CanesAreAble said:

Another key point Rudy made:


Teams are playing heavy cover 2 man because they're confident they can rush Brad with 4, and they know he's not a threat to take off. Richt is trying to run teams out of the two deep look so Brad can see more single-high coverage, but we're not really making teams pay. It's forcing WRs to beat press coverage and Brad to make tight throws. The results have been inconsistent.

He suggested we use Njoku/Hernon on more deep routes, as well as going to some 4 and 5-WR sets to get some favorable one-and-one matchups and get the ball out quick.


I thought his analysis was on point, especially the part about cover 2 man.

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I didn't listen to the interview, but this is exactly what I see as the issue.

Against the more talented defenses, we don't consistently win the battle at the LOS to force another defender down. And teams are better able to defend our passing game with 2-high.

Teams play us with single high when they blitz, and they're getting there fast enough to throw our timing off. So, we don't make them pay by breaking pass plays.

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LuCane said:

Cortez55403 said:

Don't quite ageee, Lu. When Kaaya rolls to the right, either directly or off of a play fake bootleg, he has been successful.

Agree with you that Kaaya's ability to roll to the left is very, very limited. He looks awkward and unathletic. Also, our LT's ability to protect vs a speed rusher is very, very limited. So, let's drop back, drift to the right and bootleg to the right.

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I imagine that Herndon play stands out. I get it. On designed boots, Kaaya has gotten Herndon for a few chunk plays.

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Njoku too. Njoku had another big gain chance vs unc on that same play but dropped it. Kaaya hit him right in the hands and he would have got at least 20-30 yards.

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I don't know if that was a boot play. On a PA short roll, Marquez also dropped a pass. Listen, there are problems at each level: playcall, Kaaya and WR execution. They can't all seem to get it together for any kind of consistency. If we're going to try to move Kaaya around, then he's going to have to be more accurate on those throws. Additionally, he's fixating on his primary guy in these plays. Everything seems just a tick or two off.

Rudy recommending what The Living Legend has been clamoring for. More spread. More quick passes. More TE down the field. No more heavy reliance on that awkward RPO nonsense.

Read the tea leaves here. You think Rudy is coming up with this solely on his own, or do you think he and Brad have discussed what Brad feels best doing and what he thinks could help?

MIATL said:

CanesAreAble said:

Another key point Rudy made:


Teams are playing heavy cover 2 man because they're confident they can rush Brad with 4, and they know he's not a threat to take off. Richt is trying to run teams out of the two deep look so Brad can see more single-high coverage, but we're not really making teams pay. It's forcing WRs to beat press coverage and Brad to make tight throws. The results have been inconsistent.

He suggested we use Njoku/Hernon on more deep routes, as well as going to some 4 and 5-WR sets to get some favorable one-and-one matchups and get the ball out quick.


I thought his analysis was on point, especially the part about cover 2 man.

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I didn't listen to the interview, but this is exactly what I see as the issue.

Against the more talented defenses, we don't consistently win the battle at the LOS to force another defender down. And teams are better able to defend our passing game with 2-high.

Teams play us with single high when they blitz, and they're getting there fast enough to throw our timing off. So, we don't make them pay by breaking pass plays.

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Rick is letting teams tee off on us by constantly getting us in 2nd and 3rd and long and by not testing defenses deep often enough to keep them honest. He can also put more WRs on the field to get defenses out of that phone booth.

CanesAreAble said:

Another key point Rudy made:


Teams are playing heavy cover 2 man because they're confident they can rush Brad with 4, and they know he's not a threat to take off. Richt is trying to run teams out of the two deep look so Brad can see more single-high coverage, but we're not really making teams pay. It's forcing WRs to beat press coverage and Brad to make tight throws. The results have been inconsistent.

He suggested we use Njoku/Hernon on more deep routes, as well as going to some 4 and 5-WR sets to get some favorable one-and-one matchups and get the ball out quick.


I thought his analysis was on point, especially the part about cover 2 man.

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But when i brought up how the man defense effected our offense in the FSU game these dumb fuqs..............

you know what.... nevermind.

I wouldn't trust the o-line in 5 wide. Even with quick throws. They are a liability.

I'm starting to really despise the Searels hire. I don't think he's coaching these boys to the best of their ability. I could be wrong but I dont knooooooowww

We would have to have some pretty wicked route concepts and personnel groupings to run a 5 wide with this o-line.

It's been mentioned teams are already confident they can get to brad with just 4 and that brad often throws against 7 and 8 defenders... so I dont get how that supposed to work but i guess it could depending on the route concepts.

If we send Njoku up the seam more he has to catch the **** ball.

The Franchise said:

MIATL said:

CanesAreAble said:

Another key point Rudy made:


Teams are playing heavy cover 2 man because they're confident they can rush Brad with 4, and they know he's not a threat to take off. Richt is trying to run teams out of the two deep look so Brad can see more single-high coverage, but we're not really making teams pay. It's forcing WRs to beat press coverage and Brad to make tight throws. The results have been inconsistent.

He suggested we use Njoku/Hernon on more deep routes, as well as going to some 4 and 5-WR sets to get some favorable one-and-one matchups and get the ball out quick.


I thought his analysis was on point, especially the part about cover 2 man.

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I didn't listen to the interview, but this is exactly what I see as the issue.

Against the more talented defenses, we don't consistently win the battle at the LOS to force another defender down. And teams are better able to defend our passing game with 2-high.

Teams play us with single high when they blitz, and they're getting there fast enough to throw our timing off. So, we don't make them pay by breaking pass plays.

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Rick is letting teams tee off on us by constantly getting us in 2nd and 3rd and long and by not testing defenses deep often enough to keep them honest. He can also put more WRs on the field to get defenses out of that phone booth.

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I agree with you, and your answer to the O.

Go to the gun, throw it 40 times a game. Run it to keep the D off balance and to kill the clock at end of games.

But I doubt Richt does it.

I think he's playing the long game. He's showing QB recruits what he will be running for them ... Also showing running back recruits that they will be a priority.

But that's not playing to the strengths of our current QB and OL.

not a trainer but my question is possible during last off season that Kaaya could of got quicker feet or faster to fit this system? Not asking a lot like 3 yards or just move one step fast. This is a question, would just like to know.

Honest question that someone may recall from our first 6 games:

1. Have we seen a single reverse or fake reverse play this year?
None that I can think of...
2. Have we seen any 4-wide or 5-wide formations this year?
A few 4-wide, but no unique looks/packages; no 5-wide
3. Have we seen any wheel routes for Walton/Yearby this year?
I do not see our RBs in the passing game other than the occasional screen pass.
4. How many 2-TE formations were pass plays vs run plays?
I would say nearly ever 2-TE formation we have has been a running play
5. How many times have Walton/Yearby been on the field at the same time?
None that I recall - why not have a pitch option play with 1 RB as the fake and the other rolling out for the pass? At least it pulls the LBs/Safety out of position every now and then.

The above questions are my main concern. I thought Coley was a mediocre OC, but did all of the above rather consistently and it kept defenses on their toes and had no problem using our play makers to "make plays". Best example of this was his usage of Yearby/Walton in the passing game.

HurricaneAce07 said:

Honest question that someone may recall from our first 6 games:

1. Have we seen a single reverse or fake reverse play this year?
None that I can think of...
2. Have we seen any 4-wide or 5-wide formations this year?
A few 4-wide, but no unique looks/packages; no 5-wide
3. Have we seen any wheel routes for Walton/Yearby this year?
I do not see our RBs in the passing game other than the occasional screen pass.
4. How many 2-TE formations were pass plays vs run plays?
I would say nearly ever 2-TE formation we have has been a running play
5. How many times have Walton/Yearby been on the field at the same time?
None that I recall - why not have a pitch option play with 1 RB as the fake and the other rolling out for the pass? At least it pulls the LBs/Safety out of position every now and then.

The above questions are my main concern. I thought Coley was a mediocre OC, but did all of the above rather consistently and it kept defenses on their toes and had no problem using our play makers to "make plays". Best example of this was his usage of Yearby/Walton in the passing game.

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1. No
2. Tons and Tons of 4WR sets. A lot of them with trips right
3. No. That one actually requires a good bit of time, so I understand trying to reduce the [lack of protection] variable
4. A decent amount of balance, though tipping toward run, in 12 personnel (2 TEs). My problem here is that there aren't enough on 1st downs and between the hashes
5. I have not seen the expected 2RB formations and we haven't thrown the ball in the flats enough when opportunities were there (especially FSU)

That red zone stuff was spot on they should huddle and take there time and call money plays down there


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LuCane said:

1. No
2. Tons and Tons of 4WR sets. A lot of them with trips right
3. No. That one actually requires a good bit of time, so I understand trying to reduce the [lack of protection] variable
4. A decent amount of balance, though tipping toward run, in 12 personnel (2 TEs). My problem here is that there aren't enough on 1st downs and between the hashes
5. I have not seen the expected 2RB formations and we haven't thrown the ball in the flats enough when opportunities were there (especially FSU)

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Thanks, LuCane. Makes sense on the lack of protection. I still really want to see more use of our mismatches - TEs and RBs in the passing game. That's where we make our money this year.

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Cortez55403 said:

djrion said:

Cliff notes?

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Great stuff. Thanks Pete

* need to be less predictable on O and come out aggressively early in games. Poor start against UNC really hurt.
* quick hitters to WRs a must as a form of the running game. Takes pressure off the OL. Less predictable.
* roll Brad out a bit more and encourage him to run for 2-4 yard gains once in awhile. Brady, the Mannings, and Rivers can't run either. But they can make it second and seven rather than second and ten.
* got to use Berrios on third downs from the slot for 3-10 yard completions. Not using him now.
* DLs getting pressure with only 3-4 rushers puts Brad in a bad spot. He's having to throw against 7-8 defenders.
* Brad himself must step up and win games. Richt can and should put the game more in Brad's hands.

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One thing I'll say is that, while he recommends for Kaaya to roll out more, he's been below average throwing on the move this year.

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No he seems natural, NFL like on those playfakes where he fakes the cameras out on tv and for the mos part throw perfect passes on those. Need to do that more. He's advanced at that

After listening to the podcast & reading all you guys comments, I came away with one conclusion...

Hire a ****** OC Richt!

Liberty City El said:

After listening to the podcast & reading all you guys comments, I came away with one conclusion...

Hire a ****in OC Richt!

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Taint happening anytime soon, homie.

brock said:

LuCane said:

Cortez55403 said:

djrion said:

Cliff notes?

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Great stuff. Thanks Pete

* need to be less predictable on O and come out aggressively early in games. Poor start against UNC really hurt.
* quick hitters to WRs a must as a form of the running game. Takes pressure off the OL. Less predictable.
* roll Brad out a bit more and encourage him to run for 2-4 yard gains once in awhile. Brady, the Mannings, and Rivers can't run either. But they can make it second and seven rather than second and ten.
* got to use Berrios on third downs from the slot for 3-10 yard completions. Not using him now.
* DLs getting pressure with only 3-4 rushers puts Brad in a bad spot. He's having to throw against 7-8 defenders.
* Brad himself must step up and win games. Richt can and should put the game more in Brad's hands.

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One thing I'll say is that, while he recommends for Kaaya to roll out more, he's been below average throwing on the move this year.

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No he seems natural, NFL like on those playfakes where he fakes the cameras out on tv and for the mos part throw perfect passes on those. Need to do that more. He's advanced at that

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I think this is an example of playing the result. The result being some of those Herndon underneath plays and Njoku outside of the hashes on the boot. They've worked a handful of times and stand out, while other incompletions, high throws and balls in the dirt go overlooked. To me, throwing on the move is an area for improvement for Kaaya. I feel like I actually remember him actually being better here last year.

We'd have to re-watch all his throws to see what kind of percentages we're talking about. Think most of us, myself included, are going from memory.

KrazyCane said:

CanesAreAble said:

Another key point Rudy made:


Teams are playing heavy cover 2 man because they're confident they can rush Brad with 4, and they know he's not a threat to take off. Richt is trying to run teams out of the two deep look so Brad can see more single-high coverage, but we're not really making teams pay. It's forcing WRs to beat press coverage and Brad to make tight throws. The results have been inconsistent.

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And the reason is bc of Brad Kaaya.. He's holding the offense back bc he isn't making good decisions or throws when we need him to "make teams pay." So defenses aren't being forced to make adjustments.

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The OL needs to be able to stand up to a 4 man rush. If they can't, Then Kayaa will have difficulty making plays. People get hung up on QB play without looking at the OL and what their performance means for coverages. If we can't force defenses to send a blitzes or move a safety to the box we're going to have a rough go in the passing game. Bottom line, we need to start forcing defenses to change what they're doing or we won't be successful.

LuCane said:

HurricaneAce07 said:

Honest question that someone may recall from our first 6 games:

1. Have we seen a single reverse or fake reverse play this year?
None that I can think of...
2. Have we seen any 4-wide or 5-wide formations this year?
A few 4-wide, but no unique looks/packages; no 5-wide
3. Have we seen any wheel routes for Walton/Yearby this year?
I do not see our RBs in the passing game other than the occasional screen pass.
4. How many 2-TE formations were pass plays vs run plays?
I would say nearly ever 2-TE formation we have has been a running play
5. How many times have Walton/Yearby been on the field at the same time?
None that I recall - why not have a pitch option play with 1 RB as the fake and the other rolling out for the pass? At least it pulls the LBs/Safety out of position every now and then.

The above questions are my main concern. I thought Coley was a mediocre OC, but did all of the above rather consistently and it kept defenses on their toes and had no problem using our play makers to "make plays". Best example of this was his usage of Yearby/Walton in the passing game.

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1. No
2. Tons and Tons of 4WR sets. A lot of them with trips right
3. No. That one actually requires a good bit of time, so I understand trying to reduce the [lack of protection] variable
4. A decent amount of balance, though tipping toward run, in 12 personnel (2 TEs). My problem here is that there aren't enough on 1st downs and between the hashes
5. I have not seen the expected 2RB formations and we haven't thrown the ball in the flats enough when opportunities were there (especially FSU)

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You're on point as usual. I myself said in another thread I would group Walton, Yearby, Njoku, Herndon, and Coley (or Richards, depending).

From there you could do so many things...Herndon @ H, Yearby in the slot with Coley out wide, etc etc etc.

I just haven't seen anything super creative to try to force mismatches.

I also can't recall a single offensive player ever going in motion this year. Am I wrong on that?

BALLHAWKU said:

not a trainer but my question is possible during last off season that Kaaya could of got quicker feet or faster to fit this system? Not asking a lot like 3 yards or just move one step fast. This is a question, would just like to know.

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Kaaya is as quick as he is ever going to be. He will not get quicker by losing weight because he is not over weight ,so that wont help.

Speed drills can help, but you cant turn a 5.4 guy into 5.0 guy so what you see now from Kaaya is about as fast as you'll see. Cant teach speed or quickness.

I think part of the problem is that Kaaya looks great in practice ,in a controlled environment ,where he is not allowed to get hit or required to run but then is unable to duplicate that in a game.
He is very accurate standing still with little pressure but in a game situation ,he struggles when the pocket breaks down while other QBs are able to create. Kaaya's only option is 1. throw the ball away (which is why he always hovers around 60% and no better on completions) or 2. take the sack.
Some will say 60% is pretty good and it is if you can also take off 5 or 6 times every game for any kind of positive yardage which our QB cannot do.

Our coaching staff has a huge challenge to make this offense click against the better teams with a QB who cannot run and create when things breakdown.

AutoCANE said:

LuCane said:

HurricaneAce07 said:

Honest question that someone may recall from our first 6 games:

1. Have we seen a single reverse or fake reverse play this year?
None that I can think of...
2. Have we seen any 4-wide or 5-wide formations this year?
A few 4-wide, but no unique looks/packages; no 5-wide
3. Have we seen any wheel routes for Walton/Yearby this year?
I do not see our RBs in the passing game other than the occasional screen pass.
4. How many 2-TE formations were pass plays vs run plays?
I would say nearly ever 2-TE formation we have has been a running play
5. How many times have Walton/Yearby been on the field at the same time?
None that I recall - why not have a pitch option play with 1 RB as the fake and the other rolling out for the pass? At least it pulls the LBs/Safety out of position every now and then.

The above questions are my main concern. I thought Coley was a mediocre OC, but did all of the above rather consistently and it kept defenses on their toes and had no problem using our play makers to "make plays". Best example of this was his usage of Yearby/Walton in the passing game.

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1. No
2. Tons and Tons of 4WR sets. A lot of them with trips right
3. No. That one actually requires a good bit of time, so I understand trying to reduce the [lack of protection] variable
4. A decent amount of balance, though tipping toward run, in 12 personnel (2 TEs). My problem here is that there aren't enough on 1st downs and between the hashes
5. I have not seen the expected 2RB formations and we haven't thrown the ball in the flats enough when opportunities were there (especially FSU)

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You're on point as usual. I myself said in another thread I would group Walton, Yearby, Njoku, Herndon, and Coley (or Richards, depending).

From there you could do so many things...Herndon @ H, Yearby in the slot with Coley out wide, etc etc etc.

I just haven't seen anything super creative to try to force mismatches.

I also can't recall a single offensive player ever going in motion this year. Am I wrong on that?

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My biggest concern was highlighted by Rudy in his interview: where are the seam throws. Even though Richt adjusted to some inside the hash throws, they were of the quick in variety. So, people will say we don't have enough time from the OL for a 15-18 yard seam throw, but we have enough time for some sideline throws? I don't understand that at all. Kaaya lived off 4Vert during Coley's tenure. Get him some more of that. He's good with it.