Who will start at QB next Season?

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

Based on some of the threads I just read I'm a little confused... If the Defense was the weakest unit on the team & the reason we lost 3 in a row, why do so many want a new QB?

If the Defense is the biggest issue on the team like I keep seeing, then doesn't that mean we don't actually need another QB? I mean the offense carried the team like yall said, so what's all this new QB talk about?

Same goes with the recent suggestions for Coaches I keep seeing, if what yall was saying about how bad the Defense was then why does everybody want us to add offensive coaches? Shouldn't it be the other way?

I think that means many know deep down this Offense isn't nowhere near as good as it supposed to be, but because it's Richt's side of the ball people just don't wanna criticize him, which I get.

It's beyond obvious we need a new QB if we ever plan on winning the ACC, Rosier is not the answer Idc how much he "improves" this offseason he's not leading us to #6 .

We're heading into year 3 of Richt's Offense, why would he still want to hamstring himself with another year of Foley's QB's

Richt is the OC & de facto QB coach, his job is to develop the QB's & put them in the best position possible to execute his Offense. If he stuck with Rosier for the 2018 season that would mean he missed on 3 evals (Perry/Weldon/Williams) & isn't actually confident in his system. Which we all know he is, so it would make literally no sense whatsoever to not give Perry or Williams the shot.

There's no more young QB excuse, TF's & Red Frosh lead teams to conference & national championships all the time in today's era of college football, every aspect of our team needs improvement, but if Richt is going to stay the OC the Offense/QB is his responsibility, time to get it done & I believe he will.

No one said the defense was the weakest unit on the field. The defense being bad on 3rd down and Rosier being terrible in general are mutually exclusive and valid observations.

Everyone knows the Defense was bad on 3rd down, but from the threads I've seen it seems like people were going beyond that & saying the Defense was just bad period.

And I don't believe they're mutually exclusive, if the Defense was as bad as some have said then we would've lost a lot more games than we did. Bad Defense + terrible QB= 10 wins & Coastal title? Doesn't add up to me. Probably means one wasn't as bad as its portrayed.

I'm just saying I saw multiple threads where people went in depth on how bad the Defense was, every stat posted to show how bad they were, yet not a single thread posting the Offensive stats this season.

The Defense definitely struggled, they're not perfect or beyond criticism in any way, but they were at least top 5 in different categories & not just aimless categories, TFL's, Sacks & Turnovers matter big time, I would love to see an offensive stat that we were even in the top 25 in.

Point being, this offseason we have a chance to go from being good to great, all 3 phases of the game need to be improved & that's been discussed, I just find it interesting that on the Defensive side of the ball no one is calling for a new coach, but yet many say they were the big problem in our losses. While at the same time everyone wants drastic change on Offense, which leads me to believe that people know the Offense was actually worse & needs the most improvement.

Probably because the offense has been discussed all year long. Few people would dispute that the offense had issues — most notably Rosier’s accuracy and the failure to convert in short yardage situations. However, the defense largely got a free pass prior to the bowl game even though they played poorly down the stretch (i.e., after the ND game).

 

[Canegrad89]

The Defense was not the primary reason we lost the last three games. The primary reasons were:

The Offense not being able to run the ball effectively
Rosier's accuracy declining significantly
The loss of our top three weapons on offense
Whole team came out flat against Pitt (Rosier admitted he was starting to take wins for granted at that point -- so he lacked focus)
Lack of Bye weeks due to the Hurricane. I do think the long string of back-to-back games took its toll on the whole team

The Defense wasn't perfect but the impact of those strong Turnover and TFL stats was huge in at least ten games this season. If the Offense had played at the same level as the Defense throughout the season, we probably would have won the Pitt and Wisconsin games (only the crooked Badgers excessive holding of both our DL & DBs -- and our 23 yard FG miss -- might have prevented that).

 

[mackjones]

Perry
Rosier
Sheriffs
Williams

LOL... your boy Sheriff's absolutely SuCKS!!! Albeit metaphorically speaking. hUh.

 

[mackjones]

The Defense was not the primary reason we lost the last three games. The primary reasons were:

The Offense not being able to run the ball effectively
Rosier's accuracy declining significantly
The loss of our top three weapons on offense
Whole team came out flat against Pitt (Rosier admitted he was starting to take wins for granted at that point -- so he lacked focus)
Lack of Bye weeks due to the Hurricane. I do think the long string of back-to-back games took its toll on the whole team

The Defense wasn't perfect but the impact of those strong Turnover and TFL stats was huge in at least ten games this season. If the Offense had played at the same level as the Defense throughout the season, we probably would have won the Pitt and Wisconsin games (only the crooked Badgers excessive holding of both our DL & DBs -- and our 23 yard FG miss -- might have prevented that).

Miami won't be among the Elite of the elite, until the offensive line makes a MAJOR improvement, and a SOLID signal caller emerges. Until then, Miami will continue to probably win ten regular season games, and play in the ACC title game. But never get a sniff of the CFP. hUh.

 

[mackjones]

Based on some of the threads I just read I'm a little confused... If the Defense was the weakest unit on the team & the reason we lost 3 in a row, why do so many want a new QB?

If the Defense is the biggest issue on the team like I keep seeing, then doesn't that mean we don't actually need another QB? I mean the offense carried the team like yall said, so what's all this new QB talk about?

Same goes with the recent suggestions for Coaches I keep seeing, if what yall was saying about how bad the Defense was then why does everybody want us to add offensive coaches? Shouldn't it be the other way?

I think that means many know deep down this Offense isn't nowhere near as good as it supposed to be, but because it's Richt's side of the ball people just don't wanna criticize him, which I get.

It's beyond obvious we need a new QB if we ever plan on winning the ACC, Rosier is not the answer Idc how much he "improves" this offseason he's not leading us to #6 .

We're heading into year 3 of Richt's Offense, why would he still want to hamstring himself with another year of Foley's QB's

Richt is the OC & de facto QB coach, his job is to develop the QB's & put them in the best position possible to execute his Offense. If he stuck with Rosier for the 2018 season that would mean he missed on 3 evals (Perry/Weldon/Williams) & isn't actually confident in his system. Which we all know he is, so it would make literally no sense whatsoever to not give Perry or Williams the shot.

There's no more young QB excuse, TF's & Red Frosh lead teams to conference & national championships all the time in today's era of college football, every aspect of our team needs improvement, but if Richt is going to stay the OC the Offense/QB is his responsibility, time to get it done & I believe he will.

Voila!

Oh, and one more notion. It's highly possible that these good ol' boys, whom profess to be Cane fan, have no CLUE on what it means to be a true Orange and Green Cane fan of the Nth degree. hUh. In other words, these same good ol' boys are probably BANDWAGON dudes and all that. OUCH!

 

[kev13108]

Weldon not even an option?

He's looked pretty average in practice... granted he's with the scouts but Perry and Williams are far more talented IMO

 

[westcoastcanes]

Based on some of the threads I just read I'm a little confused... If the Defense was the weakest unit on the team & the reason we lost 3 in a row, why do so many want a new QB?

If the Defense is the biggest issue on the team like I keep seeing, then doesn't that mean we don't actually need another QB? I mean the offense carried the team like yall said, so what's all this new QB talk about?

Same goes with the recent suggestions for Coaches I keep seeing, if what yall was saying about how bad the Defense was then why does everybody want us to add offensive coaches? Shouldn't it be the other way?

I think that means many know deep down this Offense isn't nowhere near as good as it supposed to be, but because it's Richt's side of the ball people just don't wanna criticize him, which I get.

It's beyond obvious we need a new QB if we ever plan on winning the ACC, Rosier is not the answer Idc how much he "improves" this offseason he's not leading us to #6 .

We're heading into year 3 of Richt's Offense, why would he still want to hamstring himself with another year of Foley's QB's

Richt is the OC & de facto QB coach, his job is to develop the QB's & put them in the best position possible to execute his Offense. If he stuck with Rosier for the 2018 season that would mean he missed on 3 evals (Perry/Weldon/Williams) & isn't actually confident in his system. Which we all know he is, so it would make literally no sense whatsoever to not give Perry or Williams the shot.

There's no more young QB excuse, TF's & Red Frosh lead teams to conference & national championships all the time in today's era of college football, every aspect of our team needs improvement, but if Richt is going to stay the OC the Offense/QB is his responsibility, time to get it done & I believe he will.

No one said the defense was the weakest unit on the field. The defense being bad on 3rd down and Rosier being terrible in general are mutually exclusive and valid observations.

Everyone knows the Defense was bad on 3rd down, but from the threads I've seen it seems like people were going beyond that & saying the Defense was just bad period.

And I don't believe they're mutually exclusive, if the Defense was as bad as some have said then we would've lost a lot more games than we did. Bad Defense + terrible QB= 10 wins & Coastal title? Doesn't add up to me. Probably means one wasn't as bad as its portrayed.

I'm just saying I saw multiple threads where people went in depth on how bad the Defense was, every stat posted to show how bad they were, yet not a single thread posting the Offensive stats this season.

The Defense definitely struggled, they're not perfect or beyond criticism in any way, but they were at least top 5 in different categories & not just aimless categories, TFL's, Sacks & Turnovers matter big time, I would love to see an offensive stat that we were even in the top 25 in.

Point being, this offseason we have a chance to go from being good to great, all 3 phases of the game need to be improved & that's been discussed, I just find it interesting that on the Defensive side of the ball no one is calling for a new coach, but yet many say they were the big problem in our losses. While at the same time everyone wants drastic change on Offense, which leads me to believe that people know the Offense was actually worse & needs the most improvement.

I would like you to produce one quote saying the defense is the weakest unit on the team.

edit/ and posters with the IQ of krazy cane and broke dont count, nor does anyone that is band.

 

[SayWhat]

Season opener is against LSU, right?

Considering that, I would say ROSIER starts. Should we struggle offensively, then Perry will get his shot early on. Either way, I feel he will be worked into games until he takes over.

 

[BeastMode]

Season opener is against LSU, right?

Considering that, I would say ROSIER starts. Should we struggle offensively, then Perry will get his shot early on. Either way, I feel he will be worked into games until he takes over.

If it’s a tight battle then I can see this scenario playing out simply to get the win against LSU with a QB who has experience in big games. Who knows at this point. Richt May ride Rosier again till he messes up, then hand the keys to Perry or Williams.

 

[hotshot]

Weldon not even an option?

He's looked pretty average in practice... granted he's with the scouts but Perry and Williams are far more talented IMO

Somebody gonna transfer. 5 QBs, counting Weldon? Won't be Rosier or Shirreffs, Perry or Williams. That leaves ...

 

[ddann]

We're heading into year 3 of Richt's Offense, why would he still want to hamstring himself with another year of Foley's QB's

Richt is the OC & de facto QB coach, his job is to develop the QB's & put them in the best position possible to execute his Offense. If he stuck with Rosier for the 2018 season that would mean he missed on 3 evals (Perry/Weldon/Williams) & isn't actually confident in his system. Which we all know he is, so it would make literally no sense whatsoever to not give Perry or Williams the shot.

There's no more young QB excuse, TF's & Red Frosh lead teams to conference & national championships all the time in today's era of college football, every aspect of our team needs improvement, but if Richt is going to stay the OC the Offense/QB is his responsibility, time to get it done & I believe he will.

This is why I believe Rosier has a .0001% chance of being Miami's starting QB in 2018.

 

[tdjones34]

Season opener is against LSU, right?

Considering that, I would say ROSIER starts. Should we struggle offensively, then Perry will get his shot early on. Either way, I feel he will be worked into games until he takes over.

so we start a terrible inaccurate qb vs LSU?

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

Season opener is against LSU, right?

Considering that, I would say ROSIER starts. Should we struggle offensively, then Perry will get his shot early on. Either way, I feel he will be worked into games until he takes over.

so we start a terrible inaccurate qb vs LSU?

Yeah I don't get this line of thinking either. If it is truly an open competition, then the best QB should start in game 1. If Perry is the best QB, why would you bench him and wait for the offense to struggle to put him in?

 

[Memnon]

Based on some of the threads I just read I'm a little confused... If the Defense was the weakest unit on the team & the reason we lost 3 in a row, why do so many want a new QB?

If the Defense is the biggest issue on the team like I keep seeing, then doesn't that mean we don't actually need another QB? I mean the offense carried the team like yall said, so what's all this new QB talk about?

Same goes with the recent suggestions for Coaches I keep seeing, if what yall was saying about how bad the Defense was then why does everybody want us to add offensive coaches? Shouldn't it be the other way?

I think that means many know deep down this Offense isn't nowhere near as good as it supposed to be, but because it's Richt's side of the ball people just don't wanna criticize him, which I get.

It's beyond obvious we need a new QB if we ever plan on winning the ACC, Rosier is not the answer Idc how much he "improves" this offseason he's not leading us to #6 .

We're heading into year 3 of Richt's Offense, why would he still want to hamstring himself with another year of Foley's QB's

Richt is the OC & de facto QB coach, his job is to develop the QB's & put them in the best position possible to execute his Offense. If he stuck with Rosier for the 2018 season that would mean he missed on 3 evals (Perry/Weldon/Williams) & isn't actually confident in his system. Which we all know he is, so it would make literally no sense whatsoever to not give Perry or Williams the shot.

There's no more young QB excuse, TF's & Red Frosh lead teams to conference & national championships all the time in today's era of college football, every aspect of our team needs improvement, but if Richt is going to stay the OC the Offense/QB is his responsibility, time to get it done & I believe he will.

No one said the defense was the weakest unit on the field. The defense being bad on 3rd down and Rosier being terrible in general are mutually exclusive and valid observations.

Everyone knows the Defense was bad on 3rd down, but from the threads I've seen it seems like people were going beyond that & saying the Defense was just bad period.

And I don't believe they're mutually exclusive, if the Defense was as bad as some have said then we would've lost a lot more games than we did. Bad Defense + terrible QB= 10 wins & Coastal title? Doesn't add up to me. Probably means one wasn't as bad as its portrayed.

I'm just saying I saw multiple threads where people went in depth on how bad the Defense was, every stat posted to show how bad they were, yet not a single thread posting the Offensive stats this season.

The Defense definitely struggled, they're not perfect or beyond criticism in any way, but they were at least top 5 in different categories & not just aimless categories, TFL's, Sacks & Turnovers matter big time, I would love to see an offensive stat that we were even in the top 25 in.

Point being, this offseason we have a chance to go from being good to great, all 3 phases of the game need to be improved & that's been discussed, I just find it interesting that on the Defensive side of the ball no one is calling for a new coach, but yet many say they were the big problem in our losses. While at the same time everyone wants drastic change on Offense, which leads me to believe that people know the Offense was actually worse & needs the most improvement.

I would like you to produce one quote saying the defense is the weakest unit on the team.

edit/ and posters with the IQ of krazy cane and broke dont count, nor does anyone that is band.

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/reflections-legend/128827/6

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/instant-defensive-improvement/128945

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/final-defensive-rankings/128825/3?highlight=Defensive+stats

These 3 threads is what gave me that impression. I had been out for a while because I was busy moving & handling other stuff so I read those threads late & possibly I misinterpreted what people were saying. But from what I gather that's what I thought.

Ultiamtely, the overall point that I was making is if the Defense was so bad why not call for the same overhaul that's being called for on Offense? I'm not saying that they were great or perfect, but imo they carried this team & while they do deserve criticism I think it gets lost that our Offense is asked to only do the most basic bare minimum & they've pretty much failed doing so for 2 years in a row with 2 different QB's & multiple RB's.

Wasn't trying to attack anyone.

 

[westcoastcanes]

Based on some of the threads I just read I'm a little confused... If the Defense was the weakest unit on the team & the reason we lost 3 in a row, why do so many want a new QB?

If the Defense is the biggest issue on the team like I keep seeing, then doesn't that mean we don't actually need another QB? I mean the offense carried the team like yall said, so what's all this new QB talk about?

Same goes with the recent suggestions for Coaches I keep seeing, if what yall was saying about how bad the Defense was then why does everybody want us to add offensive coaches? Shouldn't it be the other way?

I think that means many know deep down this Offense isn't nowhere near as good as it supposed to be, but because it's Richt's side of the ball people just don't wanna criticize him, which I get.

It's beyond obvious we need a new QB if we ever plan on winning the ACC, Rosier is not the answer Idc how much he "improves" this offseason he's not leading us to #6 .

We're heading into year 3 of Richt's Offense, why would he still want to hamstring himself with another year of Foley's QB's

Richt is the OC & de facto QB coach, his job is to develop the QB's & put them in the best position possible to execute his Offense. If he stuck with Rosier for the 2018 season that would mean he missed on 3 evals (Perry/Weldon/Williams) & isn't actually confident in his system. Which we all know he is, so it would make literally no sense whatsoever to not give Perry or Williams the shot.

There's no more young QB excuse, TF's & Red Frosh lead teams to conference & national championships all the time in today's era of college football, every aspect of our team needs improvement, but if Richt is going to stay the OC the Offense/QB is his responsibility, time to get it done & I believe he will.

No one said the defense was the weakest unit on the field. The defense being bad on 3rd down and Rosier being terrible in general are mutually exclusive and valid observations.

Everyone knows the Defense was bad on 3rd down, but from the threads I've seen it seems like people were going beyond that & saying the Defense was just bad period.

And I don't believe they're mutually exclusive, if the Defense was as bad as some have said then we would've lost a lot more games than we did. Bad Defense + terrible QB= 10 wins & Coastal title? Doesn't add up to me. Probably means one wasn't as bad as its portrayed.

I'm just saying I saw multiple threads where people went in depth on how bad the Defense was, every stat posted to show how bad they were, yet not a single thread posting the Offensive stats this season.

The Defense definitely struggled, they're not perfect or beyond criticism in any way, but they were at least top 5 in different categories & not just aimless categories, TFL's, Sacks & Turnovers matter big time, I would love to see an offensive stat that we were even in the top 25 in.

Point being, this offseason we have a chance to go from being good to great, all 3 phases of the game need to be improved & that's been discussed, I just find it interesting that on the Defensive side of the ball no one is calling for a new coach, but yet many say they were the big problem in our losses. While at the same time everyone wants drastic change on Offense, which leads me to believe that people know the Offense was actually worse & needs the most improvement.

I would like you to produce one quote saying the defense is the weakest unit on the team.

edit/ and posters with the IQ of krazy cane and broke dont count, nor does anyone that is band.

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/reflections-legend/128827/6

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/instant-defensive-improvement/128945

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/final-defensive-rankings/128825/3?highlight=Defensive+stats

These 3 threads is what gave me that impression. I had been out for a while because I was busy moving & handling other stuff so I read those threads late & possibly I misinterpreted what people were saying. But from what I gather that's what I thought.

Ultiamtely, the overall point that I was making is if the Defense was so bad why not call for the same overhaul that's being called for on Offense? I'm not saying that they were great or perfect, but imo they carried this team & while they do deserve criticism I think it gets lost that our Offense is asked to only do the most basic bare minimum & they've pretty much failed doing so for 2 years in a row with 2 different QB's & multiple RB's.

Wasn't trying to attack anyone.

I generally thumbed through those threads, i dont recall anyone saying the defense was the worst unit on the team. Did you actually see that or are you just wildly exaggerating people calling out their weaknesses?

 

[SayWhat]

Season opener is against LSU, right?

Considering that, I would say ROSIER starts. Should we struggle offensively, then Perry will get his shot early on. Either way, I feel he will be worked into games until he takes over.

so we start a terrible inaccurate qb vs LSU?

Yeah I don't get this line of thinking either. If it is truly an open competition, then the best QB should start in game 1. If Perry is the best QB, why would you bench him and wait for the offense to struggle to put him in?

You can bet that the opener will be in the coaches minds when they name the starter.

LSU isn't a juggernaut or anything, but they're a solid and physical team. It will essentially be a road game for us in Dallas. First collegiate snap against a quality opponent and on the road, those aren't typically something you want to throw a green QB into.

It should be a concern. Nobody says we plan on going in to fall behind to then bring Perry off the bench. You've been around long enough not to be this dense.

 

[ddann]

You can bet that the opener will be in the coaches minds when they name the starter.

LSU isn't a juggernaut or anything, but they're a solid and physical team. It will essentially be a road game for us in Dallas. First collegiate snap against a quality opponent and on the road, those aren't typically something you want to throw a green QB into.

It should be a concern. Nobody says we plan on going in to fall behind to then bring Perry off the bench. You've been around long enough not to be this dense.

Look at Mark Richt's track record. If Perry wins the job and is ready he will have zero problem sending him out there to start vs LSU.

 

[tdjones34]

Season opener is against LSU, right?

Considering that, I would say ROSIER starts. Should we struggle offensively, then Perry will get his shot early on. Either way, I feel he will be worked into games until he takes over.

so we start a terrible inaccurate qb vs LSU?

Yeah I don't get this line of thinking either. If it is truly an open competition, then the best QB should start in game 1. If Perry is the best QB, why would you bench him and wait for the offense to struggle to put him in?

You can bet that the opener will be in the coaches minds when they name the starter.

LSU isn't a juggernaut or anything, but they're a solid and physical team. It will essentially be a road game for us in Dallas. First collegiate snap against a quality opponent and on the road, those aren't typically something you want to throw a green QB into.

It should be a concern. Nobody says we plan on going in to fall behind to then bring Perry off the bench. You've been around long enough not to be this dense.

Everyone has seen Rosier, everyone knows he sucks, LSU will beat him because he cant throw.
No way the staff plays a guy that couldn't start at west florida vs lsu

 

[NosniknoT]

I wonder if Richt will make descision in spring or wait until summer to decide. I believe I heard Rosier graduated so wouldnt that mean he could transfer if he didnt want to be a backup? Or would Richt drag out decision so Rosier would stay as backup if Perry is starter? I kinda think if Perry is not named starter after spring then Rosier will be starter to start season.

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[UknowWhat]

Weldon should be an option

Agree to this ^