Why are FSU fans thrilled about Taggart?

[nycane]

Leavitt is getting WAY too much love on this board.

exactly.

we also already tried the black kids will want to play for the black coach thing 10 years ago and it didnt work wit radio. most of these kids arent making adecision based on race of the coach.

When I was a Georgetown student and basketball fan in the early '80's I thought top black basketball recruits would all want to come play for John Thompson Sr. I found that wasn't true at all.

Most recruits don't care.

Black kids want to see the field, win, get paid, make the NFL...just like white kids. Race is almost nothing; convincing kids they can do those things at your program is almost everything.

Even when people think Charlie Strong was getting kids it was really because Randy got fired and Clint Hurtt was playing games.

 

[SmokeyRone]

Leavitt is getting WAY too much love on this board.

exactly.

we also already tried the black kids will want to play for the black coach thing 10 years ago and it didnt work wit radio. most of these kids arent making adecision based on race of the coach.

When I was a Georgetown student and basketball fan in the early '80's I thought top black basketball recruits would all want to come play for John Thompson Sr. I found that wasn't true at all.

Most recruits don't care.

Black kids want to see the field, win, get paid, make the NFL...just like white kids. Race is almost nothing; convincing kids they can do those things at your program is almost everything.

Even when people think Charlie Strong was getting kids it was really because Randy got fired and Clint Hurtt was playing games.

Plus UL was a natural target for renegade type recruits and lose NCAA adherence. ****, didnt Radio take on a role as a volunteer, freelance recruiter for Strong at UL when he was fired?

 

[Canezum5]

Leavitt is getting WAY too much love on this board.

exactly.

we also already tried the black kids will want to play for the black coach thing 10 years ago and it didnt work wit radio. most of these kids arent making a decision based on race of the coach.

That's because 99% of the time its the parents decision no matter what the parents and kids tell the reporters.

The parents that understand the game and want the best for their kids, see the forest for the trees.

That's why youll get lifers like Duke Johnson but not phenoms like Dalvin Cook.

Lucky for us we got a coach that can have backs like Gurley, Chubb, and Michel all on the same **** team at the same **** time.

 

[TheMatador]

exactly.

we also already tried the black kids will want to play for the black coach thing 10 years ago and it didnt work wit radio. most of these kids arent making adecision based on race of the coach.

When I was a Georgetown student and basketball fan in the early '80's I thought top black basketball recruits would all want to come play for John Thompson Sr. I found that wasn't true at all.

Most recruits don't care.

Black kids want to see the field, win, get paid, make the NFL...just like white kids. Race is almost nothing; convincing kids they can do those things at your program is almost everything.

Even when people think Charlie Strong was getting kids it was really because Randy got fired and Clint Hurtt was playing games.

Plus UL was a natural target for renegade type recruits and lose NCAA adherence. ****, didnt Radio take on a role as a volunteer, freelance recruiter for Strong at UL when he was fired?

You're saying Randy started recruiting for Strong as a volunteer when he got fired by UM? I never heard that story but I'm not saying I should have. I'm not in south Florida and I'm not plugged into that kind of stuff. Was he doing that specifically to hurt UM? Pretty sleazy, if he was.

When I followed John Thompson Sr. closey I naively thought since he was one of a very small number of major Div. 1 black coaches that he would have a big advantage in recruiting. All i know is, he often whiffed on a lot of players I thought he was recruiting. He had the one great recruiting class when he pulled in Patrick Ewing and the two top D.C. kids, Billy Martin and Anthony Jones. Martin was a solid forward for Georgetown, Jones ended up transferring out to UNLV and was never a great player. Jones was from D.C. Dunbar and probably top 5 in the country while Martin was top 15; Ewing of course was no. 1.

After that, Thompson pulled in a top recruit here and there, but didn't dominate. He often did best with D.C. area and Baltimore kids. He also brought in a bunch of projects like UM used to do in football.

Besides, most football staffs have multiple Black coaches now so the whole idea of a Black kid being more attracted to a Black coach means nothing these days. I remember when staffs used to have maybe one Black coach. That was early '80's. No more. Plus there are so many other staff members involved in the football program such as S&C, grad assistants, volunteer coaches, recruiting staff, etc.

Our recruiting coordinator in the Schnellenberger years was a woman, Suzy Wilkoff. She was more of an administrative assistant/secretary type. She did get together with recruits when they came in, but didn't go out and recruit. Before that, she held a similar job with SMU, where she was involved in recruiting the Pony Express (Craig James and Eric ****erson). I last saw her at a UM-FSU game in the late '80's. She had long since left the staff to work at an airlines.

Everything has gotten bigger and more complex.

 

[SmokeyRone]

When I was a Georgetown student and basketball fan in the early '80's I thought top black basketball recruits would all want to come play for John Thompson Sr. I found that wasn't true at all.

Most recruits don't care.

Black kids want to see the field, win, get paid, make the NFL...just like white kids. Race is almost nothing; convincing kids they can do those things at your program is almost everything.

Even when people think Charlie Strong was getting kids it was really because Randy got fired and Clint Hurtt was playing games.

Plus UL was a natural target for renegade type recruits and lose NCAA adherence. ****, didnt Radio take on a role as a volunteer, freelance recruiter for Strong at UL when he was fired?

You're saying Randy started recruiting for Strong as a volunteer when he got fired by UM? I never heard that story but I'm not saying I should have. I'm not in south Florida and I'm not plugged into that kind of stuff. Was he doing that specifically to hurt UM? Pretty sleazy, if he was.

When I followed John Thompson Sr. closey I naively thought since he was one of a very small number of major Div. 1 black coaches that he would have a big advantage in recruiting. All i know is, he often whiffed on a lot of players I thought he was recruiting. He had the one great recruiting class when he pulled in Patrick Ewing and the two top D.C. kids, Billy Martin and Anthony Jones. Martin was a solid forward for Georgetown, Jones ended up transferring out to UNLV and was never a great player. Jones was from D.C. Dunbar and probably top 5 in the country while Martin was top 15; Ewing of course was no. 1.

After that, Thompson pulled in a top recruit here and there, but didn't dominate. He often did best with D.C. area and Baltimore kids. He also brought in a bunch of projects like UM used to do in football.

Besides, most football staffs have multiple Black coaches now so the whole idea of a Black kid being more attracted to a Black coach means nothing these days. I remember when staffs used to have maybe one Black coach. That was early '80's. No more. Plus there are so many other staff members involved in the football program such as S&C, grad assistants, volunteer coaches, recruiting staff, etc.

Our recruiting coordinator in the Schnellenberger years was a woman, Suzy Wilkoff. She was more of an administrative assistant/secretary type. She did get together with recruits when they came in, but didn't go out and recruit. Before that, she held a similar job with SMU, where she was involved in recruiting the Pony Express (Craig James and Eric ****erson). I last saw her at a UM-FSU game in the late '80's. She had long since left the staff to work at an airlines.

Everything has gotten bigger and more complex.

I remember something of the sort.

 

[mackjones]

Leavitt is getting WAY too much love on this board.

exactly.

we also already tried the black kids will want to play for the black coach thing 10 years ago and it didnt work wit radio. most of these kids arent making adecision based on race of the coach.

When I was a Georgetown student and basketball fan in the early '80's I thought top black basketball recruits would all want to come play for John Thompson Sr. I found that wasn't true at all.

Most recruits don't care.

Yeah. Most of those ' soul brothers' ended up playing for Jerry Thee Shark Tarkanian back in the day. hUh.

 

[Tee3000]

Leavitt is getting WAY too much love on this board.

exactly.

we also already tried the black kids will want to play for the black coach thing 10 years ago and it didnt work wit radio. most of these kids arent making adecision based on race of the coach.

When I was a Georgetown student and basketball fan in the early '80's I thought top black basketball recruits would all want to come play for John Thompson Sr. I found that wasn't true at all.

Most recruits don't care.

Black kids want to see the field, win, get paid, make the NFL...just like white kids. Race is almost nothing; convincing kids they can do those things at your program is almost everything.

Exactly...we black parents don't care about that **** either.

I'm sending my kid to the place best for him...race be damned.

 

[nycane]

Leavitt is getting WAY too much love on this board.

exactly.

we also already tried the black kids will want to play for the black coach thing 10 years ago and it didnt work wit radio. most of these kids arent making adecision based on race of the coach.

When I was a Georgetown student and basketball fan in the early '80's I thought top black basketball recruits would all want to come play for John Thompson Sr. I found that wasn't true at all.

Most recruits don't care.

Black kids want to see the field, win, get paid, make the NFL...just like white kids. Race is almost nothing; convincing kids they can do those things at your program is almost everything.

Exactly...we black parents don't care about that **** either.

I'm sending my kid to the place best for him...race be damned.

football is a way out for alot of kids. If Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, etc is going to help them achieve their dreams,they dont care about race at all.

 

[The Iceman]

From what I hear....good recruiter and normally assembles a good staff.

 

[The Iceman]

They are thrilled because they think a black HC is going to run the state...I tried to tell these idiots that I was a Miami idiot that thought Randy would do the same.

Shannon, Sly Croom, Sumlin, Locksley = all black and all fired.

I agree that race isn't that important but Shannon was too old school for these kids.
Strong is like a drill sergeant while Taggart is more closer to a Deion Sanders personality but more turned down.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

They are thrilled because they think a black HC is going to run the state...I tried to tell these idiots that I was a Miami idiot that thought Randy would do the same.

Shannon, Sly Croom, Sumlin, Locksley = all black and all fired.

McElwain, Bielema, Jones, Graham, Mora, Riley, Summers, Andersen, Bailiff, Hudspeth,...all white coaches and all fired...THIS YEAR.

African American HC hires deserve just as much of a chance to succeed or fail as their white counterparts.

 

[BigJoeGrizzly]

Who said that African American coaches shouldn’t get as much of a chance as their white counterparts? This is Miami not Tuscaloosa.

 

[Bennubird]

Because they attend fsu.

 

[daytonacane]

I know Richt is laughing his *** off....

Doubt it. He has to scheme against leavitt once a year now.

Agree. Actually, I am more concerned about Jim Leavitt than Willie T.

 

[Unsider]

He was the only date left before the bar closed at 2 am. Anything looks pretty good under those circumstances. And, it is one notch above their cucked counterparts in the swamp.

 

[TexasCane90]

Black kids want to see the field, win, get paid, make the NFL...just like white kids. Race is almost nothing; convincing kids they can do those things at your program is almost everything.

Even when people think Charlie Strong was getting kids it was really because Randy got fired and Clint Hurtt was playing games.

Plus UL was a natural target for renegade type recruits and lose NCAA adherence. ****, didnt Radio take on a role as a volunteer, freelance recruiter for Strong at UL when he was fired?

You're saying Randy started recruiting for Strong as a volunteer when he got fired by UM? I never heard that story but I'm not saying I should have. I'm not in south Florida and I'm not plugged into that kind of stuff. Was he doing that specifically to hurt UM? Pretty sleazy, if he was.

When I followed John Thompson Sr. closey I naively thought since he was one of a very small number of major Div. 1 black coaches that he would have a big advantage in recruiting. All i know is, he often whiffed on a lot of players I thought he was recruiting. He had the one great recruiting class when he pulled in Patrick Ewing and the two top D.C. kids, Billy Martin and Anthony Jones. Martin was a solid forward for Georgetown, Jones ended up transferring out to UNLV and was never a great player. Jones was from D.C. Dunbar and probably top 5 in the country while Martin was top 15; Ewing of course was no. 1.

After that, Thompson pulled in a top recruit here and there, but didn't dominate. He often did best with D.C. area and Baltimore kids. He also brought in a bunch of projects like UM used to do in football.

Besides, most football staffs have multiple Black coaches now so the whole idea of a Black kid being more attracted to a Black coach means nothing these days. I remember when staffs used to have maybe one Black coach. That was early '80's. No more. Plus there are so many other staff members involved in the football program such as S&C, grad assistants, volunteer coaches, recruiting staff, etc.

Our recruiting coordinator in the Schnellenberger years was a woman, Suzy Wilkoff. She was more of an administrative assistant/secretary type. She did get together with recruits when they came in, but didn't go out and recruit. Before that, she held a similar job with SMU, where she was involved in recruiting the Pony Express (Craig James and Eric ****erson). I last saw her at a UM-FSU game in the late '80's. She had long since left the staff to work at an airlines.

Everything has gotten bigger and more complex.

I remember something of the sort.

Smoorrkeyyyyy come back to the WEZZZZ