I Really Miss September

I Really Miss September

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Mario needs two more classes to do what?

What the **** is Mario going to change
Getting really tired of hearing the coach before was left with no talent, need 4 years to get this right after every coach is hired blah, blah, blah. Just to end in the same damm way. Seems like there are teams out there that get a new coach and win right away. If you are a good coach you can find a way to win games. No way there is not enough talent on these teams over the past twenty years to perform the way they do. 1 decent season in all these years, 2017, and numerous humiliating loses.
 
Getting really tired of hearing the coach before was left with no talent, need 4 years to get this right after every coach is hired blah, blah, blah. Just to end in the same damm way. Seems like there are teams out there that get a new coach and win right away. If you are a good coach you can find a way to win games. No way there is not enough talent on these teams over the past twenty years to perform the way they do. 1 decent season in all these years, 2017, and numerous humiliating loses.

Hey Mario is probably not the guy and not excusing anything....but how many years did it take everyone's new favorite coach prison Mike to turn around the semenholes? I'm pretty sure some of his most embarrassing loses came in year two.
That doesn't mean Mario will turn it around and be the guy.
 
Also Diaz left the cupboard even more bare than I thought, we had absolutely nothing for Mario. Mario needs 2 more recruiting classes to start to see significant improvement in the win column. We need a better QB and more depth everywhere and keep improving both lines.

Disappointed in Leonard Taylor at DT. I expected more production from him.

You don't need two more recruiting classes. Not in today's game, where things can change from season to season. Notice that WR still running, he's a transfer.

Even if you go with the 2 more classes angles, what are you selling?

We win? Nope.

We produce NFL draft picks at a high level? Nope

The only way you can overcome those two things is by making offers you can't say no to. By that, I mean NIL deals that are so beyond what other offer you don't even leave the door open for no.

Yes, we need help, but it's more than that. We're hitting on some kids, money is there for some of what we want. Looking at the class though, it's our usual drumming up of alright prospects, but not the kind that puts you towards the top. Will we see an exodus if we don't end the season well? Who do we replace them with? Key positions in the portal, we took a lot of swings and missed on most.

Some people have made a big investment in this program. The results aren't there yet. People who have money are smart and if the results don't start coming, they'll quit throwing money this way. These results don't inspire confidence.
 
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If fumbling on the goal line are plays “that will happen” then so will 15 yard penalties. Both are bad and had a hand in the loss.

Guidry’s penalty was a terrible call. Mack was just as mad and angry as Guidry. I’ve seen Saban completely lose it just like every other coach. It was a terrible call by the referees.

Yes, we’ve lost two in a row, but if we can’t see that the program is better right now than at any point under Randy Shannon, Al Golden, and Manny, then we’re completely blind.

The players we are cursing were inherited. JW, Flagg, TVD, Parrish, Couch, Keontra, all were here. Two losses don’t change the plan and the trajectory. Collectively, we said 8-4 and 9-3 were the realistic windows. Clemson and FSU look like losses UVA, BC, NC State, and Louisville get us to 8.
HP wasn't here. he was brought in by Mario last year. TVD was begged to come back. Couch plays by the choices of the coach. they have other kids. they choose to play couch. this is just excuse making bull****. how are we better? bc we had a soft *** schedule and beat up on crappy teams? we went 5-7 and fired everyone he hired 9 months prior. now were 0-2 in conference, offense looks marginally better against ACC teams but still deficient and mistaken prone, and routinely get out coached
 
Just eight days ago, Miami was considered one of the surprising teams in the country. Undefeated and rising up the rankings. Now, they are a slumping squad on a two-game losing skid. Where did it all go wrong?

Miami dropped their fifth consecutive game to North Carolina, 41-31, in a game that wasn't really as close as the final score indicated. This is now a deflated team.

Yeah, some will say it began with the ill-advised decision to not kneel on the ball late in last weeks game versus Georgia Tech. But that's seems like a convenient alibi.

Because the truth is that the Hurricanes actually played hard in the first half in Chapel Hill, as they went into halftime with a 17-14 lead. This despite a Henry Parrish fumble on the edge of the goal line, and a few of the usual bonehead penalties that Miami always seems to be goaded into.

The victory over Texas A&M, the 4-0 start, the top 25 ranking seems so long ago. I miss September, it was so fun and hopeful.

Believe it or not, this actually felt worse than the loss to the Yellow Jackets.

If Miami could have somehow come out with a win over the Tar Heels, just about everything was still there for the Hurricanes in terms of the ACC. Now, they are in a tailspin, with a realization that there are still years away under the guidance of Mario Cristobal. Now you worry as Clemson awaits this team, if a tailspin is on the way. Or maybe it's already begun?

Is this just part of the rebuilding process? (Which reminds me of that old line that said a certain moribund franchise was in the 15th year of a five-year rebuilding process.) Or, and I hate to say this -- is the program cursed, and doomed for mediocrity?

Being a cynical optimist, who lived through the Butch Davis rebuild (any one else remember the losses to East Carolina, and the 1997 campaign?), I refuse to believe that. But at a certain point you feel the frustration of nearly two decades of mediocre-to-below-average football.

What's really infuriating is what lead to this loss. Some examples:

- As angry as we all were over Henry Parrish's fumble at the UNC goal line, down 7-0, that's a physical error. Those will happen. Parrish is a guy that always gives great effort, and a solid producer. These things will happen, inevitably. But what's inexcusable are the penalties like the one Keontra Smith got after a drive ending sack from Kam Kinchens.

This is perhaps my biggest issue with the current 'Canes -- they try and act like the 80's team, without the actual talent and results, but without the realization that the ACC officials will police them very closely. Yes, football is a game of emotion and passion, but too many times I see Miami players flirting with danger as they get into opponents faces.

There is a real lack of situational awareness, here. What I've noticed is that they will allow you to celebrate with your teammates, but not taunt your foes. So yeah, go ahead and do a 'Soul Train Line' or 'the Running Man' with your guys, but if you jaw with the opponents, you might get flagged.

The fact our players don't understand that, and that our staff wont discipline them, is maddening.

- Miami was down three scores with under 10 minutes to go, and yet, they were still huddling, running the clock down. Look, I'm not Gary Stevens or Rhett Lashlee, but shouldn't they have been in more up-tempo, and just airing the ball out? Just my view, the time to establish the run had long passed.

- It was a tale of two halves for the Hurricanes defense. First half they rattled the highly touted Drake Maye, hitting and sacking him numerous times. They got home, and Rueben Bain showed why everyone loves his future(and present). But in the second half as they gave up 21 consecutive points, they surrended two touchdowns on 3rd and very longs, that were back breaking plays.

Also they got gashed up the middle in the run game by Omarion Hampton (who ran for 197 yards), and then didn't guard the flats, at all in the third and fourth quarters. Prior to this game, this unit had been stout in plugging the run but they had some real issues in the run fits.

- On a key fourth down situation late in the first half, Lance Guidry, was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct, that gave North Carolina a free first down. Again, the lack of discipline isn't just about the players.

- On the bright side, Brashard Smith and Isaiah Horton may have earned more snaps outside, as they made some plays in the throw game.

So yeah, Miami is now 4-2, and you wonder just how the rest of this season will play out. Coach Cristobal is fond of saying that, ''there are no big things, there are no small things -- a thing is a thing. It all matters."

Tonight, it all mattered.
We may never come back if this guy can’t do it. I don’t understand these dudes. They celebrate heavy when we have not even arrived on the scene. You can’t act like that until you have arrived and we have not.
 
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I thought two things could happen today, post-GT. The team would come out flat and get blown out from the first quarter or the team would come out with their hair on fire.

Instead, I thought the defense came out and played very well early and while the offense wasn’t great, they should’ve scored 24 points in the first half. The fumble cost us 7. And to be fair, I thought the refs gave us a couple extra opportunities that we hadn’t gotten previously. The penalties were valid. It’s just they usually aren’t called in our favor.

The second half was adjustments by UNC that Miami couldn’t counter. As @Memnon wrote, we don’t have speed in the secondary. Walker is the real deal and we couldn’t handle him. Big plays put the team in a hole, made the offense play from behind, and that’s not Miami’s game.

So they kind of ended up in between. I didn’t see the sense of urgency from start to finish, but they didn’t play like **** the whole game either.
 
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Just eight days ago, Miami was considered one of the surprising teams in the country. Undefeated and rising up the rankings. Now, they are a slumping squad on a two-game losing skid. Where did it all go wrong?

Miami dropped their fifth consecutive game to North Carolina, 41-31, in a game that wasn't really as close as the final score indicated. This is now a deflated team.

Yeah, some will say it began with the ill-advised decision to not kneel on the ball late in last weeks game versus Georgia Tech. But that's seems like a convenient alibi.

Because the truth is that the Hurricanes actually played hard in the first half in Chapel Hill, as they went into halftime with a 17-14 lead. This despite a Henry Parrish fumble on the edge of the goal line, and a few of the usual bonehead penalties that Miami always seems to be goaded into.

The victory over Texas A&M, the 4-0 start, the top 25 ranking seems so long ago. I miss September, it was so fun and hopeful.

Believe it or not, this actually felt worse than the loss to the Yellow Jackets.

If Miami could have somehow come out with a win over the Tar Heels, just about everything was still there for the Hurricanes in terms of the ACC. Now, they are in a tailspin, with a realization that there are still years away under the guidance of Mario Cristobal. Now you worry as Clemson awaits this team, if a tailspin is on the way. Or maybe it's already begun?

Is this just part of the rebuilding process? (Which reminds me of that old line that said a certain moribund franchise was in the 15th year of a five-year rebuilding process.) Or, and I hate to say this -- is the program cursed, and doomed for mediocrity?

Being a cynical optimist, who lived through the Butch Davis rebuild (any one else remember the losses to East Carolina, and the 1997 campaign?), I refuse to believe that. But at a certain point you feel the frustration of nearly two decades of mediocre-to-below-average football.

What's really infuriating is what lead to this loss. Some examples:

- As angry as we all were over Henry Parrish's fumble at the UNC goal line, down 7-0, that's a physical error. Those will happen. Parrish is a guy that always gives great effort, and a solid producer. These things will happen, inevitably. But what's inexcusable are the penalties like the one Keontra Smith got after a drive ending sack from Kam Kinchens.

This is perhaps my biggest issue with the current 'Canes -- they try and act like the 80's team, without the actual talent and results, but without the realization that the ACC officials will police them very closely. Yes, football is a game of emotion and passion, but too many times I see Miami players flirting with danger as they get into opponents faces.

There is a real lack of situational awareness, here. What I've noticed is that they will allow you to celebrate with your teammates, but not taunt your foes. So yeah, go ahead and do a 'Soul Train Line' or 'the Running Man' with your guys, but if you jaw with the opponents, you might get flagged.

The fact our players don't understand that, and that our staff wont discipline them, is maddening.

- Miami was down three scores with under 10 minutes to go, and yet, they were still huddling, running the clock down. Look, I'm not Gary Stevens or Rhett Lashlee, but shouldn't they have been in more up-tempo, and just airing the ball out? Just my view, the time to establish the run had long passed.

- It was a tale of two halves for the Hurricanes defense. First half they rattled the highly touted Drake Maye, hitting and sacking him numerous times. They got home, and Rueben Bain showed why everyone loves his future(and present). But in the second half as they gave up 21 consecutive points, they surrended two touchdowns on 3rd and very longs, that were back breaking plays.

Also they got gashed up the middle in the run game by Omarion Hampton (who ran for 197 yards), and then didn't guard the flats, at all in the third and fourth quarters. Prior to this game, this unit had been stout in plugging the run but they had some real issues in the run fits.

- On a key fourth down situation late in the first half, Lance Guidry, was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct, that gave North Carolina a free first down. Again, the lack of discipline isn't just about the players.

- On the bright side, Brashard Smith and Isaiah Horton may have earned more snaps outside, as they made some plays in the throw game.

So yeah, Miami is now 4-2, and you wonder just how the rest of this season will play out. Coach Cristobal is fond of saying that, ''there are no big things, there are no small things -- a thing is a thing. It all matters."

Tonight, it all mattered.

Sept was such a fun month. I was even fooled thinking we were at least a top 4 ACC team. TOP 4 hahaha
 
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I don’t feel as bad about this loss as I did last week. I felt pretty certain we would lose tonight in the typical Miami fashion ( it’s a big game on prime time so, I think I’ll **** down my leg.)

Besides A&M, when has this team ever showed up to a big game?

I was really shook last week. How do you even lose like that at home to a **** team like Ga Tech that had to fire thier DC five games in.

And No, this is not a part of the “rebuilding” process.
Butch was under sanctions that decimated the roster, and once we got our scholarship back we began improving immediately, game after game and year after year.
Mario is in his 2nd year, with no sanctions, the transfer portal and seemingly all the money and resources he needs, yet still can’t win.

September was just fools gold, as is Mario. JWe had played no one besides A&M, which is not that good and the win was an anomaly.

The team we have seen the last two weeks, is more indicative of where we are as a program.
Conference games, which matter more, filled with penalties, busted coverages, 9 turnovers, and lack of playmakers.

Fact is is we are 0-2 in ACC play and will be 0-3 next week. We are a mediocre.500 team that is marginally better than the 5-7 team we had last year. Forget about September, that was just a mirage, and hate to say it Mario is not rebuilding ****. It’s all just fools gold if you really take a close look at it.
 
Mario is a .500 coach, his record speaks for itself...
 
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If fumbling on the goal line are plays “that will happen” then so will 15 yard penalties. Both are bad and had a hand in the loss.

Guidry’s penalty was a terrible call. Mack was just as mad and angry as Guidry. I’ve seen Saban completely lose it just like every other coach. It was a terrible call by the referees.

Yes, we’ve lost two in a row, but if we can’t see that the program is better right now than at any point under Randy Shannon, Al Golden, and Manny, then we’re completely blind.

The players we are cursing were inherited. JW, Flagg, TVD, Parrish, Couch, Keontra, all were here. Two losses don’t change the plan and the trajectory. Collectively, we said 8-4 and 9-3 were the realistic windows. Clemson and FSU look like losses UVA, BC, NC State, and Louisville get us to 8.

This team does not beat Louisville or NCST right now. So 6-6 is what it looks like to me, unless something changes. Mack Brown told his team Miami is soft, maybe not Charmin, but still soft. Clemson will try to physically dominate us and make us quit. They all know the playbook.
 
I don't disagree. The problem is expecting one person to do it without any safety help over the top. Even when you plan for that, your safety inexplicably gets sucked up by a routing play fake.

I said in the GameDay thread that when he hits the NFL, he's a top 15 or even top 10 WR from jump. There's not many players in college or the pro's you don't need to help with that guy.

just average and fundamentally sound safety plays makes it a closer game last night. It is what it is...
 
Also Diaz left the cupboard even more bare than I thought, we had absolutely nothing for Mario. Mario needs 2 more recruiting classes to start to see significant improvement in the win column. We need a better QB and more depth everywhere and keep improving both lines.

Disappointed in Leonard Taylor at DT. I expected more production from him.

that maybe true, I dont necessarily disagree. However, can we at least do the routine, fundamental things --- AND (this is important), none of the dumb things? That alone will improve results

Miami is not good enough to be two teams (themselves and their foes) at the same time
 
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