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Will this facility still be built?

CANESPR0P0NENT said:
The University of Miami has plenty of capital and financial support. NIL will be the priority (mainly for football) going forward.

They are not going to build the facility unless they receive a colossal donation to do so (a donation specifically dedicated to building it).

The 'fake-insider' has been proclaiming that it will be built for close to two-years now (hence the two pages of inarticulate bluster that he just published).

UM has stellar donors. They are astute businessmen. They are not going to allocate $150M to a building dedicated to 85 student-athletes when they just finished an expansion of the Soffer Center. (We will see high inflation within 6-months and a 5% 10-year. You think Miami's Trustees are going to allocate $150M to a football building (post Soffer)?)

Two years from now, the 'fake-insider' will publish more gibberish and the facility will remain an architectural drawing.
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You are full of ****.

I'm no fake insider. And as the Hecht-Stanford teardown dragged on, I was one of the FIRST posters to tell people that there would be a sequencing of construction projects that would push back the original idea.

But I do think it's "cute" how you think Miami has to fund building projects with high-interest mortgage loans.

If I want any more **** out of you, I'll squeeze your head.
 
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BostonCanes47 said:
Jesus…lol
I was Simply saying I think the building would be redundant. And I was genuinely asking if they have cold plunges and the hydrotherapy setup already because that was the only thing that really stood out to me that the players might not have and definitely need.

I literally said I would rather invest in building at the indoor practice facility and Hecht more and do NIL vs a complete separate building that seems like overkill / redundant.

As a guy who played, the logistics of the building don’t seem great too. I like the idea of having my locker room right next to my practice field and weight room like it currently is.

If I was in charge, I’d focus efforts / money on continuing to make the indoor practice facility and Hecht a world class facility.
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Sorry, I responded to your post, but I was already sick of @CANESPR0P0NENT 's nonsense.

The Football Ops building will not be redundant. As Miami joins the P2 and adds new sports to the Athletic Department, the space in Hecht will be needed by programs that do not currently exist.

The locker rooms will still be in Hecht. I used "locker rooms" as an example of one of the "new era" facilities features that are appealing to recruits, but we are not moving "everything" across the canal.

And for the record, the new building will be connected to Hecht by a separate bridge across the canal.

Hecht (as it currently exists) will never be a "world class facility", unless they tear down and rebuild all the old **** in the front half of the structure. That's just an unavoidable fact. When all is said and done, "Hecht", such as it will become, will have two separate entries, one from ****inson for football and one from San Amaro for all other sports.
 
valid said:
I would rather the cash go into NIL...facilities really dont matter anymore when it comes to talent acquisition. Expanding the weight room and IPF is good enough as those are mandatory expectations. We dont need lounges, arcades, slides etc
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That is what they are planning to do. Now if someone shows up with a sizable donation, they will find a way to fund the building (undoubtedly). In my opinion, they would only be willing to fundraise up to $50M for this building, but I have not heard an actual number.

All Cristobal needs is NIL funding. Unless the SEC wrecks NIL because they cannot compete financially with the Miami's, Stanfords, Notre Dames and USCs, Miami will be a top program for the foreseeable future, but football is all the SEC offers students, so they will act nefariously.
 
"University of Miami Vice President/Director of Athletics Dan Radakovich officially announced plans for a new $100 million, seven-story on-campus football operations center on January 4, 2023. The facility is designed to connect to the existing Carol Soffer Indoor Practice Facility to serve as a comprehensive home for the football program."

They announced this 3.5 years ago..........................
 
CANESPR0P0NENT said:
"University of Miami Vice President/Director of Athletics Dan Radakovich officially announced plans for a new $100 million, seven-story on-campus football operations center on January 4, 2023. The facility is designed to connect to the existing Carol Soffer Indoor Practice Facility to serve as a comprehensive home for the football program."

They announced this 3.5 years ago..........................
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Already, you are rounding up. "$150 million" (in YOUR post). "3.5 years" (in YOUR post).

So typical, based on your history of mopey disinformation. As just one example, the announced "$100M" included the IPF expansion, which by my math would mean that the football facility on the other side of the canal would cost less than $100M, since we are nearing completion on the IPF expansion portion. But, sure, you just keep yapping about "$150 million".

3 years, 3 months. Go back to your Google machine and tell me how long it took to build the "Ryder Center", also known as our on-campus basketball arena. ****, we even had a GROUNDBREAKING for that one, years before completion. And how long did it take to build the Lowe Art Museum expansion? Or the new Student Union?

I told you that if I wanted any more **** out of you I would squeeze your head, and I haven't started to squeeze yet.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Exactly.

Everyone is looking for an edge. Back when not every school was cool with "putting money in McDonald's bags", the battle for differentiation was waged over shiny-fancy (non-sports-related) eye-catchers, like having a "lazy river" installed.

And now that the (non-Collective) money that schools can pay is fairly similar, you are starting to see the construction of new-era-NIL facilities.

Good lord, it's like people think we were gonna build 7 floors of football coach offices and study rooms like the old days.

Players today need to see physical rehab resources and locker rooms where they can hang out all day listening to music and watching game tapes (with maybe a foosball break), as well as facilities that support content creation, marketing, brand awareness, and business meeting spaces.

It's a new world. Miami is aware, and will fund it, and will build it.
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From all that I have read Miami is at the leading edge of aspects that are critical to a players career at UM (diagnostic and rehab facilities) as well as guidance and education on WEALTH MANAGEMENT / investment activities AND post playing career development opportunities to ensure that players who commit to UM are literally set for life. Tremendous "contact making" advantages of living / playing in a major international city with every business you could imagine ... vs playing / living in a college town where the local Ford dealer is the biggest business around,
 
KingCane20 said:
@CANESPR0P0NENT 👀
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That @CANESPR0P0NENT fake-insider-guy is going to do what he always does.

Refuse to directly answer a single post, while waxing poetic with "unprompted" comments about inflation rates and interest rates.

I started at UM 40 years ago, and I'll say exactly what UM says every time someone says that a particular construction project will never happen...

"Challenge accepted".

I am going to paraphrase another poster who has information that has not been widely disseminated. Coral Gables will no longer stop us. The days of "UM has to reconnect both ends of Miller Road" are long gone.

Having said that, when Miami needs to spend $90M to build additional athletic office space as we add new sports programs, it will happen.

Seven stories? Don't know, could be six. Every feature promised? ****, I'm still waiting for the water polo pool with a floor that goes up and down, as I was promised by Norm Parsons when he presented the plan for the Wellness Center to the Student Government Senate in order to get us to support a referendum to increase the student activity fee.

But for these NIL-only mopes to tell us that the building will never happen...that's when I know it will happen.
 
Rickd said:
From all that I have read Miami is at the leading edge of aspects that are critical to a players career at UM (diagnostic and rehab facilities) as well as guidance and education on WEALTH MANAGEMENT / investment activities AND post playing career development opportunities to ensure that players who commit to UM are literally set for life. Tremendous "contact making" advantages of living / playing in a major international city with every business you could imagine ... vs playing / living in a college town where the local Ford dealer is the biggest business around,
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Yes.

Certain posters like to dumb things down. They want you to believe that the "astute businessmen" who are spending $40 M for our football roster alone are...TOO CHEAP...to then fund a $90M building that would increase our capacity to handle athlete health and recovery....TOO CHEAP...to then fund a $90M building that will increase our capacity to harness technology to prepare our athletes for gameday...TOO CHEAP...to then fund a $90M building that will allow our athletes to take the $40M and turn it into $400M...

Yes...because "inflation rates" and "interest rates"...

This is what happens when you allow people to sell you short-sightedness and "we can only raise funds for one project at a time" analysis.

I've been nothing but honest in these threads. I told you that the original timeframe was too optimistic. I told you that there are some donors to UM who do NOT want to plow money into NIL and would instead prefer to have their names on buildings and rooms inside of buildings. I told you that the construction on that side of campus was complex and problematic, and that there were a lot of other negotiations ongoing with Coral Gables.

But noooooo...some of our "keepin' it realz" posters would have you believe that the need for $40M of NIL is CRIPPLING to Miami's fundraising abilities. That our "astute businessmen" would rather **** away $40M per year on players who could suffer season-ending injuries on one play, rather than investing some money in a (relatively) self-sustaining building to support things like athletic performance and athletic marketing.

Whatever. I'm done. If you feel the need to believe the nonsense that @CANESPR0P0NENT is peddling, then put on your bib and swallow his bull****.

"WAAAAAHHHH, nobody is going to fund a building that serves only 85 students".

Sure. Whatever. Have you checked student attendance at the Lowe Art Museum? Or how many students actually GO TO plays at the Ring? Or checked how many students are actually TRUE Education majors (and I'm not counting the ones in the Sports Management program, which should be in the School of Business and NOT the School of Education). ****, I don't even think Education is still "on campus", didn't they move it to the Orovitz Building behind AllCanes and Titanic?
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
That @CANESPR0P0NENT fake-insider-guy is going to do what he always does.

Refuse to directly answer a single post, while waxing poetic with "unprompted" comments about inflation rates and interest rates.

I started at UM 40 years ago, and I'll say exactly what UM says every time someone says that a particular construction project will never happen...

"Challenge accepted".

I am going to paraphrase another poster who has information that has not been widely disseminated. Coral Gables will no longer stop us. The days of "UM has to reconnect both ends of Miller Road" are long gone.

Having said that, when Miami needs to spend $90M to build additional athletic office space as we add new sports programs, it will happen.

Seven stories? Don't know, could be six. Every feature promised? ****, I'm still waiting for the water polo pool with a floor that goes up and down, as I was promised by Norm Parsons when he presented the plan for the Wellness Center to the Student Government Senate in order to get us to support a referendum to increase the student activity fee.

But for these NIL-only mopes to tell us that the building will never happen...that's when I know it will happen.
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I'm just waiting to see his response to Mario's own words...
Anticipation Popcorn GIF
 
KingCane20 said:
I'm just waiting to see his response to Mario's own words...
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"Inflation rates".

"Interest rates".

"Board of Trustees".

"Only 85 students".

"Stellar donors".

"Astute businessmen".

"$150M".

"3.5 years".

"Need a colossal donation".

I'm predicting you will see something of a remix of all those brilliant insider tidbits...
 
This 'Fake-Insider' has a complete inability to admit when he is wrong. Typical attorney.

They tell their clients that the opposition is wrong, guarantee victory and keep their clients in court for years - meanwhile amassing fees............ Ambulance chasers.........

It has been over three years and little mention of the facility.

They are not building it. Guy can never admit when he is wrong.
 
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