prospect at all, but KC definitely has everything needed to be a five star.

-Attack the post not the poster-USNAVYCANE

Click to expand...

So if you say something negative about a player that other people like you're automatically wrong and embarrassing yourself? I think you'd be surprised at how often people with "professional opinions" are wrong in their evaluations of high school prospects. Coaches and recruiting insiders aren't necessarily expert evaluators. I've never seen KC play in person and he hasn't started his Jr yet so I'm not gonna speak in certainties, but his HL film doesn't look Miami caliber to me.

I don't see what ceiling you're talking about. Darling has bad technique but he's big, athletic and strong. McDermott is top-heavy and lacks flexibility and quickness. You can see it in his highlights because instead of driving linemen off the ball he strikes and yanks them. Flexible linemen that have good balance don't do that. Those physical traits don't change.

Sorry shouldn't have attacked your opinion like I did, but the people that have formed their opinions on him have seen more of him than just a sophomore highlight film to base those opinions on.

LuCane

Jul 10, 2012

gcane44 said:
CaneLB said:

moshated305 said:

McDermott not Miami caliber? LOL That was a joke right? Kid will have offers from everyone and will be a top 100 player next year. He is already on 247's top 100. Darling is a beast as well but landed just outside the top 100. Both are studs and both will be Canes.

Click to expand...

So he's a stud because 247 says so? John Theus was a 5* on those sites too but a lot of people (myself included) thought he was extremely overrated. If you're gonna speak condescendingly towards me at least post your own analysis. McDermott is top-heavy, bends at the waist, lacks flexibility and quickness, and he plays OG in HS. That's not a Miami caliber OL to me. Yes he's only a Soph, he's big, and he's the brother of a Cane who has great intangibles, but his highlight film is average.

I'm just sharing my opinion though. My only wish is that people like you evaluate for yourselves and stop reading those recruiting rankings uncritically.

Click to expand...

I appreciate your take on this, and I definitely think some of your concerns and criticisms of KC are things to watch out for as he progresses over the next 2 years of HS. With that said, I'd argue that KC McDermott very much looks Miami caliber considering where he is at currently, his potential, and likely continued improvement. I see a kid that is 6'6 with a great frame, as a sophomore. To be 6'6 so young means he is likely still adapting to his new height/size and growing into his body.

You voice the fact that he plays guard for his HS as a criticism, but I think you need to contextualize it more before doing so. IMO it looks like the offense run by PBC is very run heavy (evidenced by the fact that Angelo Jean-Louis never had the stats to match his obvious talent level throughout HS). In a lot of HS run heavy offenses, the coaches will put their most talented OL at guard because of the increased responsibility with pulling, trapping, etc. McDermott pulls a lot in his tape and seems to have good feet, balance, and movement in doing so (that is all while not likely being fully grown into/adjusted to his size). IMO he looks mostly very good, yet somewhat unrefined in his run blocking. From the highlights I saw, it seemed like the most successful plays for PBC were up the middle (traps), that would also highlight the importance of the guard to this offense.

I also think PBC might simply not have the best of coaching (not fully utilizing AJL and Gabe Terry's talents IMO), which may be seen by watching both AJL and McDermott's tapes and seeing very simple plays on offense that aren't executed greatly. A lot of quick, 1 read passes and the OL not having great pass blocking technique.

With McDermott I see an OL who has great bloodlines. Both of his brothers were/are regarded as really good OL with the attitude, smarts, technique, and explosiveness, just being limited in size to different extents. I think the popular thought is that KC is a version of his brothers with the ideal size and solid athleticism. In looking at pictures and videos of him, you can see that his body has already gone through some transformation in the past year to being a leaner better built guy that is growing into his frame. You also see advancing coordination (check this video: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/videos/_/id/135210/kc-mcdermott)

Basically I see some of your concerns as very valid, but with full context I see reason to believe KC has awesome potential that he is in the process of realizing as well.

This is the type of discourse we encourage on this board and was foreseen when we started this board to get away from the deterioration of other boards. Thank you.

moshated305

Jul 10, 2012

gcane44 said:
CaneLB said:

moshated305 said:

McDermott not Miami caliber? LOL That was a joke right? Kid will have offers from everyone and will be a top 100 player next year. He is already on 247's top 100. Darling is a beast as well but landed just outside the top 100. Both are studs and both will be Canes.

Click to expand...

So he's a stud because 247 says so? John Theus was a 5* on those sites too but a lot of people (myself included) thought he was extremely overrated. If you're gonna speak condescendingly towards me at least post your own analysis. McDermott is top-heavy, bends at the waist, lacks flexibility and quickness, and he plays OG in HS. That's not a Miami caliber OL to me. Yes he's only a Soph, he's big, and he's the brother of a Cane who has great intangibles, but his highlight film is average.

I'm just sharing my opinion though. My only wish is that people like you evaluate for yourselves and stop reading those recruiting rankings uncritically.

Click to expand...

I appreciate your take on this, and I definitely think some of your concerns and criticisms of KC are things to watch out for as he progresses over the next 2 years of HS. With that said, I'd argue that KC McDermott very much looks Miami caliber considering where he is at currently, his potential, and likely continued improvement. I see a kid that is 6'6 with a great frame, as a sophomore. To be 6'6 so young means he is likely still adapting to his new height/size and growing into his body.

You voice the fact that he plays guard for his HS as a criticism, but I think you need to contextualize it more before doing so. IMO it looks like the offense run by PBC is very run heavy (evidenced by the fact that Angelo Jean-Louis never had the stats to match his obvious talent level throughout HS). In a lot of HS run heavy offenses, the coaches will put their most talented OL at guard because of the increased responsibility with pulling, trapping, etc. McDermott pulls a lot in his tape and seems to have good feet, balance, and movement in doing so (that is all while not likely being fully grown into/adjusted to his size). IMO he looks mostly very good, yet somewhat unrefined in his run blocking. From the highlights I saw, it seemed like the most successful plays for PBC were up the middle (traps), that would also highlight the importance of the guard to this offense.

I also think PBC might simply not have the best of coaching (not fully utilizing AJL and Gabe Terry's talents IMO), which may be seen by watching both AJL and McDermott's tapes and seeing very simple plays on offense that aren't executed greatly. A lot of quick, 1 read passes and the OL not having great pass blocking technique.

With McDermott I see an OL who has great bloodlines. Both of his brothers were/are regarded as really good OL with the attitude, smarts, technique, and explosiveness, just being limited in size to different extents. I think the popular thought is that KC is a version of his brothers with the ideal size and solid athleticism. In looking at pictures and videos of him, you can see that his body has already gone through some transformation in the past year to being a leaner better built guy that is growing into his frame. You also see advancing coordination (check this video: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/videos/_/id/135210/kc-mcdermott)

Basically I see some of your concerns as very valid, but with full context I see reason to believe KC has awesome potential that he is in the process of realizing as well.

I wholeheartedly agree with this post. My bad for attacking early, this is what I should have said. But I thought saying a kid isn't Cane caliber was ridiculously. I don't mind someones having concerns about a kid's game but saying he isn't Cane caliber at this stage is way off, IMO. I also think McDermott will see the field earlier than Darling because he doesn't have the bad weight that Darling is currently carrying but like I said both are very good and hopefully we see both in Cane uniforms a few years from now.

B
bbcane

Jul 10, 2012

Has anyone seen Williams play?i have not. Just Do not see what every one likes so much from highlights I think we can do better in state. My opinion is lsu is slow playing him, if they want him they get him.

Jul 10, 2012

You voice the fact that he plays guard for his HS as a criticism, but I think you need to contextualize it more before doing so. IMO it looks like the offense run by PBC is very run heavy (evidenced by the fact that Angelo Jean-Louis never had the stats to match his obvious talent level throughout HS). In a lot of HS run heavy offenses, the coaches will put their most talented OL at guard because of the increased responsibility with pulling, trapping, etc.

Thats a great point. When evaluating college linemen in terms of NFL potential playing guard instead of tackle may be a negative, but in run heavy high school offenses the guards are often the most athletic linemen. For a guy that size at that age to be pulling and trapping like that is a plus, not a minus in my view.

T
TP800

Jul 10, 2012

You guys that "watch tape" here. Are you watching the two-five clips Provided by ESPN and YouTube. Or are you watching the hours of tape which may include both practices/games filmed by recruiting services and other companies that the college programs pay for as part of the recruiting budget on the side.

LuCane

Jul 10, 2012

TP800 said:
You guys that "watch tape" here. Are you watching the two-five clips Provided by ESPN and YouTube. Or are you watching the hours of tape which may include both practices/games filmed by recruiting services and other companies that the college programs pay for as part of the recruiting budget on the side.

I think most guys who comment on a highlight film simply say so. FWIW, if you think coaches are watch hours of practice and game tape, you're living in a dream world. I can tell you from experience that guys have been offered on much less. Our hope is that day is gone and guys are getting offered moreso on what the coaches see in person, at camps, etc., but it's a mix of everything. Like I've said when I review other youtube "tapes," there is only so much that can be interpreted from a collection of highlights that often doesn't even have the player at his projected position.

Also, an analysis of actual film - youtube or otherwise - on here is often more than what you're getting on paid boards by guys who know absolutely zero about football. It's a discussion. It's often a discussion by football enthusiasts. Take it for what it is worth.