Will we cut down the penalties?

[simplycanes]

I don’t remember any “WHAT THE **** ARE YOU DOING” penalties on our guys?

Like the emotion and intensity of the game we’ve been good for at least one boneheaded dumb **** 15 yard penalty per game for years

This was a clean game 1, pretty impressive. Would have been 3 for 20 yards (?) if the game was called fairly, but the ACC needs to get theirs in on us no matter what.

One thing I would like to see is Mario working the refs more, get in their faces for the horse . A lot of this is 50/50 stuff, if a ref knows it’s accompanied with a berating from a 240lb man all high on cafecito, that will detract one or two flags a game. That’s just psychology.

 

[marshallrc13]

I haven’t seen anyone really discuss this much on the board and I think it’ll be extremely critical for us to do so in order to make the playoff. We’ve become so numb to back breaking, brain dumb penalties from our teams the past 20 years and last year was no exception. We ranked 118th in the country in penalties.. no bueno. I keep hearing how the culture has taken massive steps forward and I believe it has but when are we gonna see that start to translate on the field? The margin for good to great is razor thin and an area like penalties can be the ultimate difference.

We had 1 penalty in the first half and some BS calls in the 2nd. I don't really think it was an issue. I feel like the refs were against us in the 2nd half trying to make it a game or hand it to ND. The PI on Poyser was a joke. He was literally picked (OPI) on that play they didn't call and the call on him was ridiculous.

 

[marshallrc13]

PI against ZP us was garbage. Swear the official just threw it because Freeman was in is ear.

Block in the back against us was garbage.

They missed a bunch of extra curricular where ND should’ve been flagged. But called one on us for tackling … wtf.

Missed one or two ND PIs on Toney.

All at crucial times too.

This

 

[Canenok66]

Refs were abysmal overall, zero argument there. I will say, I believe they technically got the call right on the unsportsmanlike penalty down by the goal line. From my understanding, in college, if you lose your helmet you have to stop pursuing the play. Because he kept going after the tackle, it's a penalty. "Player safety." Now, I'm taking my guy taking a penalty over allowing a touchdown, but not sure that's one we should gripe about when there were a dozen much more egregious calls that turned that game.

I think many are referencing the Unsportsmanlike penalty on Blay on the punt return. Instead of Miami getting the ball at the 30 it put it back at the 15 which also dictated a very conservative play calling series. Even the Expert official in the booth disagreed with the call. Never the less an overall Cleanly played Game#1 against a really tough opponent.

 

[PIPO]

Picking up a holding for ND is WIIIIIIIILLDDD!!

I’ve never seen anything like it my life. I can’t ever recall in all of my time watching football a holding call picked up on an offensive lineman. ****, anyone on offense.

That was so wild!!

What was that conversation like?

“Hey, Mack! WTF are you doing throwing a flag?”

Mack - “I saw an obvious shirt tug/choke hold that everyone saw.”

Head Ref - “Mack, we were able to make up the previous holding call with a fake PI on the next play. We can’t do that here. We will pick this **** up and don’t let it happen again or you aren’t getting your cut. You thought you saw a hold but you were mistaken thinking it was a white glove tugging the shirt when it was just the white shirt moving in the wind.”

 

[CreativeCane]

I think many are referencing the Unsportsmanlike penalty on Blay on the punt return. Instead of Miami getting the ball at the 30 it put it back at the 15 which also dictated a very conservative play calling series. Even the Expert official in the booth disagreed with the call. Never the less an overall Cleanly played Game#1 against a really tough opponent.

Agreed, that was another rough and inconsistent call considering they body-slammed a couple of our guys and it didn't get called.

 

[mirasuegui]

PI against ZP us was garbage. Swear the official just threw it because Freeman was in is ear.

Block in the back against us was garbage.

They missed a bunch of extra curricular where ND should’ve been flagged. But called one on us for tackling … wtf.

Missed one or two ND PIs on Toney.

All at crucial times too.

every time there was an obvious penalty in our favor, it seems the flags were glue to the ref's pockets.

 

[TaylorWalls]

There isn't much of a correlation between wins and having fewer penalties.

 

[mirasuegui]

That was an ACC crew. Hope It’s not a harbinger of things to come for us in league play. Yikes.

Betcha! It's coming, don't forget the two safeties calls that were not safeties. Like JJ said, don't leave it in the ref's hands.

 

[Kn[]_[]ckles3o5]

That was an ACC crew. Hope It’s not a harbinger of things to come for us in league play. Yikes.

Harbinger? It’s the standard. The list of game changing loss causing calls against us, on our home field nonetheless, is so extensive that it is an impossible coincidence.

GT non fumble. Mark Walton long run call back. Matt Thomas targeting Kaaya with impunity, UNC dropped Td pass in the end zone. 7 games without a hold call in 2017 when we had the most elite pass rush in the country.

**** Sunday night Bain and Mesidor were getting roped all game and the only hold they called was against a TE on the outside against a DB

This is exactly how it’s going to go all year. Get ready for the bull**** in choke Campbell

 

[Canenok66]

There isn't much of a correlation between wins and having fewer penalties.

Against a Top 10 disciplined team there is. TO's, penalties, mental break downs are usually the difference between a win or loss against good teams. Against weak overmatched teams you're correct.

 

[QuattroCane]

Grabbing a guy by the facemask and dragging/pulling him in front of the ref and NOTHING?!?!
How does that not get called, that was awful.

 

[flips]

No

 

[Damiencane86]

I take penalties against us with a MAJOR grain of salt, ND game had at least 3 bogus calls and thats the historical norm. This has to be accounted for when looking at where we fall nationally on that metric.

 

[Gransapo]

Did you just become a fan after Sunday's game?

 

[TaylorWalls]

Against a Top 10 disciplined team there is. TO's, penalties, mental break downs are usually the difference between a win or loss against good teams. Against weak overmatched teams you're correct.

I'm talking season results in general. There is literally no correlation between penalty yards per game and wins. SMU, Texas, Arizona State, Georgia, Notre Dame.....all bottom half of FBS in penalties. Kent State, Northwestern, Oklahoma State....all in the top 30.

 

[TaylorWalls]

@cway313

You want to show me some data that indicates a connection between "disciplined, low-penalized teams" and wins?

 

[anandris]

Hate to say I told y’all so..