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DancingBear said:
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2018/10/24/ncaa-corruption-fbi-trial-verdict-analysis
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Yah.....No chance. What I learned from this article is that the NCAA and Addidas won big time. These teams and Addidas earned hundreds of millions of dollars and in exchange they have 3 guys who will end up getting 2 years of prison time. I am 100% positive that if the schools ADs and addidas execs could go back in time and choose not to cheat they would 100% do it again.
 
College football in the South is what universities/colleges are to New England.

Education is a serious income stream for New England. Internet is actually starting to flourish now in Boston, but without the universities, the Northeast would take a hit.

No one goes to Auburn, LSU or Alabama for an education. Georgia is decent and Florida is still a good school, though its decline since 1995 has been marked.

These foundations are untouchable for now. IRS cannot attack them.....
 
canesproponent said:
College football in the South is what universities/colleges are to New England.

Education is a serious income stream for New England. Internet is actually starting to flourish now in Boston, but without the universities, the Northeast would take a hit.

No one goes to Auburn, LSU or Alabama for an education. Georgia is decent and Florida is still a good school, though its decline since 1995 has been marked.

These foundations are untouchable for now. IRS cannot attack them.....
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University of Georgia is a better school than Miami. It’s ranked higher. No knock against Cane alums but Just sayin’
 
canesproponent said:
College football in the South is what universities/colleges are to New England.

Education is a serious income stream for New England. Internet is actually starting to flourish now in Boston, but without the universities, the Northeast would take a hit.

No one goes to Auburn, LSU or Alabama for an education. Georgia is decent and Florida is still a good school, though its decline since 1995 has been marked.

These foundations are untouchable for now. IRS cannot attack them.....
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You apparently don't know the federal government that well. Money is always the primary driving force.
 
The Svengali said:
University of Georgia is a better school than Miami. It’s ranked higher. No knock against Cane alums but Just sayin’
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Rankings don't mean ****. UGA is not a better school. You have 0 chance of landing any good Investment Banking, Private Equity, etc. jobs straight out of college if you go to UGA. 0 chance. Those rankings factor in BS majors like teaching, communications, philosophy, etc. UGA may be better at those majors, but majors that actually will get you far in the real world UM has them beat.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Rankings don't mean ****. UGA is not a better school. You have 0 chance of landing any good Investment Banking, Private Equity, etc. jobs straight out of college if you go to UGA. 0 chance. Those rankings factor in BS majors like teaching, communications, philosophy, etc. UGA may be better at those majors, but majors that actually will get you far in the real world UM has them beat.
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Very close to true but not entirely. Don't discount nepotism and relationships. I spent years at a very large global asset management firm and some of the people I was recruited alongside had zero business being there.

We hired a kid that went to Arkansas because he was a friend of the market manager's son. It didn't pan out well for him.

As for the rankings, they're largely are based on graduate schools, in particular, medicine and law. There are weird factors like freshmen retention and alumni giving rates that have next to nothing to do with quality of education.

But no, in no world is Georgia a better school than Miami.
 
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CashMoneyCane said:
Very close to true but not entirely. Don't discount nepotism and relationships. I spent years at a very large global asset management firm and some of the people I was recruited alongside had zero business being there.

We hired a kid that went to Arkansas because he was a friend of the market manager's son. It didn't pan out well for him.

As for the rankings, they're largely are based on graduate schools, in particular, medicine and law. There are weird factors like freshmen retention and alumni giving rates that have next to nothing to do with quality of education.

But no, in no world is Georgia a better school than Miami.
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Well ya obviously. If your father is a partner at a large firm and you graduate from FAU you could still get the job, but that has no bearing on how good a school is.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Rankings don't mean ****. UGA is not a better school. You have 0 chance of landing any good Investment Banking, Private Equity, etc. jobs straight out of college if you go to UGA. 0 chance. Those rankings factor in BS majors like teaching, communications, philosophy, etc. UGA may be better at those majors, but majors that actually will get you far in the real world UM has them beat.
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UM is a decent, nothing special school that desperately tries to be something it can never be; the duke of the further south. We will never even be remotely close to that type of academic school.

They spent 2 billion dollars, inflated grades, made entrance requirements tougher, and destroyed the football program to try to be a top academic institution and guess what? We are back where we started, out of the top 50.
 
boxtonenyc said:
UM is a decent, nothing special school that desperately tries to be something it can never be; the duke of the further south. We will never even be remotely close to that type of academic school.

They spent 2 billion dollars, inflated grades, made entrance requirements tougher, and destroyed the football program to try to be a top academic institution and guess what? We are back where we started, out of the top 50.
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Obviously we are not on Dukes level, but we are still levels above UGA.
 
My old roommate is a Georgia business grad and MBA and he has killed it in the finance world. No knock on Miami but Georgia is a very good school and hard as **** to get into.
 
Canedog said:
My old roommate is a Georgia business grad and MBA and he has killed it in the finance world. No knock on Miami but Georgia is a very good school and hard as **** to get into.
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These guys on here have no earthly idea what they’re talking about.
 
CashMoneyCane said:
Very close to true but not entirely. Don't discount nepotism and relationships. I spent years at a very large global asset management firm and some of the people I was recruited alongside had zero business being there.

We hired a kid that went to Arkansas because he was a friend of the market manager's son. It didn't pan out well for him.

As for the rankings, they're largely are based on graduate schools, in particular, medicine and law. There are weird factors like freshmen retention and alumni giving rates that have next to nothing to do with quality of education.

But no, in no world is Georgia a better school than Miami.
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Grad school rankings are seperate from undergrad rankings
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Obviously we are not on Dukes level, but we are still levels above UGA.
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No Miami isn’t. In no known universe does Miami have better academics than Georgia. Georgia is a better school than Miami, top to bottom. Better undergrad from soup to nuts, better law school, better MBA program, better international affairs. Miami has a better med school and that’s about it.
 
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The Svengali said:
No Miami isn’t. In no known universe does Miami have better academics than Georgia. Georgia is a better school than Miami, top to bottom. Better undergrad, better law school, better MBA program, better international affairs. Miami has a better med school and that’s about it.
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False. What sort of qualifications do you have to base your opinion? This is a straight fact. UGA resumes get thrown out when submitted for good banking/finance jobs in NYC. I know this for a fact because these resumes get kicked up to me. UM resumes have a chance of getting looked at assuming the GPA is high enough. Just because you read something in US News doesn't mean it is true. Like I said UGA may be better in useless degrees like teaching, communications, philosophy, etc. However, for any real degree, Miami will be better. As far as law schools go I wouldn't hire a lawyer that graduated from either one of those schools.
 
Canedog said:
My old roommate is a Georgia business grad and MBA and he has killed it in the finance world. No knock on Miami but Georgia is a very good school and hard as **** to get into.
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Does he work in NYC or in another country? If not, then he is not killing it in the finance world.
 
You don’t know shiat for a fact. Stop it. I’m much older than you, and have waaay more career experience. I KNOW these schools because I actually vet resumes, interview and hire Employees and have done so for nearly a decade. I live and work in New York, but the world is much bigger than New York. Ever heard of Atlanta or Charlotte? They have banking presences too, but there are many more jobs out there than finance.

My qualifications are: I have 3 degrees from some of the best universities in the world, an Ivy MBA, I worked at 2 of the top 3 consulting firms in the world, and I made partner. I’m telling you flat out both my former firms recruited UGA and Emory hard in the state of GA. UGA is looked upon more favorably than Miami in consultant and finance (where the big dogs play).
 
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