Diaz bringing NEW tackling style?

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I'm into results. If we see other team on ground quickly all is fine. If not, then Diaz has to go and go quickly. Personally, I want defense to deliver pain. That pain has huge benefits in 4th quarter.

There is a lot more slamming, or so it looks like, with the hawk tackle technique. I'm sure (if it works) the new technique will pay-off in the 4th quarter too.

Also, yeah safer, true. As a spectator who has no chance of suffering a concussion while watching the game, I LOVE that sound of someone just getting WRECKED (but not injured). I hope we still get some of that.

I know football is dangerous but the strangest thing is that I played football, baseball, basketball and tennis. The only one I never got hurt in was football. Loss teeth in basketball, spiked and fractured breastplate in baseball, wrecked both knees and an ankle playing tennis for exercise -- maybe a couple bruises in football. Of course I played Dline long ago when the rules favored it more, so I was more likely to have caused injuries.

I hate seeing players hurt; well maybe not so much if they are gators, noles, irish or bucknuts, but in general. However, I love old Canes football and hope these news guys bring us something that reminds us of those days. I just can't take anymore of what we have been seeing.
 
Seems like it would be hard to field a physical defense with this technique. (at least on the back 7) But then again, Seattle's doing it, so...

My only problem with tackling legs is that leg's move. RB's are chopping their feet, raising their knees, high stepping, etc etc etc. Leg's are violent and tend to be hard to grasp. You're also not gonna create many turnovers grabbing at legs. Fumbles are forced when you tackle the torso.

Honestly, I can see pros and cons with this technique. But maybe it is a better way. I'd like to learn more about it.

Watch a rugby game. They bring tackling to an art form and they don't shy from contact either. You don't seem to hear the same injuries occurring in rugby which is a very physical sport with no padding for protection. I think it makes sense and explains why Diaz was having these guys start tackling early w/o pads when Spring practice began.
 
This reeks of the genius QB coach trying to change a QBs throwing motion. It rarely works.

I'd rather see the defensive coaches teaching better tackling techniques within the traditional framework. It should be easier for a professional team with unlimited practice time to learn a whole new method of tackling than a college team with a 20 hour max.

Diaz seems like one of those guys who is exceptionally smart who assumes that everyone should be able to pick things up as quickly as he does.
 
Seems like it would be hard to field a physical defense with this technique. (at least on the back 7) But then again, Seattle's doing it, so...

My only problem with tackling legs is that leg's move. RB's are chopping their feet, raising their knees, high stepping, etc etc etc. Leg's are violent and tend to be hard to grasp. You're also not gonna create many turnovers grabbing at legs. Fumbles are forced when you tackle the torso.

Honestly, I can see pros and cons with this technique. But maybe it is a better way. I'd like to learn more about it.

Watch a rugby game. They bring tackling to an art form and they don't shy from contact either. You don't seem to hear the same injuries occurring in rugby which is a very physical sport with no padding for protection. I think it makes sense and explains why Diaz was having these guys start tackling early w/o pads when Spring practice began.
Two things: You don't hear a lot about injuries in rugby because no one cares about or talks about rugby. Two, rugby players are proficient in their technique because that's what they've been playing all their lives, and there aren't any Adrian Petersons in rugby that they're trying to tackle.
 
What's new? I was teaching youth to tackle with their shoulder pads and even told their parents I don't want to see a kid paralyzed because he use his head. I played in the late 70's and it was always "put your pads on them, head out front". This BS about reinventing ain't nothing but NFL propaganda because it was standard practice for them to make players play or threatened their jobs. Who teaches kids to tackle with their heads? Wrap up and stop trying to cut guys legs out, simple as that.
 
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I knew when my kids came home from school talking about "new math" that we were screwed.
 
Seems like it would be hard to field a physical defense with this technique. (at least on the back 7) But then again, Seattle's doing it, so...

My only problem with tackling legs is that leg's move. RB's are chopping their feet, raising their knees, high stepping, etc etc etc. Leg's are violent and tend to be hard to grasp. You're also not gonna create many turnovers grabbing at legs. Fumbles are forced when you tackle the torso.

Honestly, I can see pros and cons with this technique. But maybe it is a better way. I'd like to learn more about it.

Watch a rugby game. They bring tackling to an art form and they don't shy from contact either. You don't seem to hear the same injuries occurring in rugby which is a very physical sport with no padding for protection. I think it makes sense and explains why Diaz was having these guys start tackling early w/o pads when Spring practice began.
Two things: You don't hear a lot about injuries in rugby because no one cares about or talks about rugby. Two, rugby players are proficient in their technique because that's what they've been playing all their lives, and there aren't any Adrian Petersons in rugby that they're trying to tackle.

this is true...but you can always do a quick google search. All kinds of stuff being written comparing the two. And football seems to be taking some notice.

Concussions: Rugby Can Help Football | ThePostGame
 
There are freaks all over the modern game of rugby and I am not talking about the weak *** rugby they play in the USA. Players are bigger and faster than ever.

Concussions are a big concern in most contact sports. Even Nascar is dealing with it.
 
I think in the open field Hawk tackling is the way to go - fewer whiffs, I'd imagine. In the proverbial trenches (channeling my inner PowerT guysm) you go for center mass every time, IMO.
 
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Diaz is priming everyone for a ****** season defensively. His teams were terrible at tackling.
 
Diaz is priming everyone for a ****ty season defensively. His teams were terrible at tackling.

I'm starting to agree with you on this.... The Seahawks didn't have Diaz teaching it to them they had Pete Carroll and Dan Quinn ( former seahawks DC/ now Falcons HC). Doesn't matter if a technique works before if better coaches are teaching it.

Diaz may just suck at teaching this style of tackling / seems like its his "thing" that he can't let go / that's going to hold the team back in the end, similar to Golden and Doritos 3-4 whatever tf that was patty cake defense.
 
So we finally give the players a defensive scheme that they don't have to think much in, but then we give them something to think about each time they go to tackle a guy?

Ugh - my Texas friend warned me that, "you'll love the things Diaz says but you'll hate the results."

The Pros to Hawk Tackling: You can practice it everyday, without pads too.
The Cons to Hawk Tackling: Gives the players something to think about, and changes the way they've done something all their lives.

Side note though - Ohio St made the change in 2013 with the guidance of Coach Ash and Meyer (who had to be convinced), and they went on to win the 2014 title the next year and both gave great credit to their improvements in the tackling department.
 
Seems like it would be hard to field a physical defense with this technique. (at least on the back 7) But then again, Seattle's doing it, so...

My only problem with tackling legs is that leg's move. RB's are chopping their feet, raising their knees, high stepping, etc etc etc. Leg's are violent and tend to be hard to grasp. You're also not gonna create many turnovers grabbing at legs. Fumbles are forced when you tackle the torso.

Honestly, I can see pros and cons with this technique. But maybe it is a better way. I'd like to learn more about it.

Watch a rugby game. They bring tackling to an art form and they don't shy from contact either. You don't seem to hear the same injuries occurring in rugby which is a very physical sport with no padding for protection. I think it makes sense and explains why Diaz was having these guys start tackling early w/o pads when Spring practice began.
Two things: You don't hear a lot about injuries in rugby because no one cares about or talks about rugby. Two, rugby players are proficient in their technique because that's what they've been playing all their lives, and there aren't any Adrian Petersons in rugby that they're trying to tackle.

this is true...but you can always do a quick google search. All kinds of stuff being written comparing the two. And football seems to be taking some notice.

Concussions: Rugby Can Help Football | ThePostGame

That is perfect example. Best way to stop using the head as a weapon? Go back to the leather helmet days. They'll stop sticking that head where it don't belong. Simple.
 
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Eyes through the thighs wrap and roll! Youth football 101. I'm sure our guys will figure this out. Many coaches teach the Seahawks technique.
 
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So we finally give the players a defensive scheme that they don't have to think much in, but then we give them something to think about each time they go to tackle a guy?

Ugh - my Texas friend warned me that, "you'll love the things Diaz says but you'll hate the results."

The Pros to Hawk Tackling: You can practice it everyday, without pads too.
The Cons to Hawk Tackling: Gives the players something to think about, and changes the way they've done something all their lives.

Side note though - Ohio St made the change in 2013 with the guidance of Coach Ash and Meyer (who had to be convinced), and they went on to win the 2014 title the next year and both gave great credit to their improvements in the tackling department.


I don't expect Diaz to last long here. He's going to be under an enormous amount of scrutiny just bc the fact he succeeds Donofrio. He seems to talk a good talk, but so far we have heard nothing but negatives from his side
Of the ball.

We will know by the first real opponent if he is the right guy.
 
Seems like it would be hard to field a physical defense with this technique. (at least on the back 7) But then again, Seattle's doing it, so...

My only problem with tackling legs is that leg's move. RB's are chopping their feet, raising their knees, high stepping, etc etc etc. Leg's are violent and tend to be hard to grasp. You're also not gonna create many turnovers grabbing at legs. Fumbles are forced when you tackle the torso.

Honestly, I can see pros and cons with this technique. But maybe it is a better way. I'd like to learn more about it.

Watch a rugby game. They bring tackling to an art form and they don't shy from contact either. You don't seem to hear the same injuries occurring in rugby which is a very physical sport with no padding for protection. I think it makes sense and explains why Diaz was having these guys start tackling early w/o pads when Spring practice began.
Two things: You don't hear a lot about injuries in rugby because no one cares about or talks about rugby. Two, rugby players are proficient in their technique because that's what they've been playing all their lives, and there aren't any Adrian Petersons in rugby that they're trying to tackle.

this is true...but you can always do a quick google search. All kinds of stuff being written comparing the two. And football seems to be taking some notice.

Concussions: Rugby Can Help Football | ThePostGame

That is perfect example. Best way to stop using the head as a weapon? Go back to the leather helmet days. They'll stop sticking that head where it don't belong. Simple.

Going back to leather helmets is the best way to get your neck snapped... This isn't 1903 with 115lb 5'6" football players.
 
Yep. With practice our 7-9 boys can execute this so I don't really think this is what Diaz is referring too. I actually think that Diaz is speaking more generally about our guys not being able to tackle period. If you watch Walton's long run off right tackle our CB Jackson #28 was right there to make the stop for no gain or a short gain, but he makes a poor tackle and Walton was off to the races. In another clip, Chocolate makes almost the exact same run and CB Henley #21 appears to break down to early and then attempts to lunge rather than close the distance before breaking down and striking. It happens. Funny how fundamental football is so similar at all levels.

Eyes through the thighs wrap and roll!

It's drive for 5 actually..not roll

One of the tackles is eyes through thighs, wrap, and roll. "Hawk Roll"
 
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