Wow the 4 & 3 Notre Dame play was illegal.

Here is what I think we learned from this loss. Our offense is more Dynamic than we think
Speaking for yourself. People on this board have been beating that drum since the spring. We wasted a half because we wanted to do things we just arent good at this year. Our OL is mid but our QB and skill positions are the best in the nation and we need to showcase that. This is not last year's offense.
 
Don’t we play this Saturday? Why are we spending so much time on a game that happened already and the result is determined?
I know, I know, sorry about that. I’m going to suit up and go practice for Duke right away…
 
Go beat Duke, VT, BC and go win the ACC.
Yes, let's do these things. Win out the next 4 games, and at worst, we'll play in the opening round against the G5 representative, which might be a good thing for staying sharp, but my guess is more losses will happen with schools ahead of us and we'll get a bye, which will be good for getting guys healthy.
 
Yes, let's do these things. Win out the next 4 games, and at worst, we'll play in the opening round against the G5 representative, which might be a good thing for staying sharp, but my guess is more losses will happen with schools ahead of us and we'll get a bye, which will be good for getting guys healthy.
Just 1-0. Nothing else is in our hands.
 
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I think the 3 yard rule in college is stupid. This pic is from Notre Dame's second touchdown where they ran a play action pass. Look at how far their offensive lineman is upfield pretending to be a run blocker. Chase Smith has to respect the run. I like the 1 yard in the NFL better.
 
To be honest - it looks like the TE is lined up in a wing position, not on the line of scrimmage.


That's wrong. Look at the video. His feet are in the same lateral position as the tackle on the other side of the line.

So either the tackle is not on the line of scrimmage, or the tight end is.

Both the tackle and the tight end have their feet on the white line:


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Not illegal because he wasn’t beyond the line of scrimmage by 3 yards. That’s like saying a lineman can’t run to the flats for a screen play.


Bull****. It was 4th and 3 (let's call it 2.5) and he was FOUR YARDS (let's call it 3.5) downfield.


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Wow Coach Hayes caught something important. The tight end was covered up and he should have never been able to go out for a pass.

The refs job is to all ways count the line of scrimmage
I could be wrong, and I posted about it on Sunday, but I also thought there was an illegal pic or rub on whoever was guarding the back out of the backfield
It was not a pick. It was legit
So the wr can block the db and the pass is completed like 7 yards downfield? That doesn’t seem to be the same as a screen play. He caught the ball well past 3 yards down field
 
In your own screenshot the TE is inside the 3 yard window with the ball in the air. Black line is at the 43 yard line and his full body minus a foot is outside the 40. NFL is 1 yard, college is 3 yards.


The black line is not official, the ball was spotted at the 43.5 yard line. The call was 4th and 3, and the line to gain was EXACTLY the 41 yard line. The tight end got to the 40. Last time I checked, 3.5 yards is not "inside the 3 yard window".
 
Is he covered up? Don’t think so


You're still wrong.

The right tackle has his foot on the 40. The tight end has his foot on the 40. Either the tackle is NOT on the line (penalty) or the tight end IS on the line (penalty).

You need to be consistent. The RT and the TE are either both on the line or they are both NOT on the line. Pick your poison, and then drink it.
 
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His foot is on the line. You aren't going to get a flag for him being beyond the 3yards when the majority of his body is inside it. AS for the contact, that was the LBer making contact with him.


Again, the black line was a TV thing. The ball was snapped a half yard behind the black line. By your own screenshot, that is 4th and TWO, not 4th and THREE. The yellow line IS ACCURATE, because it corresponds to where the first down marker is.

But the black line is arbitrary. AND WRONG.
 
I also believe the TE was not on the LOS and was eligible on that play. You want to nitpick the calls, go for it. I’m not going to feign outrage over that call when I watched the other three get blown that were far more egregious. I also watched us suck for the first 35 minutes of the game and spot them a 21 point lead.


Just look at the picture. Both the RT and TE have their feet on the 40. We have to be consistent. Either the RT is not on the line...or the TE IS on the line. But they are lined up in the same lateral position.

The only difference is the RT is more "upright" and preparing to block, thus his *** is not sticking back as far, while the TE is crouched lower to go out for a pass, and his *** sticks back farther.

If you need any additional commentary on men's asses, Trump can help out.
 
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