****y Cardinals

[bear]

I actually like the fact that most are expecting us to lose. On one hand it will keep us from being complacent and unfocused.

I like others think Duke is a mayor piece that we did not have when we played them last year.

Expect Kaaya to be up and down especially of their D throws confusing coverage schemes but Kaaya has enough weapons at his disposal.

We need improvement from our D (obviously) but I don't see how we can get any worst with some players gone and the new ones obviously supposed to be better.

Our kicking game worries me so I hope it does not come down to a FG.

Coaches have to unleash weapons, and anger because if we play prevent D or tentative O we will be in for heap of trouble.

Having said that I think this IS a huge game as far as attitude from both players and coaches and want to see a fired up, angry, and nasty team.

I really think we will win...

 

[Miami82]

Is there a way to handicap for the talent differential? They lost a lot with the draft and we have our youth more experienced plus some key players through recruiting even though they are young it improved our depth.

 

[MiamiVille]

They might very well beat us, but they're ****y pieces of ****. They have a thread on there where they basically say the ACC sucks except them and FSU, while they couldn't even win their crap conference last year.

1 poster put that up and pretty much got blasted for it. Please don't make it sound like Card Nation as a whole believe that crap

Some others agreed with him, but that doesn't change my view of Louisville fans. Read every other thread on that board. They are are ****y, and classless. I see you likely live there, but sorry, it's quite apparent from their board. They have "little school/program" syndrome. They think they're big time because they won a few big games, had a couple of nice seasons, but in reality, they've done nothing nationally. They're not even close to Va Tech as a program.

I actually live in Naples and Louisville ' s record including sugar, orange and fiesta bowl wins.....All wins I might add speak for itself. Nationally of late, Louisville has been more relevant than Miami so you need to just stop with that foolishness.

For the record I'm a fan of both schools but I just had to respond when you were trying to make everyone here believe Louisville fans were trashing the ACC over on their scout forum which was a lie.

 

[Utoronto]

We have to survive their early energy advantage to open the game. It's a FAR, or Fury of Anti-Revenge game. Louisville is going to be incredibly motivated to smack us in the mouth again to reassert the pecking order. That's what happens when a team wins a high profile game on the road or neutral site, particularly if it's an upset or by large margin, and then quickly faces the same team again, but this time at home. The road team assumes it owns the motivational edge based on simpleton revenge. Anti revenge at home is exponentially more powerful, especially early in the season before other variables intervene.

I've bet this angle in the first half since discovering it in 1988. Obviously nothing works every time. But the percentage of covers and number of lopsided wins is startling, far beyond any other angle I've uncovered. It worked easily yesterday in the USC vs. Fresno State game. That's another example of a team winning a lopsided bowl game as small favorite and then hosting the same team to open the season. Early demolition.

I discovered the angle based on Miami's 31-0 shut out of top ranked Florida State in the 1988 opener. The Canes had rallied from 19-3 down to upset the Seminoles 26-25 on the road en route to the national title a year earlier. Miami had so much intensity and ferocity in that 1988 game I realized it had to be a situational variable involved. Didn't take long to figure it out. The home team was enraged that the visitor assumed it could march into their place and take something back, solely due to pathetic fragile revenge.

Suddenly dozens of prior results made sense, college and pro. I was annoyed that I had failed to identify this trend for so many years. The problem is that the media spends so much time fixating on revenge that nobody fails to examine the situations in which revenge doesn't work. Seemingly every losing bettor I know in Las Vegas relies on revenge.

The great aspect of this angle is you can isolate the games months in advance. I remember when UCLA went to Texas in the mid to late '90s and scored something like 65 or 70 points while winning huge as a big underdog. Texas with Ricky Williams yapped about revenge for a full year, since they had a game at UCLA the following season. Meanwhile, UCLA was so energized in the Rose Bowl they put up 28 points almost immediately in the rematch. I was howling. My favorite recent example was Oregon at Boise State in the opener a few years ago. Same thing. Oregon mouthed off after losing at home to Boise State the prior season. Boise State was so energized in the rematch that Oregon basically couldn't manage a first down in the first half. I don't remember the specifics but they didn't have more than 1 or 2 first downs at halftime. Boise State was shattering the backfield and Chip Kelly was in shock, unaware of the situational scenario he inherited for his first game. That was the LeGarrette Blount post game punch game. Many more examples, too many to detail. Several pro games stood out. Remember when Tomlinson whined after New England celebrated on the San Diego field after pulling out an emotional playoff game? New England hosted San Diego on Monday Night in game two the following year. I couldn't wait. Sure enough, the Patriots shattered San Diego from the outset of the first half.

When this angle fails, it's generally due to talent differential that has changed radically since the prior game. That's our hope tomorrow. It's possible we trump Louisville in basic manpower and their early energy and motivational edge will be quickly nullified. It might help that we have a freshman quarterback. He doesn't know or care anything about that bowl result. If he's rattled and ineffective early he can write it off to early jitters and not anything the opponent is doing.

I merely wanted to point out this angle for anyone who wants to use it down the road. The good news is that the FAR advantage tends to wear off in the second half. Sometimes it's a dramatic reversal once the home team has used up all the frantic energy. You'll remember last season when Stanford dominated Oregon for the vast majority of the game and then tried to give it away in the final 8 minutes. That was another FAR game, albeit deeper into the season. Stanford had upset Oregon in overtime on the road in 2012 as two touchdown underdogs, ruining Oregon's national championship hopes. It was hardly surprising when Stanford pushed Oregon all around in the home FAR rematch and took a 26-0 lead. Then Stanford ran out of steam and barely held on, 26-20.

I have friends in Las Vegas who bet the home team in the first half when these FAR situations show up, and often turn around and wager on the road team at halftime. Very profitable. I sometimes hesitate to mention stuff like this on non-gambling websites because the overwhelming tendency is to use the one immediate example and overreact to the extreme based on the result. That's what bar stool types do. Gamblers understand the value of long term volume and an edge.

 

[The Franchise]

We're gonna hang half a hundo on them. It's coming. Anyone who thinks this situation is even remotely similar to the bowl game after the massive changes with both programs since then is retarded.

 

[DJWilliams55]

I hope their ****** ****** punter tries to slap one of our kids again.

Boy comes near you, Artie....you punch that bish right in the Adams Apple.

Preferably with brass knuckles under your gloves.

I'd like to see him coughing up blood and ENT specialists rushing onto the field to save him from choking on his own blood.

It's time for some ******* savagery fellas. We can afford a few penalties.

I want Petrino to be the one who is calling us ******** and pricks.

 

[The Franchise]

Grantham stands a much bigger chance of confusing his own defense than he does of confusing our offense.

 

[Notsince1985]

They might very well beat us, but they're ****y pieces of ****. They have a thread on there where they basically say the ACC sucks except them and FSU, while they couldn't even win their crap conference last year.

1 poster put that up and pretty much got blasted for it. Please don't make it sound like Card Nation as a whole believe that crap

Some others agreed with him, but that doesn't change my view of Louisville fans. Read every other thread on that board. They are are ****y, and classless. I see you likely live there, but sorry, it's quite apparent from their board. They have "little school/program" syndrome. They think they're big time because they won a few big games, had a couple of nice seasons, but in reality, they've done nothing nationally. They're not even close to Va Tech as a program.

I actually live in Naples and Louisville ' s record including sugar, orange and fiesta bowl wins.....All wins I might add speak for itself. Nationally of late, Louisville has been more relevant than Miami so you need to just stop with that foolishness.

For the record I'm a fan of both schools but I just had to respond when you were trying to make everyone here believe Louisville fans were trashing the ACC over on their scout forum which was a lie.

It's no foolishness. Louisville has been better than Miami the last couple of years, but let's not pretend that they've been head and shoulders above Miami for the entire time Miami has been down. Did you forget they were 4-8 in 2009? 5-7 in 2008? 7-6 in 2010? 7-6 in 2011? And these bowls? Yeah, they went to 1 Fiesta Bowl....in 1990. They went to 1 Orange Bowl, in 2006, and beat Wake Forest. They went to 1 Sugar Bowl, in 2012. Louisville has had 2 good years, 2012, and 2013 recently. Before that, they were average to crap. They were good from around 2003-2006, and their best team, 2004, lost to a 9-3 Miami team. Before that, they were average to crap. They were good around 1990, when Schnelly was there, before that, they were horrible.

 

[[]_[]Fan2010]

I didn't start this thread bc I think we should be favorites. I just don't get the arrogance. Bridgewater made that offense move, Morris made ours stop more often than not. If katana can hit check downs every once in a while I think our athletes at the skill positions are capable of picking up an extra 2-3 yards more often than not. There's no doubt we'll see growing pains with Kayaa but I don't think we even really appreciate how much Morris' one read hurt us and our ability to move the ball. We shall see in a little more than 24hrs

 

[Canefan235]

Last time I checked Petrino is not suiting up and that's the freakin' difference.

 

[Notsince1985]

Oh, and, by the way, this thread is linked on the UL board, so.....

 

[UMFarArcher]

Just checking out the UL Scout board(yeah, I'm bored) and literally none of them are giving us a chance. Yeah we got smashed in the bowl game but we no longer have 1 read sack/throw away Morris and have both Duke and Dorsett back. They lost a Top 3 QB and won't have their no 1 wr or rb. Both qbs have about the same experience in collegiate games as far as I'm aware. Also, they're installing a 3-4 and this is the first game they'll be using it.

Am I missing something?

Dorito.

 

[cubin10]

No one is picking the Canes. Herbie, Corso, the a$$holes on CFB daily, Tim Brando, Cowherd all picked the Cards. The only one I saw pick the Canes was Stone Cold Steve Austin which is pretty awesome.

All of them said the same thing, Miami is starting a true freshman QB on the road against a team that b fvcked us 6 months ago and now had Booby P. Pretty sound logic. I just want this game to start already. Canes 35- Lv - 31

And that's the bottom line, 'cause Stone Cold says so.

I would have felt a lot more comfortable if Stone Cold said it twice or squashed at least two beer cans, just sayin.

 

[4Canes]

Duke Johnson.

 

[cardinalfan123]

That 3-4 they are switching to is going to be a mess, for that reason alone were going to win. Switching to a 3-4 can be a bumpy process

IIRC they are switching to a 3-4 not from a 4-3 but from a 3-3-5. Don't know if this is as drastic a change, e.g., in the size of the LBs required, etc. hey lucane any thoughts/analysis?

Our defense last year was a base 4-3 but we also ran a lot of 3-4 and 3-3-5 and 4-2-5 depending on the down. This year our defense is a base 3-4 but Grantham has said in interviews we'll line up in the 4-3 as well depending on the situation.

 

[ProjectMKUltra5]

That 3-4 they are switching to is going to be a mess, for that reason alone were going to win. Switching to a 3-4 can be a bumpy process

IIRC they are switching to a 3-4 not from a 4-3 but from a 3-3-5. Don't know if this is as drastic a change, e.g., in the size of the LBs required, etc. hey lucane any thoughts/analysis?

I dont know much about the 3-3-5 but if i remember right the lineman do alot of stunting and shooting gaps so i think smaller, quicker lineman are the requirement. I dont know much more about it then that

 

[HarveyGlass]

Nothing but respect to Miami from this Cardfan, but I'm gonna try and explain the arrogance.

Here's the thing guys, this game for UofL is much, much bigger than Miami. It really wouldn't matter what ACC team we're playing tomorrow because whomever it would be would have no idea of what they are walking into. It's a convergence of scenarios that are all aligning at exactly the right time...

*First ACC Game Ever.
Joining a real conference and having a seat at the bigboys table is something we've been fighting for for over three decades. As a program, we've had to claw and scratch for every single shred of respect and attention, not just nationally, but locally, in a UK/basketball dominated state that refused to acknowledge we even existed. Tomorrow's game will be a celebration, and a validation that we have arrived, so to speak. We're ready for the ACC.

*Bobby's Back
This is almost as massive to us as #1. The guy who took us to our highest level ever is back and for what some think may be an extended stay(I'm not sure I agree with that personally). We had our most exciting times with BP around and that energy and passion has returned with him. Even without the rest of the reasons on this list this would be cause for a hype atmosphere. We're ready for Bobby Ball.

*We're playing Miami
Nuff said. But I'll say more. Ever since Howard we've wanted to be what Miami is. An urban school in a city(as opposed to a college town in the boonies) that has had to earn praise(and villainy) the hard way. Our game in 2004 at the Orange Bowl is still talked about as perhaps our greatest and most satisfying loss ever. We know what a benchmark beating the Hurricanes is and we're ready to make that mark.

*Lots of Experienced Returning Talent
This has been severely overlooked by everyone who has only looked skin deep at our roster. People say we don't bring back any starters on defense but we actually return quite a bit of part-time starters and even a guy that started in 2012 but sat out last year with injury. Strong was a helluva recruiter and we've got serious talent all over the field, on both sides. And they're experienced. And they're proven winners. They know what it takes to prepare and what it takes to beat top-flight competition.

*National TV - Only Game On
Monday night, prime-time, everybody in the country will be watching and hoping we fail(via Bobby)...Our players and coaches have been staring at this night for **** near half a year. They want to unleash what Charlie Strong held back so, so many times in the past 4 years.

*Blackout
Yeah it's cheesy but black is one of our primary colors(as opposed to a "cool" gimmick ) and Strong literally refused to allow the team to wear black during his tenure. It's kind of a big deal here. lol

*First Game of the Season
We're ready.


Like I said, we, as a school and city have nothing but respect for the U and I just wanted to give my take on the confidence. Good luck to your guys, they'll need it.
http://thecebe.com

 

[BoroCane83]

If FSU loses, this is our league for the taking. The ACC needs a definitive leader and if they won't do it, we will.

Yeah they are definitely feeling themselves right now. Can't wait for tomorrow.

In their defense...the fans who live in our reality quickly came in an check those spewing that BS as being delusional. All teams has those fans I suppose.

Team from ACC won the NC last year. ACC needs a definitive leader. Sound logic.

 

[AboutTheU05]

I do not give a **** about this no history or championship having group of hillbilly butt ****ers known as the Louisville Cardinals. I also don't give a **** that Brad Kaaya is a true freshman and this game is being played in a pizza bin in Kentucky. This is Al Golden's 4th year at the University of Miami with a more talented squad than these sorry wannabes. There are no ******* excuses what so ever for losing this game, if he does he more than likely loses this team early and establishes once and for all that he can't develop talent worth a ****. Win or get the **** out of my face, this is Louisville we are talking about not a legitimate big time college football program. I'm tired of this ****, these programs legacies don't even exist in the same universe. Win or GTFO cause your time is about up Al.

 

[Miami82]

Nothing but respect to Miami from this Cardfan, but I'm gonna try and explain the arrogance.

Here's the thing guys, this game for UofL is much, much bigger than Miami. It really wouldn't matter what ACC team we're playing tomorrow because whomever it would be would have no idea of what they are walking into. It's a convergence of scenarios that are all aligning at exactly the right time...

*First ACC Game Ever.
Joining a real conference and having a seat at the bigboys table is something we've been fighting for for over three decades. As a program, we've had to claw and scratch for every single shred of respect and attention, not just nationally, but locally, in a UK/basketball dominated state that refused to acknowledge we even existed. Tomorrow's game will be a celebration, and a validation that we have arrived, so to speak. We're ready for the ACC.

*Bobby's Back
This is almost as massive to us as #1. The guy who took us to our highest level ever is back and for what some think may be an extended stay(I'm not sure I agree with that personally). We had our most exciting times with BP around and that energy and passion has returned with him. Even without the rest of the reasons on this list this would be cause for a hype atmosphere. We're ready for Bobby Ball.

*We're playing Miami
Nuff said. But I'll say more. Ever since Howard we've wanted to be what Miami is. An urban school in a city(as opposed to a college town in the boonies) that has had to earn praise(and villainy) the hard way. Our game in 2004 at the Orange Bowl is still talked about as perhaps our greatest and most satisfying loss ever. We know what a benchmark beating the Hurricanes is and we're ready to make that mark.

*Lots of Experienced Returning Talent
This has been severely overlooked by everyone who has only looked skin deep at our roster. People say we don't bring back any starters on defense but we actually return quite a bit of part-time starters and even a guy that started in 2012 but sat out last year with injury. Strong was a helluva recruiter and we've got serious talent all over the field, on both sides. And they're experienced. And they're proven winners. They know what it takes to prepare and what it takes to beat top-flight competition.

*National TV - Only Game On
Monday night, prime-time, everybody in the country will be watching and hoping we fail(via Bobby)...Our players and coaches have been staring at this night for **** near half a year. They want to unleash what Charlie Strong held back so, so many times in the past 4 years.

*Blackout
Yeah it's cheesy but black is one of our primary colors(as opposed to a "cool" gimmick ) and Strong literally refused to allow the team to wear black during his tenure. It's kind of a big deal here. lol

*First Game of the Season
We're ready.


Like I said, we, as a school and city have nothing but respect for the U and I just wanted to give my take on the confidence. Good luck to your guys, they'll need it.
http://thecebe.com

We will be the most talented team on the field and it isn't even close. Head to Head I give it to Petrino against Dorito, I give Coley the edge with the weapons we have on offense. IF we play D like we did last year, this will be a battle till the final drive. If we play aggressive and let the dogs loose we will win by 10.