Why did Richt hire Manny Diaz?

[Jeeperaf]

I also take it as a bad sign in Diaz-led defenses that the run game gashes to second and third levels or pass attack completions same same?

 

[Torocane]

Fair enough. But why so? What does Aranda "do" better than Diaz?

Maybe lets discuss this way...if both DCs had exactly the same players, who would scheme and coach up the better product on the field?

I get it that the Asst Coaches are a huge variable...but scheme/philosophy wise...are Aranda and Diaz all that different?

I don't have the expertise to discuss the difference in scheme/philosophy or why one is better than the other.
All I do know for a fact is that Aranda's defenses have historically been ranked higher than Diaz.
Also Ritch chose Aranda over Diaz...so he must see a difference between the two.

I would say that the caliber of player Aranda has had is about the same Diaz has had as well.

 

[DTP]

I'd say the numbers point to Aranda being the better coach or at least a more consistent coordinator. There's lots to factor in though. Certain defenses are designed to counter certain offenses. It's safe to say Aranda wasn't facing nearly the caliber of spread passing teams in Wisconsin as a D-Co in the Big XII would. Also, Aranda runs a 3-4 which is practically blasphemy around here but he's had a lot of success with it. I'm super curious as to how his defense will translate to LSU. Different types of players for sure although, he'll be playing against a lot of similar offenses in the SEC that he was used to seeing in the Big 10.

As for Diaz, the jury is still out for me. He preaches aggression, aggression, aggression. Which sounds good but over-aggressiveness cost him his job in Texas. It seems he's toned down some of the blitzing which speaks to his ability to learn from previous mistakes. I'm curious to see what he can do in Miami. He's going to have some good talent to work with although the shortage at CB is concerning. I wouldn't be surprised to see him play it safe, at least early in the season before he starts testing his CBs in heavy one on one situations.

 

[AllAboutTheU]

Same reason we hired Richt. He was a guy who was available and attainable.

Eh, Richt was the most accomplished coach and best fit here. Disagree w/ your reasoning.

 

[cryptocane]

firing the guy before he coaches a snap--gotta love some of u small bussers

 

[cryptocane]

Same reason we hired Richt. He was a guy who was available and attainable.

Eh, Richt was the most accomplished coach and best fit here. Disagree w/ your reasoning.

available and attainable are usually 2 characteristics needed to hire someone--we lucked into richt as far as im concerned.

 

[Torocane]

firing the guy before he coaches a snap--gotta love some of u small bussers

Who is firing Diaz?

 

[sfowler06]

I could've sworn Aranda ran a 3-4 attacking defense and CMR wanted a 4-3 attacking defense?

 

[Torocane]

I could've sworn Aranda ran a 3-4 attacking defense and CMR wanted a 4-3 attacking defense?

He offered the job to Aranda first. I believe he said he wanted attacking he likes 4/3 but it would be up to DC he hired.

 

[BALLHAWKU]

Should of hired butch Davis as d cord

 

[Jeeperaf]

Fellow Fans,

I thought it was reported early on with Diaz that he might (will) run a four tiered defensive call scheme. What I mean by that is:

1) as DC, Diaz sets overarching defensive strategy for the given opponent;

2) during the game, DL defensive calls (by those specific coaches) are made separate from the DB;

3) during the game, DB defensive calls (by those specific coaches) are made separate from the DL; and

4) during the game, Diaz as DC ensures the separate DL and DB calls are working together overall to disrupt and stop the opponent's offense in support of the Hurricane's overall win the game strategy.

Am I making sense? Did i actually read that ir dream that?

Thoughts???

Anyone have thoughts on this...anyone?

Thoughts? I think you're a **** for quoting yourself begging for replies.

Here's another thought for you douche bag.

Why don't you try an answer the question?

Oh wait...you are too busy acting like a keyboard tough guy. From your Starcraft Command Center. In your mom's spare room. While wearing your Spiderman underoos.

Fuqn tool.

You talk tough in cyberspace, but all it really reveals how small and pathetic your persona is. In fact, it's very likely your father's sperm was defective and/or your mother's ovaries were broken. Did she drink heavily while you were in utero? Drugs maybe? Perhaps they were just incompetent as parents because they produced and raised you? What a sad disappointment you must be to them.

Utter fail. Your entire family.

How badly does it sting when you look at the mirror each morning, hoping, praying for something different, but then like a horror show groundhog day, you are...well...still you looking at the same sad life over and over again. I'd be bitter too. It isn't your fault. Really.

Does everyone on here know how hated you are in your workplace too? Your that guy who is disagreeable and that no one wants to eat lunch with...save for other flock-o-tools like yourself. What a tragic grouping.

That must be tough to deal with. So, instead of being a decent human being and trying to add to the discourse, the best you can conjure are snarky one-liners (I will admit some are funny in a Radio or Rain Man kinda way) that you could never do in person because you would be picking up two broken teeth with your two broken arms.

I've never said a derogatory word to you, as well as several others on here, despite your asnine posts on this board (this one and to several others).

Is the above the best you can do?

Go fuq yourself and try to apologize to society, along with your loser parents, for being such an utter waste of space.

Douche bag!

Ted Kaczynski, are you going to drop a package off at the US Post Office?

Lady In Waiting Ibis Fairy Wings, you ever going to stand up when you pee? Oh, that's right, you sit down in the girl's bathroom.

Care to offer anything on our defensive scheme question, or do you need permission from your bull dyke Princess Franchisca?

Bet you can't answer without looking up someone else's posts/answers...calling you out little girl...

 

[Jeeperaf]

I'd say the numbers point to Aranda being the better coach or at least a more consistent coordinator. There's lots to factor in though. Certain defenses are designed to counter certain offenses. It's safe to say Aranda wasn't facing nearly the caliber of spread passing teams in Wisconsin as a D-Co in the Big XII would. Also, Aranda runs a 3-4 which is practically blasphemy around here but he's had a lot of success with it. I'm super curious as to how his defense will translate to LSU. Different types of players for sure although, he'll be playing against a lot of similar offenses in the SEC that he was used to seeing in the Big 10.

As for Diaz, the jury is still out for me. He preaches aggression, aggression, aggression. Which sounds good but over-aggressiveness cost him his job in Texas. It seems he's toned down some of the blitzing which speaks to his ability to learn from previous mistakes. I'm curious to see what he can do in Miami. He's going to have some good talent to work with although the shortage at CB is concerning. I wouldn't be surprised to see him play it safe, at least early in the season before he starts testing his CBs in heavy one on one situations.

Appreciate response...excellent...you and Toro managed to smoke Princess and Fairy with a sentence...and they need a combined 20,000+ posts of...well...who knows what it is...but I digress...I'm in a magnanimous mood and want to give them a chance to recover from their tampon-induced shock syndrome...

If I read you right...Aranda runs an "attacking" 3-4. The goal of the DL'rs is to gap penetrate from the Xtechnique positions to cause some disruption, with the 2nd and 3rd level defenders waiting to stop for a loss, stop with no gain, or prevent a successful play in their AORs. Contrasted against D'Onfrio who had the same 2nd and 3rd level philosophy, but appeared to scheme the DL'rs to not penetrate as their primary role. Anyone who understands basic tactics would tell you that's madness. If you don't attack the fire control (i.e. QB), you are just gonna get pulled and picked apart...just like D'Onfrio led defenses did year after year.

With Diaz, he runs (or ran) hyper-aggressive schemes with the DL'rs primary role to disrupt and cause havoc behind the lines, leaving the 2nd and 3rd level defenders to stop for a loss, stop with no gain, or prevent a successful play in their AORs...but with at least one less body to help in a much larger space. So, when his DL'rs are successful it works great, but when not, it seems his defenses are more prone to getting gashed. After re-watching the UT v BYU tilt, it seemed the Cougars schemed to release the ball just a second before the 'Horn DL'rs could arrive and they exploited the spaces created by the gaps left in their wake. Bad day for UT and Diaz.

Like you said, hopefully he's learned to moderate that scheme a touch and not leave the 2nd and 3rd level defenders undermanned as often as he has in the past--because a good spread offense will likely gash for gains over and over. I suspect if he's successful in finding the right blend of aggression to fit the athletes that are on the roster, maybe he turns into a 4-3 version of Aranda? Because if he doesn't, he might end up a 4-3 version of D'Onfrio (let's hope not right?)

Isn't Coach Macho a defensive minded poster on here? Any thoughts Coach Macho???

 

[Jeeperaf]

Franchise makes a great link between the de-valued style of Andrews and one of
Their prot*g*s, our current dc, Diaz. Modern day spread offenses began shredding Andrews at the end of his career and I also
Think this has more to do with stylistic elements than Andrews advancing age.

Enter stage left Diaz: a guy who frankly has had mediocre results the majority of his dc career in relatively the same era of
Offenses who also keeps preaching 'attack' with no end. While it's always wonderful to hear the 'better fit' to south Florida athletes under Diaz's scheme it seems borderline as non-adaptable as donofrio (just with a different scheme). I hope I'm wrong and the 'attack' for the sake of attacking that has seemingly made posters drunk with pre glee is not foreboding of stubborn, unadaptable, and unintelligent playcalling.

Also concerning and odd to me is his orchestral component: where he tries to merge a different set of playcalls from the front seven and back four. Is anyone else overly concerned by this complexity in trying to unify multiple sets of playcalls from a guy with a mediocre playcalling history?

Aranda, dj durkin etc are modern day stud dcs whom also attacked but with intelligent purpose.

Princess Franchisca doesn't do anything great except embarrass himself from his StarCraft Command Center. However...

You bring up a great point re: orchestral component (a question I brought up before)...

How would you feel if Diaz has learned to moderate his hyper-aggressive approach? a BIG IF for sure, but if he can tone it down a touch, do you think the Canes could end up with a 4-3 version of Aranda vs a 4-3 version of D'Onfrio?

What would you like to see differently than what he's done in the past?

The biggest risk I see with Diaz is the DL'rs penetration vs the QB's ability to release (either to RB, TE, WR, or scramble). BYU exposed that by designing a scheme to release the ball just a second before the DL'rs can disrupt, it leaves a much larger AOR for the 2nd and 3rd level defenders with at least one less body to help. Success for Diaz schemes most likely hinges on some/moderate penetration as the primary role for DL'rs to give a little more help to the back end. I just don't see how the DL'rs can achieve consistent massive penetrations in a timely manner.

 

[prinmemo]

Franchise makes a great link between the de-valued style of Andrews and one of
Their prot*g*s, our current dc, Diaz. Modern day spread offenses began shredding Andrews at the end of his career and I also
Think this has more to do with stylistic elements than Andrews advancing age.

Enter stage left Diaz: a guy who frankly has had mediocre results the majority of his dc career in relatively the same era of
Offenses who also keeps preaching 'attack' with no end. While it's always wonderful to hear the 'better fit' to south Florida athletes under Diaz's scheme it seems borderline as non-adaptable as donofrio (just with a different scheme). I hope I'm wrong and the 'attack' for the sake of attacking that has seemingly made posters drunk with pre glee is not foreboding of stubborn, unadaptable, and unintelligent playcalling.

Also concerning and odd to me is his orchestral component: where he tries to merge a different set of playcalls from the front seven and back four. Is anyone else overly concerned by this complexity in trying to unify multiple sets of playcalls from a guy with a mediocre playcalling history?

Aranda, dj durkin etc are modern day stud dcs whom also attacked but with intelligent purpose.

Princess Franchisca doesn't do anything great except embarrass himself from his StarCraft Command Center. However...

You bring up a great point re: orchestral component (a question I brought up before)...

How would you feel if Diaz has learned to moderate his hyper-aggressive approach? a BIG IF for sure, but if he can tone it down a touch, do you think the Canes could end up with a 4-3 version of Aranda vs a 4-3 version of D'Onfrio?

What would you like to see differently than what he's done in the past?

The biggest risk I see with Diaz is the DL'rs penetration vs the QB's ability to release (either to RB, TE, WR, or scramble). BYU exposed that by designing a scheme to release the ball just a second before the DL'rs can disrupt, it leaves a much larger AOR for the 2nd and 3rd level defenders with at least one less body to help. Success for Diaz schemes most likely hinges on some/moderate penetration as the primary role for DL'rs to give a little more help to the back end. I just don't see how the DL'rs can achieve consistent massive penetrations in a timely manner.

What adjustments could be made with the LBs and DBs to enable the DL to be hyper aggressive without giving up the quick play that could turn into consistent 7+ yard gains?

 

[Jeeperaf]

No Butch would have brought Schiano on board comments? I'm shocked.

We had to fall back on Diaz because we lost our top choices to more $$$. Plain and simple. Honestly though, he couldn't have landed in a better place. Once we load the roster with SoFla talent along with our outstanding D-line coach, Diaz will look like a defensive genius just by turning the dogs loose.

Even with Coach Kool elevating the DL play...can they really get the consistent aggressive penetration needed to make the past Diaz hyper-aggressive schemes work?

Thinking Diaz just needs to tone it down one notch in order to prevent (minimize) the previous gashes his squads came to be known for?

 

[Jeeperaf]

Franchise makes a great link between the de-valued style of Andrews and one of
Their prot*g*s, our current dc, Diaz. Modern day spread offenses began shredding Andrews at the end of his career and I also
Think this has more to do with stylistic elements than Andrews advancing age.

Enter stage left Diaz: a guy who frankly has had mediocre results the majority of his dc career in relatively the same era of
Offenses who also keeps preaching 'attack' with no end. While it's always wonderful to hear the 'better fit' to south Florida athletes under Diaz's scheme it seems borderline as non-adaptable as donofrio (just with a different scheme). I hope I'm wrong and the 'attack' for the sake of attacking that has seemingly made posters drunk with pre glee is not foreboding of stubborn, unadaptable, and unintelligent playcalling.

Also concerning and odd to me is his orchestral component: where he tries to merge a different set of playcalls from the front seven and back four. Is anyone else overly concerned by this complexity in trying to unify multiple sets of playcalls from a guy with a mediocre playcalling history?

Aranda, dj durkin etc are modern day stud dcs whom also attacked but with intelligent purpose.

Princess Franchisca doesn't do anything great except embarrass himself from his StarCraft Command Center. However...

You bring up a great point re: orchestral component (a question I brought up before)...

How would you feel if Diaz has learned to moderate his hyper-aggressive approach? a BIG IF for sure, but if he can tone it down a touch, do you think the Canes could end up with a 4-3 version of Aranda vs a 4-3 version of D'Onfrio?

What would you like to see differently than what he's done in the past?

The biggest risk I see with Diaz is the DL'rs penetration vs the QB's ability to release (either to RB, TE, WR, or scramble). BYU exposed that by designing a scheme to release the ball just a second before the DL'rs can disrupt, it leaves a much larger AOR for the 2nd and 3rd level defenders with at least one less body to help. Success for Diaz schemes most likely hinges on some/moderate penetration as the primary role for DL'rs to give a little more help to the back end. I just don't see how the DL'rs can achieve consistent massive penetrations in a timely manner.

What adjustments could be made with the LBs and DBs to enable the DL to be hyper aggressive without giving up the quick play that could turn into consistent 7+ yard gains?

That's a key question! Look at the question from a tactics/military perspective: are there weapon systems out their to give the defense that capability?

I'd argue it is humanly impossible, play after play, for any collection of athletes to cover that much AOR in the 2nd and 3rd levels if an aggressive DL doesn't get the necessary disruption in the back field.

I know I'm stating the obvious, but Diaz has got to get the right combination of scheme (tactics) to compliment his available weapon systems (athletes). Yes...yes...I know...no fuqn kidding right? But the principle is very important. If he can't do that, the Canes are going to end up with a 4-3 version of D'Onfrio rather and Aranda (and who knows if he has success at LSU).

I think the defense's success is weighed far more towards the DL's utilization than the 2nd or 3rd level players.

 

[prinmemo]

Franchise makes a great link between the de-valued style of Andrews and one of
Their prot*g*s, our current dc, Diaz. Modern day spread offenses began shredding Andrews at the end of his career and I also
Think this has more to do with stylistic elements than Andrews advancing age.

Enter stage left Diaz: a guy who frankly has had mediocre results the majority of his dc career in relatively the same era of
Offenses who also keeps preaching 'attack' with no end. While it's always wonderful to hear the 'better fit' to south Florida athletes under Diaz's scheme it seems borderline as non-adaptable as donofrio (just with a different scheme). I hope I'm wrong and the 'attack' for the sake of attacking that has seemingly made posters drunk with pre glee is not foreboding of stubborn, unadaptable, and unintelligent playcalling.

Also concerning and odd to me is his orchestral component: where he tries to merge a different set of playcalls from the front seven and back four. Is anyone else overly concerned by this complexity in trying to unify multiple sets of playcalls from a guy with a mediocre playcalling history?

Aranda, dj durkin etc are modern day stud dcs whom also attacked but with intelligent purpose.

Princess Franchisca doesn't do anything great except embarrass himself from his StarCraft Command Center. However...

You bring up a great point re: orchestral component (a question I brought up before)...

How would you feel if Diaz has learned to moderate his hyper-aggressive approach? a BIG IF for sure, but if he can tone it down a touch, do you think the Canes could end up with a 4-3 version of Aranda vs a 4-3 version of D'Onfrio?

What would you like to see differently than what he's done in the past?

The biggest risk I see with Diaz is the DL'rs penetration vs the QB's ability to release (either to RB, TE, WR, or scramble). BYU exposed that by designing a scheme to release the ball just a second before the DL'rs can disrupt, it leaves a much larger AOR for the 2nd and 3rd level defenders with at least one less body to help. Success for Diaz schemes most likely hinges on some/moderate penetration as the primary role for DL'rs to give a little more help to the back end. I just don't see how the DL'rs can achieve consistent massive penetrations in a timely manner.

What adjustments could be made with the LBs and DBs to enable the DL to be hyper aggressive without giving up the quick play that could turn into consistent 7+ yard gains?

That's a key question! Look at the question from a tactics/military perspective: are there weapon systems out their to give the defense that capability?

I'd argue it is humanly impossible, play after play, for any collection of athletes to cover that much AOR in the 2nd and 3rd levels if an aggressive DL doesn't get the necessary disruption in the back field.

I know I'm stating the obvious, but Diaz has got to get the right combination of scheme (tactics) to compliment his available weapon systems (athletes). Yes...yes...I know...no fuqn kidding right? But the principle is very important. If he can't do that, the Canes are going to end up with a 4-3 version of D'Onfrio rather and Aranda (and who knows if he has success at LSU).

Diaz is getting paid a lot of money plus the opportunity to show out for an NFL DC job / college football HC job to figure it out. Although his D has been known to get gashed, he has never been as bad as No D. He will either be mediocre (better than No D) or very good. Mediocre will not be good enough.

I think you're right that he will need to tone it down.

 

[DTP]

I think ideally, Diaz would like to run a lot of what Randy Shannon did best, man under cover 2 but the lack of quality cornerbacks is going to put a cap on how much he can use that technique. However what Manny and Randy have in common is the shared belief that negative yardage plays are what actually create "stops" and they're willing to risk an occasional big chunk play to get as many negative yardage plays as possible. It's the total opposite of what Golden/D'Onofrio wanted to do which was limit big plays and force a defense to nickle and dime you all the way down the field. Unfortunately, that happened waaaay too much here. Too many times the opponent converted an easy third and two because the defense made no penetration on first or second down and allowed positive yardage plays (even if they were only 3 or 4 yard gains).

 

[Jeeperaf]

DTP...spot on...

So perhaps Diaz runs a base backend scheme of Cover 3 (or variant) as a compromise? Aggressive DL to cause backfield chaos, extra safety to help stop runs, and deeper corners to prevent big passes. The big problem with my theory are the short timed releases...exactly how BYU destroyed UT.

No DL is ever going to get consistent penetration to stop that type of well executed O scheme. So we are back to Aranda's "conservative aggressive" approach. What DB setup did he favor at Wisconsin (Im to lazy to look it up)?

Could that scheme work with Diaz's 4-3 base scheme?

 

[The Franchise]

I think ideally, Diaz would like to run a lot of what Randy Shannon did best, man under cover 2 but the lack of quality cornerbacks is going to put a cap on how much he can use that technique. However what Manny and Randy have in common is the shared belief that negative yardage plays are what actually create "stops" and they're willing to risk an occasional big chunk play to get as many negative yardage plays as possible. It's the total opposite of what Golden/D'Onofrio wanted to do which was limit big plays and force a defense to nickle and dime you all the way down the field. Unfortunately, that happened waaaay too much here. Too many times the opponent converted an easy third and two because the defense made no penetration on first or second down and allowed positive yardage plays (even if they were only 3 or 4 yard gains).

Actually, Diaz is completely risk averse. He does not typically give up big plays. His problem is getting picked apart on 2nd and long. He tends to allow a lot of intermediate completions and has trouble getting off the field.