DT Jared Goldwire update

Dec 12, 2017

Last week I posted that Miami was feeling confident about their chances with JUCO DT Jared Goldwire and had locked in on him as a junior college target. Goldwire has been a tough guy to get in contact with, but Fort Scott Head Coach Kale Pick gave me some additional info on Goldwire’s recruitment this morning.

Although he has been committed to Louisville since June, Goldwire does not have a visit set for this weekend. This would be his final opportunity to take an official visit because his coach confirmed that he is set to enroll early at the school of his choice. He is planning to sign on December 20th as wel.

Pick said that Goldwire is “on the fence” with Miami and Louisville, however he added that him and his staff have been very impressed in the way the Miami staff has recruited the defensive tackle. UM sources said that Goldwire’s official visit for the Notre Dame game was as good as I‎t could have been.

Update: Miami does not expect Goldwire in their 2018 class.

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brock

Dec 19, 2017

252cane said:
brock said:

252cane said:

brock said:

252cane said:

Where are the 4 high level DTs? How do you know nesta will be ready to play day 1? Is ford ready to go from barely playing to starter? Can bethel hold up inside?

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Bethel has played all season long and has been doing very well. Ford has looked pretty good for a guy who missed all offseason training with the team. I’ve said last year when healthy Gerald Willis was Miami’s most dominant dt last year and Pete echoed that sentiment once again this year a few weeks back. Silvera is arguably the best dt in the country yet he can’t be considered a high level guy? Come tf on...

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Nesta isnt a high level college DT. He is a high level recruit. He hasnt taken a snap in college. You dont know if he will be ready day 1.

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And you don’t know if he won’t be ready either. Kids come in all the time and take over positions. Joe Jackson did it, ed Oliver and Demarcus Lawrence last year.

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Lawerence wasnt depended on to play day 1. He came in and was just so good they had to play him. The problem is we are depending on freshmen at a tough position like DT to come in and be good right away.

As a 4th option next year since Willis, bethel, ford will be established. I can see if you we were expecting him to start, that isn’t the case

252cane

Dec 19, 2017

brock said:
252cane said:

brock said:

252cane said:

brock said:

Bethel has played all season long and has been doing very well. Ford has looked pretty good for a guy who missed all offseason training with the team. I’ve said last year when healthy Gerald Willis was Miami’s most dominant dt last year and Pete echoed that sentiment once again this year a few weeks back. Silvera is arguably the best dt in the country yet he can’t be considered a high level guy? Come tf on...

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Nesta isnt a high level college DT. He is a high level recruit. He hasnt taken a snap in college. You dont know if he will be ready day 1.

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And you don’t know if he won’t be ready either. Kids come in all the time and take over positions. Joe Jackson did it, ed Oliver and Demarcus Lawrence last year.

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Lawerence wasnt depended on to play day 1. He came in and was just so good they had to play him. The problem is we are depending on freshmen at a tough position like DT to come in and be good right away.

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As a 4th option next year since Willis, bethel, ford will be established. I can see if you we were expecting him to start, that isn’t the case

He might have to start. Bethel is 270 and cant be a every down DT. Nesta is going to have to battle ford for a starting spot.

The Franchise

Dec 19, 2017

I don't care much about Goldwire because I was never sold on him. But we **** sure need more DTs. We need someone who is ready to come in and play immediately.

brock

Dec 19, 2017

The Franchise said:
I don't care much about Goldwire because I was never sold on him. But we **** sure need more DTs. We need someone who is ready to come in and play immediately.

See I agree with this, goldwire was far from a cant miss player on the dline and liked several of the dts in this class over him so I dont care about him going to Louisville at all

htownkidd

Dec 19, 2017

Ford will play NT
Willis will be our 3T

Bethel is the first one off the bench. After that it gets ******/unproven/young. Which is why although Goldwire isn’t Mount Cody, he would have brought tremendous size and atleast some experience and would have not forced a true freshman like Silvera into action. Silvera is likely our 4th DT right now, which is scary.

htownkidd

Dec 19, 2017

brock said:
The Franchise said:

I don't care much about Goldwire because I was never sold on him. But we **** sure need more DTs. We need someone who is ready to come in and play immediately.

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See I agree with this, goldwire was far from a cant miss player on the dline and liked several of the dts in this class over him so I dont care about him going to Louisville at all

Except several of those other DT’s that you likes so much over him ain’t coming either, lol.

Dec 19, 2017

Willis, Ford, Bethel, Silvera, Martin, Fines...that's FAU-level depth.

The Franchise

Dec 19, 2017

htownkidd said:
Ford will play NT
Willis will be our 3T

Bethel is the first one off the bench. After that it gets ******/unproven/young. Which is why although Goldwire isn’t Mount Cody, he would have brought tremendous size and atleast some experience and would have not forced a true freshman like Silvera into action. Silvera is likely our 4th DT right now, which is scary.

Some JUCO DTs are no different than true freshmans. It's rare for them to walk in and provide immediate help. And this dude is recovering from a knee injury on top of that.

htownkidd

Dec 19, 2017

The Franchise said:
htownkidd said:

Ford will play NT
Willis will be our 3T

Bethel is the first one off the bench. After that it gets ****ty/unproven/young. Which is why although Goldwire isn’t Mount Cody, he would have brought tremendous size and atleast some experience and would have not forced a true freshman like Silvera into action. Silvera is likely our 4th DT right now, which is scary.

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Some JUCO DTs are no different than true freshmans. It's rare for them to walk in and provide immediate help. And this dude is recovering from a knee injury on top of that.

You are right
But in our situation, I feel like we needed him. Especially after we were fed the BS about us coolin on Briggs because we felt good about Goldwire. Well, now what? Now it looks like we will lose both.

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TallyCane

Dec 19, 2017

everybody knew that the 2018 DT class was weak, they managed to only take one last year. That's a bigger issue than missing on this year.

yeaman

Dec 19, 2017

htownkidd said:
Ford will play NT
Willis will be our 3T

Bethel is the first one off the bench. After that it gets ****ty/unproven/young. Which is why although Goldwire isn’t Mount Cody, he would have brought tremendous size and atleast some experience and would have not forced a true freshman like Silvera into action. Silvera is likely our 4th DT right now, which is scary.

I wouldn't count on Willis like that. Silvera will get snaps regardless. Ford and Bethel need to step it up big time.

The Franchise

Dec 19, 2017

htownkidd said:
The Franchise said:

htownkidd said:

Ford will play NT
Willis will be our 3T

Bethel is the first one off the bench. After that it gets ****ty/unproven/young. Which is why although Goldwire isn’t Mount Cody, he would have brought tremendous size and atleast some experience and would have not forced a true freshman like Silvera into action. Silvera is likely our 4th DT right now, which is scary.

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Some JUCO DTs are no different than true freshmans. It's rare for them to walk in and provide immediate help. And this dude is recovering from a knee injury on top of that.

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You are right
But in our situation, I feel like we needed him. Especially after we were fed the BS about us coolin on Briggs because we felt good about Goldwire. Well, now what? Now it looks like we will lose both.

I was never sold on Goldwire no matter what we were fed. Pretty sure Briggs showed his hand when he told the world he was ready to commit to FSU. I don't know that we cooled on him. Seems the other way around.

Our DT recruiting is looking weak. We need a miracle like a viable grad transfer.

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AdrianP

Dec 19, 2017

rokulika said:
Willis, Ford, Bethel, Silvera, Martin, Fines...that's FAU-level depth.

Bullshi. Every single kid can be an nfl prospect under kul. Hilarious that kul was da gawd a mint ago when we were knocking NOTRE dame into the curb but now dummies want him fired.

htownkidd

Dec 19, 2017

yeaman said:
htownkidd said:

Ford will play NT
Willis will be our 3T

Bethel is the first one off the bench. After that it gets ****ty/unproven/young. Which is why although Goldwire isn’t Mount Cody, he would have brought tremendous size and atleast some experience and would have not forced a true freshman like Silvera into action. Silvera is likely our 4th DT right now, which is scary.

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I wouldn't count on Willis like that. Silvera will get snaps regardless. Ford and Bethel need to step it up big time.

Well, if we can’t count on the most talented DT we will have in 2018 then f*** me.

Dec 19, 2017

Should get back into contact with Chatman

g8rh8rMD

Dec 19, 2017

Peter Ariz said:
Ver said:

I'm thinking Norton coming back

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Nope

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redcane

Dec 19, 2017

So are there any DT that we still have a realistic shot at? Must be some JUCO mercenaries out there still that would love to play under Kool and Diaz.

htownkidd

Dec 19, 2017

The Franchise said:
htownkidd said:

The Franchise said:

htownkidd said:

Ford will play NT
Willis will be our 3T

Bethel is the first one off the bench. After that it gets ****ty/unproven/young. Which is why although Goldwire isn’t Mount Cody, he would have brought tremendous size and atleast some experience and would have not forced a true freshman like Silvera into action. Silvera is likely our 4th DT right now, which is scary.

Click to expand...

Some JUCO DTs are no different than true freshmans. It's rare for them to walk in and provide immediate help. And this dude is recovering from a knee injury on top of that.

Click to expand...

You are right
But in our situation, I feel like we needed him. Especially after we were fed the BS about us coolin on Briggs because we felt good about Goldwire. Well, now what? Now it looks like we will lose both.

Click to expand...

I was never sold on Goldwire no matter what we were fed. Pretty sure Briggs showed his hand when he told the world he was ready to commit to FSU. I don't know that we cooled on him. Seems the other way around.

Our DT recruiting is looking weak. We need a miracle like a viable grad transfer.

Both understatements. We better do something. Even just signing Carson won’t fix the problem because we need numbers and we need to HIT on those guys. We can sign 6 DT’s but if 4 of them are Robert Fines then it’s null.

Guess we’ll see.

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AdrianP

Dec 19, 2017

TallyCane said:
everybody knew that the 2018 DT class was weak, they managed to only take one last year. That's a bigger issue than missing on this year.

How the fu&& should we have taken more? Did you forget what our depth chart looked like at dt in February? No dt stud in America would have wanted to come up with Norton and mcintosh as only JUNIORS. Plus the logjam behind them.

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Cribby

Dec 19, 2017

The Franchise said:
htownkidd said:

The Franchise said:

htownkidd said:

Ford will play NT
Willis will be our 3T

Bethel is the first one off the bench. After that it gets ****ty/unproven/young. Which is why although Goldwire isn’t Mount Cody, he would have brought tremendous size and atleast some experience and would have not forced a true freshman like Silvera into action. Silvera is likely our 4th DT right now, which is scary.

Click to expand...

Some JUCO DTs are no different than true freshmans. It's rare for them to walk in and provide immediate help. And this dude is recovering from a knee injury on top of that.

Click to expand...

You are right
But in our situation, I feel like we needed him. Especially after we were fed the BS about us coolin on Briggs because we felt good about Goldwire. Well, now what? Now it looks like we will lose both.

Click to expand...

I was never sold on Goldwire no matter what we were fed. Pretty sure Briggs showed his hand when he told the world he was ready to commit to FSU. I don't know that we cooled on him. Seems the other way around.

Our DT recruiting is looking weak. We need a miracle like a viable grad transfer.

Even if we shockingly land three studs they're still true fr playing the one position you need grown men at.

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