Why is Richt better than Schiano?

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I'm not trying to start anything just generally curious as to why we love Richt and hate Schiano? I've been looking at both and I'm not sure who would be the better hire. Schiano over performed at his college coaching gig to the point where his offered a job as an NFL head coach. Richt under performed to the point where has was fired. I don't think Richt would be a bad hire, just not sure why we consider him that much better than schiano?
 
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Schiano finished with a 68-67 record at Rutgers. In his 11 years, his Big East record was 28-48 (37 percent). Even since 2006, when Rutgers seemed to turn the corner with its "miracle team" that finished 11-2 and ranked No. 12, his Big East record was an unimpressive 16-19.

He was known for playing some of the softest schedules in college football.

During his 11 years at Rutgers, not once did any of his teams have a strength of schedule in the top 50. Even with seven Big East games each season, his average SOS was 69.

Of his 40 non-conference wins, 30 came against teams from non-BCS conferences.

Schiano's Rutgers teams feasted on MAC teams (7-1), Army and Navy (13-2) and FCS teams (8-2). None of these non-conference wins came against a team ranked in the top 25.

Against non-conference teams from BCS conferences Schiano went 10-12. Five of these wins came in bowl games in which Rutgers was favored. Once more, none of these wins were against teams ranked in the top 25.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Why Greg Schiano Hiring Is so Surprising | Bleacher Report

Richt is an underwhelming hire, but his track record is much better than Schiano's. His Rutgers teams would feast against bad teams. They beat no one with a pulse.

This is the same narrative people used when trying to justify the hire of Golden. Claimed he "resurrected" Temple, but refused to acknowledge he went 0-14 against MAC teams with winning records.

He would be a terrible hire.
 
Because Richt has been consistently good, Schiano Had 1 good season after 5 years, followed by a mediocre season. He is more comparable to Cristobal. Plus after "coal shoveling", I don't want to hear about Fckng "chopping wood"
 
Oh OK that kinda explains it then. If the Bucs screwed up that hire and he didn't really deserve it I'm on board with Richt first. I can't see Richt flopping here, just don't see him as an exciting coach. Still don't think he wants to come anyway.
 
Seriously?

I didn't really follow Schiano at Rutgers, just know he had some success, enough to get hired as an NFL head coach. That usually says something good about a coach. But yea maybe he sucks, not the biggest fan of Richt either though but yea definitely ahead of Schiano.
 
Schiano is a Joe Pa disciple coach from New Jersey who uses catches phrases like "chopping wood." Does this sound familiar to you?
 
Asking why richt is better than schiano is like asking why Carroll is better than kiffin
 
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Except in my comparison Richt and Kiffin were the only actually fired from college jobs. Schiano and Carroll were both offered NFL gigs.
 
Fine, I'll play.

Richt was 145-51 at UGA and 83-37 in the SEC. He won 6 SEC East titles and 2 SEC titles. He won 2 Sugar Bowls. He finished ranked #2 , #3 , #3 , #4 , #6 , #6 , #9 , #10 , #18 , #2 2, #2 3, #2 5. He went to a bowl every year, winning 9.

Schiano was 68-67 at Rutgers. He was 28-48 in the Big East. He was 2-19 in the Big East with Miami and VT in it. He never won the Big East, finishing tied for 2nd twice with a 5-2 record. His best season was 11-2, 5-2 when they finished #12 and won the Texas Bowl (that's a thing?). That was his only 10 win season, and only season he finished ranked.

Now, you can say look at Rutgers before, which is fair, but I'd say, not so fast. Look at UGA before Richt. People don't realize UGA was mediocre to decent at best from Dooley's last years through Goff and Donnan. UGA fired Richt because they had lofty expectations, but only had those expectations because of Richt. UGA never won the East under Donnan. Won 10 games once, best finish was #10 and best bowl was the Peach. Ray Goff was 46-34-1 and 26-28 in the SEC. Only finished ranked twice. Dooley was 20-10-1 in the SEC after Herschel graduated. In the 17 years, post-Herschel, pre-Richt, UGA was 71-53-1 in the SEC, never won the SEC, finished ranked in the Top 25 six times, in the top 10 twice. In Richt's 15 years they won 83 SEC games, in a much tougher SEC (though they did expand from 7 to 8 SEC games in 1992, but the winning % still proves my point), finished in the top 25 twelve times and the Top 10 eight times.

Ok, I'm done.
 
[]_[] swag;2402167 said:
I'm not trying to start anything just generally curious as to why we love Richt and hate Schiano? I've been looking at both and I'm not sure who would be the better hire. Schiano over performed at his college coaching gig to the point where his offered a job as an NFL head coach. Richt under performed to the point where has was fired. I don't think Richt would be a bad hire, just not sure why we consider him that much better than schiano?
The first problem is he hired DonFreetoes as his DC. That's enough!
 
Schiano finished with a 68-67 record at Rutgers. In his 11 years, his Big East record was 28-48 (37 percent). Even since 2006, when Rutgers seemed to turn the corner with its "miracle team" that finished 11-2 and ranked No. 12, his Big East record was an unimpressive 16-19.

He was known for playing some of the softest schedules in college football.

During his 11 years at Rutgers, not once did any of his teams have a strength of schedule in the top 50. Even with seven Big East games each season, his average SOS was 69.

Of his 40 non-conference wins, 30 came against teams from non-BCS conferences.

Schiano's Rutgers teams feasted on MAC teams (7-1), Army and Navy (13-2) and FCS teams (8-2). None of these non-conference wins came against a team ranked in the top 25.

Against non-conference teams from BCS conferences Schiano went 10-12. Five of these wins came in bowl games in which Rutgers was favored. Once more, none of these wins were against teams ranked in the top 25.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Why Greg Schiano Hiring Is so Surprising | Bleacher Report

Richt is an underwhelming hire, but his track record is much better than Schiano's. His Rutgers teams would feast against bad teams. They beat no one with a pulse.

This is the same narrative people used when trying to justify the hire of Golden. Claimed he "resurrected" Temple, but refused to acknowledge he went 0-14 against MAC teams with winning records.

He would be a terrible hire.
All of this.
 
Richt by all accounts is a great person. He takes a personal interest in his players. He is fiercely loyal to his coaches (to a fault some would say). Players publicly support him and love playing for him. He is very good at public relations and presents a clean, wholesome image for the University. Yet, he constantly underachieved.

Sound familiar? We just fired a guy with similar traits. In fact, our last 3 coaches were all "nice" guys albeit from diverse backgrounds.

It's time to hire a jerk! Give me Mullen or Butch. If not, Schiano over Richt.
 
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