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Why do you think defense wins championships?

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Great defense is more consistent and usually travels well. Much like a good rebounding team in basketball.
 
paksat said:
in theory it's a 50/50 split, you have offense and then you have defense

to a non football or sports fan in general they would think you're superstitious if you just busted that out on them

so what separates the two? Has anyone really thought about this?
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I would offer it isn't a 50/50 split. A great defense will give any offense (even mediocre) more opportunities to score because they [the defense] are getting the opposition's offense off the field (and the other team's mechanism for scoring 99% of the time).

Look how many games were lost by Miami because the defense either 1) couldn't get a stop, or 2) Miami's offense was so inconsistent they put the defense right back on the field after a 3-out...that led right back to #1 .

Contrast that with what Denver's defense was abke to do all year, and especially in SB 50. They kept giving Denver's offense chances because they held Carolina's offense to short, barely sustained drives.

Granted, it's very hard to do it that way with defense, but thats why the great ones are so uncommon.
 
I'd bet those same Bama teams that won national championships had good offense too. It's a combination of both IMO.

When FSU played Auburn, they had the best defense in the country. Auburn had them for a significant portion of the game with their high powered offense. Auburn's defense was considered poor prior to that game, but again they contained FSU for a while.

We often talk about a year Berlin was the QB, that he cost use a national championship, and the defense was stellar.

Bottom line, you need both.
 
paksat said:
in theory it's a 50/50 split, you have offense and then you have defense

to a non football or sports fan in general they would think you're superstitious if you just busted that out on them

so what separates the two? Has anyone really thought about this?
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Part of it is perception. Many equate defense with holding the line, or limiting the offensive capabilities of your opponent's offense.

But when your defense is an attacking defense, whether you are on offense or defense, you're always the one attacking - and your opponent is the one reacting.

Offensive defense.

That's how you win.
 
paksat said:
in theory it's a 50/50 split, you have offense and then you have defense

to a non football or sports fan in general they would think you're superstitious if you just busted that out on them

so what separates the two? Has anyone really thought about this?
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you watch the superbowl this year?
 
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I prefer my defense to utilize a 'bend don't break' style, conceding small chunks of yardage, protecting against big plays, and hoping for red zone miscues by the opposition's offense.

When your offense gets on the field, take the play clock down to under ten seconds on every play and utilize the horizontal passing game, setting up the deep ball. The goal is the shorten the game as much as possible. This way you have a puncher's chance to win in the 4th quarter.
 
Actually defense and special teams wins championships. Get stops and win the turnover battle. If you do that you gain field position advantage therefore setting up the scores via special teams even if your offense can't score.
 
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Don't take one game as your test to show the results you want. That is what gets pharmaceutical companies in trouble. Like what UAddict said above, defense travels well. Defense does not care about weather or crowd noise.

If you have an offense that has 3 bad plays in a row you simply punt. If a D has 3 bad plays in a row that is a TD.

But you simply hav to have both for a championship most of the time. Th Chargers have had the best defenses in he NFL with Junion Seau and company but their offense was so bad they could hardly make the playoffs. We have seen plenty of high scoring offenses go into the tank when meet by a strong D that did not give so much cushion. The Nebraska game above the Nebraska D got beat above once and then went to a turtle zone and it was over. Nebraska did not make the same mistake vs FSU 93 or Miami 94. They stuck to the plan and at the same time respected what those FSU and Miami DLines could do and used their strengths against them. If Carolina simply would have done more screens over Von Miller and would have loaded up on Von's side and run QB sweeps until Von had no legs left we would be here talking about how bad Peyton has been the past 2 years. And we would not see Cam the front runner for a few more years.
 
whoopingcane said:
I prefer my defense to utilize a 'bend don't break' style, conceding small chunks of yardage, protecting against big plays, and hoping for red zone miscues by the opposition's offense.

When your offense gets on the field, take the play clock down to under ten seconds on every play and utilize the horizontal passing game, setting up the deep ball. The goal is the shorten the game as much as possible. This way you have a puncher's chance to win in the 4th quarter.
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Whoop - that sounds brilliant - almost counter-intuitive - but brilliant.

Now, if we can just find a brilliant coach smart enough to try it - and stick with it. It's gotta work.

Eventually.

Right?
 
UMFarArcher said:
whoopingcane said:
I prefer my defense to utilize a 'bend don't break' style, conceding small chunks of yardage, protecting against big plays, and hoping for red zone miscues by the opposition's offense.

When your offense gets on the field, take the play clock down to under ten seconds on every play and utilize the horizontal passing game, setting up the deep ball. The goal is the shorten the game as much as possible. This way you have a puncher's chance to win in the 4th quarter.
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Whoop - that sounds brilliant - almost counter-intuitive - but brilliant.

Now, if we can just find a brilliant coach smart enough to try it - and stick with it. It's gotta work.

Eventually.

Right?
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It's all depends on a systematic strength and conditioning program designed to add bulk to your athletes.

Hey Arch, I've got this all written down on hundreds of sheets of loose leaf paper.

If only there was some kind of over-sized folder contraption to keep all my papers together.

Any ideas?
 
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whoopingcane said:
UMFarArcher said:
whoopingcane said:
I prefer my defense to utilize a 'bend don't break' style, conceding small chunks of yardage, protecting against big plays, and hoping for red zone miscues by the opposition's offense.

When your offense gets on the field, take the play clock down to under ten seconds on every play and utilize the horizontal passing game, setting up the deep ball. The goal is the shorten the game as much as possible. This way you have a puncher's chance to win in the 4th quarter.
Click to expand...

Whoop - that sounds brilliant - almost counter-intuitive - but brilliant.

Now, if we can just find a brilliant coach smart enough to try it - and stick with it. It's gotta work.

Eventually.

Right?
Click to expand...

It's all depends on a systematic strength and conditioning program designed to add bulk to your athletes.

Hey Arch, I've got this all written down on hundreds of sheets of loose leaf paper.

If only there was some kind of over-sized folder contraption to keep all my papers together.

Any ideas?
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I asked around. Most replies indicated you might want to put all those papers in a binder. That sounds like a viable option!
 
UMFarArcher said:
whoopingcane said:
UMFarArcher said:
whoopingcane said:
I prefer my defense to utilize a 'bend don't break' style, conceding small chunks of yardage, protecting against big plays, and hoping for red zone miscues by the opposition's offense.

When your offense gets on the field, take the play clock down to under ten seconds on every play and utilize the horizontal passing game, setting up the deep ball. The goal is the shorten the game as much as possible. This way you have a puncher's chance to win in the 4th quarter.
Click to expand...

Whoop - that sounds brilliant - almost counter-intuitive - but brilliant.

Now, if we can just find a brilliant coach smart enough to try it - and stick with it. It's gotta work.

Eventually.

Right?
Click to expand...

It's all depends on a systematic strength and conditioning program designed to add bulk to your athletes.

Hey Arch, I've got this all written down on hundreds of sheets of loose leaf paper.

If only there was some kind of over-sized folder contraption to keep all my papers together.

Any ideas?
Click to expand...


I asked around. Most replies indicated you might want to put all those papers in a binder. That sounds like a viable option!
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A ******* binder! God dammit Arch, you da' man. I knew I could count on you.

Hey, I heard Temple is about to get relegated to the MAC. I think I might be able to get us a gig there.

We'd have superior talent at all positions to run your 3-4 there. I smell a bowl game.

Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
 
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