Win the coastal

[cleveland cane]

That's all you hear from these kids coaching staff and fake James. Maybe someone needs to remind James and co there are 5 national championship trophies Miami holds. Win the coastal is like the Yankees settling for the wild card game.

 

[daddacane]

But But But the Yankees win their Wild Card and have a few pennants and world series rings to show for excellence..Al still wearing his wedding ring..

 

[ball915]

How can we expect a national championship when we've never even won the division of the ACC yet alone the conference?

Might be in the minority here but actually have no issue with the Coastal goal. It is something that is obtainable and sadly would be considered an accomplishment in our 11 year tenure in ACC. However, it is realistic and you want your team buying into something that is realistic. Should it be the standard? No, as we aren't Wake Forest of UVA but let's not take the boom or bust approach when the boom is uncharted territory for this program. Build off of the Coastal into winning the ACC then competing for National Titles. All of this is on the macro level and sadly in year 5 should not be focusing on the Coastal. However, based on where we are with the roster we have, the goal is reasonable.

 

[TreOFive]

How can we expect a national championship when we've never even won the division of the ACC yet alone the conference?

Might be in the minority here but actually have no issue with the Coastal goal. It is something that is obtainable and sadly would be considered an accomplishment in our 11 year tenure in ACC. However, it is realistic and you want your team buying into something that is realistic. Should it be the standard? No, as we aren't Wake Forest of UVA but let's not take the boom or bust approach when the boom is uncharted territory for this program. Build off of the Coastal into winning the ACC then competing for National Titles. All of this is on the macro level and sadly in year 5 should not be focusing on the Coastal. However, based on where we are with the roster we have, the goal is reasonable.

If they would articulate it this way then I would have no problem with the "win the coastal" goal. but these POS have lowered the bar at Miami in so many ways. I wish nothing but misery and pain to any and all who have contributed to hiring AG, extending his contract, not firing him etc. **** all of them!!!

 

[canesrdynamite]

This is the heart of the problem. Al says our goal is to win the coastal. Blake says our goal is to win the coastal. It's a middle of the midmajors mentality.

Nobody has said since Al's first freakin news conference that the goal is to win national championships and to do that we will need to win our conference and as a byproduct our division. It's a box that you check, not a major accomplishment for an elite program. I can guarantee you that nobody in Utah's locker room is talking about winning their division as a goal, and they have how many rings?

 

[KingRon2]

The summer after Al was hired he came to Jacksonville to speak to the fan club. I was given one of the first opportunities at the microphone and this is what I said to him:

"Coach Golden, the Miami fan base is an unusual bunch. Most of us did not graduate from the school but somewhere along the line we adopted this program as our own. We judge success by winning national championships. Nothing else matters. We are not Florida. Our goal is not to win the east, or in our case, the coastal. We expect more. How do you expect to deal with that?"

He answered the question by saying he too has lofty goals and the Miami brand is a national brand,etc. my buddy pointed out later in the evening that when Golden realized what I was saying he looked like he was going to **** himself. Like he was just getting ready to say his goal was to win the coastal and then I pulled the rug out from under him. I didn't really pick up on it at the time.

Now here we sit. And as minor as that goal is, if we win the coastal this man will keep his job. He will have met the goal and probably won 9 games in the process.

I will never root against my team. Can't bring myself to do so. But there definitely is no joy in Mudville. The might canes have struck out with this AD and coach.

 

[tomi]

Anyone who says the goal is to win the coastal deserves to be banned from anything UM athletics related

 

[[]_[] swag]

How can we expect a national championship when we've never even won the division of the ACC yet alone the conference?

Might be in the minority here but actually have no issue with the Coastal goal. It is something that is obtainable and sadly would be considered an accomplishment in our 11 year tenure in ACC. However, it is realistic and you want your team buying into something that is realistic. Should it be the standard? No, as we aren't Wake Forest of UVA but let's not take the boom or bust approach when the boom is uncharted territory for this program. Build off of the Coastal into winning the ACC then competing for National Titles. All of this is on the macro level and sadly in year 5 should not be focusing on the Coastal. However, based on where we are with the roster we have, the goal is reasonable.

If they would articulate it this way then I would have no problem with the "win the coastal" goal. but these POS have lowered the bar at Miami in so many ways. I wish nothing but misery and pain to any and all who have contributed to hiring AG, extending his contract, not firing him etc. **** all of them!!!

They probably assume you would understand that. We have 2 losses already. People are getting angry hearing that our goal is to win the division. The goal is coastal this year, acc champ the next as we return everyone. Probably what golden sold everyone on to stay an extra year.

We'd have to have a **** good rest of the season to win the acc coastal.

 

[PuertoRiCane]

The goal is to compete in games. And show good sportsmanship.

 

[Klamalama]

Look people, Fraulden ain't winning the Coastal, or any other unimportant title. His incompetence will shine through, no matter what. History shows that he's a loser. He's not changing his stripes. PERIOD.

Stop it already with all this angst about how he's going to pull a few wins outta his ***. Not gonna happen.

The real problem is that the BOT might not also fire Flake, and that the new HC could be just as bad as our current fraud.

Right now, CSN is reshowing the VT game. I can't believe that we didn't beat that crap team by 30. VT probably won't make a bowl, this year.

 

[DuffleBagYoda]

I understand that has to be step one on the NC ladder.

But this guy is a pilgrim. It seems that he is settling when he says that. Which i think is what Fans are hung up on.

I'm in a weird place. I can't actively root against MIAMI. But I'm not joyous. I want success but I Dont want Al behind the wheel achieving it.

Here is my last hope. Al gone Al, baby! There will be a flop. Or hopefully a boing as we bring a new staff and spring back to greatness

 

[The Franchise]

How can we expect a national championship when we've never even won the division of the ACC yet alone the conference?

Might be in the minority here but actually have no issue with the Coastal goal. It is something that is obtainable and sadly would be considered an accomplishment in our 11 year tenure in ACC. However, it is realistic and you want your team buying into something that is realistic. Should it be the standard? No, as we aren't Wake Forest of UVA but let's not take the boom or bust approach when the boom is uncharted territory for this program. Build off of the Coastal into winning the ACC then competing for National Titles. All of this is on the macro level and sadly in year 5 should not be focusing on the Coastal. However, based on where we are with the roster we have, the goal is reasonable.

Weak. Really weak.

The Coastal should NEVER be the goal at UM. EVER. You can set the ACC Championship as a goal because that could lead to a NC. Setting the Coastal as a goal is a pathetic cop out.

 

[407cane]

who cares if he says the goal is the coastal? obviously if he wins the coastal his goal would be to win the next game, the ACC championship. Then his next goal would be to win a BCS Bowl or National Championship. It doesn't matter what he says or what any coach says, obviously the goal is to win all the games. It just so happens that he is bad at it

 

[ball915]

How can we expect a national championship when we've never even won the division of the ACC yet alone the conference?

Might be in the minority here but actually have no issue with the Coastal goal. It is something that is obtainable and sadly would be considered an accomplishment in our 11 year tenure in ACC. However, it is realistic and you want your team buying into something that is realistic. Should it be the standard? No, as we aren't Wake Forest of UVA but let's not take the boom or bust approach when the boom is uncharted territory for this program. Build off of the Coastal into winning the ACC then competing for National Titles. All of this is on the macro level and sadly in year 5 should not be focusing on the Coastal. However, based on where we are with the roster we have, the goal is reasonable.

Weak. Really weak.

The Coastal should NEVER be the goal at UM. EVER. You can set the ACC Championship as a goal because that could lead to a NC. Setting the Coastal as a goal is a pathetic cop out.

As a Canes fan I couldn't agree with you more. However, I am taking my fan glasses off here and putting myself in the AD's shoes. I didn't express in previous post well enough that the winning the Coastal outright is the minimum goal. With that being said, losses to Cincy, losing a 5th consecutive game to FSU and looking sloppy at times is not acceptable by any means. The reality of the situation is that we just aren't in a place realistically to compete for National Championships and as any good manager have to be aware of what you are working with to set obtainable goals. The fact is we haven't won the division in 11 years so frankly have put ourselves in a position where winning the Coastal is actually viewed as success but should not be satisfied with it.

Golden has made the Coastal the end goal which is weak, really weak as you put it best. Being in year 5 with all of his guys the goal of Coastal is too low. My point was solely from a management perspective I see the value in stressing the Coastal as it is an obtainable goal. However, would make it crystal clear to the coach that it is the minimum standard in year 5 and moving forward.

 

[NVA CANE]

If you can win the coastal you can win the ACC or at least you will play for that opportunity. Hence the goal should never be to win the coastal it implies losing the ACCCG is acceptable.

Bare minimum should be the ACC but not in year 5 of a coaches tenure. Thats a year one or two goal. Have some self respect for yourself as an Athletic Director. The coastal or even the ACC in year 5? SMH

 

[The Franchise]

who cares if he says the goal is the coastal?

Winners care.

 

[The Franchise]

How can we expect a national championship when we've never even won the division of the ACC yet alone the conference?

Might be in the minority here but actually have no issue with the Coastal goal. It is something that is obtainable and sadly would be considered an accomplishment in our 11 year tenure in ACC. However, it is realistic and you want your team buying into something that is realistic. Should it be the standard? No, as we aren't Wake Forest of UVA but let's not take the boom or bust approach when the boom is uncharted territory for this program. Build off of the Coastal into winning the ACC then competing for National Titles. All of this is on the macro level and sadly in year 5 should not be focusing on the Coastal. However, based on where we are with the roster we have, the goal is reasonable.

Weak. Really weak.

The Coastal should NEVER be the goal at UM. EVER. You can set the ACC Championship as a goal because that could lead to a NC. Setting the Coastal as a goal is a pathetic cop out.

As a Canes fan I couldn't agree with you more. However, I am taking my fan glasses off here and putting myself in the AD's shoes. I didn't express in previous post well enough that the winning the Coastal outright is the minimum goal. With that being said, losses to Cincy, losing a 5th consecutive game to FSU and looking sloppy at times is not acceptable by any means. The reality of the situation is that we just aren't in a place realistically to compete for National Championships and as any good manager have to be aware of what you are working with to set obtainable goals. The fact is we haven't won the division in 11 years so frankly have put ourselves in a position where winning the Coastal is actually viewed as success but should not be satisfied with it.

Golden has made the Coastal the end goal which is weak, really weak as you put it best. Being in year 5 with all of his guys the goal of Coastal is too low. My point was solely from a management perspective I see the value in stressing the Coastal as it is an obtainable goal. However, would make it crystal clear to the coach that it is the minimum standard in year 5 and moving forward.

You've fallen into the trap of allowing Folden to lower the bar. You state that we're not in position to set the ACC title as a goal, and I just don't buy that. If you're not in a position to win the ACC in year 5, then you shouldn't be the HC. We've got a team full of NFL players and a program that has proven it can win and compete for NCs regularly with even competent coaching. So just because Folden hasn't been able to win the ****** Coastal doesn't mean that winning the Coastal is an acceptable goal.

If you set the ACC title as your goal, you automatically have the goal of winning the Coastal because you can't win the ACC without winning the Coastal. If you set the Coastal as your goal, you're pretty much telling the world you can't beat the Atlantic champion, and that's pathetic.

 

[407cane]

who cares if he says the goal is the coastal?

care.

see I can quote out of context too. Doesn't make you appear any smarter to the board.

 

[ball915]

How can we expect a national championship when we've never even won the division of the ACC yet alone the conference?

Might be in the minority here but actually have no issue with the Coastal goal. It is something that is obtainable and sadly would be considered an accomplishment in our 11 year tenure in ACC. However, it is realistic and you want your team buying into something that is realistic. Should it be the standard? No, as we aren't Wake Forest of UVA but let's not take the boom or bust approach when the boom is uncharted territory for this program. Build off of the Coastal into winning the ACC then competing for National Titles. All of this is on the macro level and sadly in year 5 should not be focusing on the Coastal. However, based on where we are with the roster we have, the goal is reasonable.

Weak. Really weak.

The Coastal should NEVER be the goal at UM. EVER. You can set the ACC Championship as a goal because that could lead to a NC. Setting the Coastal as a goal is a pathetic cop out.

As a Canes fan I couldn't agree with you more. However, I am taking my fan glasses off here and putting myself in the AD's shoes. I didn't express in previous post well enough that the winning the Coastal outright is the minimum goal. With that being said, losses to Cincy, losing a 5th consecutive game to FSU and looking sloppy at times is not acceptable by any means. The reality of the situation is that we just aren't in a place realistically to compete for National Championships and as any good manager have to be aware of what you are working with to set obtainable goals. The fact is we haven't won the division in 11 years so frankly have put ourselves in a position where winning the Coastal is actually viewed as success but should not be satisfied with it.

Golden has made the Coastal the end goal which is weak, really weak as you put it best. Being in year 5 with all of his guys the goal of Coastal is too low. My point was solely from a management perspective I see the value in stressing the Coastal as it is an obtainable goal. However, would make it crystal clear to the coach that it is the minimum standard in year 5 and moving forward.

You've fallen into the trap of allowing Folden to lower the bar. You state that we're not in position to set the ACC title as a goal, and I just don't buy that. If you're not in a position to win the ACC in year 5, then you shouldn't be the HC. We've got a team full of NFL players and a program that has proven it can win and compete for NCs regularly with even competent coaching. So just because Folden hasn't been able to win the ****** Coastal doesn't mean that winning the Coastal is an acceptable goal.

If you set the ACC title as your goal, you automatically have the goal of winning the Coastal because you can't win the ACC without winning the Coastal. If you set the Coastal as your goal, you're pretty much telling the world you can't beat the Atlantic champion, and that's pathetic.

Winning the Coastal in year 5 should be a no brainer and the minimum standard. Golden has made it the overall goal which I do not agree with. Externally putting the focus on the Coastal is fine as it is a short term goal that is in reach. Internally, it needs to be made clear that the Coastal isn't enough. I am not disagreeing with you one bit and think that my articulation is bad.

 

[Ssoto0055]

How can we expect a national championship when we've never even won the division of the ACC yet alone the conference?

When Howard took over this team hadn't even won an arm wrestling match but he told everyone that he was going to win championship in five years. He set his goal and took the necessary steps to get there. Al is in over his head and his low bar is how he buys himself time, hoping to figure it out. Unfortunately for him he's not a leader.