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Which was the best Miami team that DIDN"T win the National Championship?

Wow, can't believe no one has said the 03 team, I mean they had six first rounders and Frank Gore. If we just keep Berlin in the shotgun all season and give Devin Hester the ball more we could've gone 12- 0.
QB: Brock Berlin and Kyle Wright (say what you will about Wright, but he had all of the physical tools)
RB: Gore, TMoss and Jarrett Payton
WR: Roscoe Parrish, Sinorce Moss, Ryan Moore, Jason Geathers and Kevin Beard
TE: KW2, Greg Olsen and Kevin Everett
OL: Veron Carey, Eric Winston, Joel Rodriguez, Rashad Butler and Carlos Joseph
DL: Vince Wilfork, Bryan Pata, Baraka Atkins, Orien Harris, Thomas Carroll and Santonio Thomas
LB: Vilma, DJ Williams, Rocky Mcintosh, Jon Beason and Jarrell Weaver
DB: Meriweather, ST, Greg Threat, Kelly Jennings, Antrel Rolle, Maurice Sikes, Alphonso Marshall, Glenn Sharpe and Marcus Maxey
 
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Gatorhater said:
85 team loss Sugar Bowl to TN in same fashion and would have won title with win. It was Johnny Majors’ game planned from that game that Jo Pa stole and used the next year. So Majors beat JJ twice. 86 team was better but both should have won titles. JJ was weak coaching bowl games.
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People forget he was 0-3 in his first three bowls here.
 
Canespride04 said:
Wow, can't believe no one has said the 03 team, I mean they had six first rounders and Frank Gore. If we just keep Berlin in the shotgun all season and give Devin Hester the ball more we could've gone 12- 0.
QB: Brock Berlin and Kyle Wright (say what you will about Wright, but he had all of the physical tools)
RB: Gore, TMoss and Jarrett Payton
WR: Roscoe Parrish, Sinorce Moss, Ryan Moore, Jason Geathers and Kevin Beard
TE: KW2, Greg Olsen and Kevin Everett
OL: Veron Carey, Eric Winston, Joel Rodriguez, Rashad Butler and Carlos Joseph
DL: Vince Wilfork, Bryan Pata, Baraka Atkins, Orien Harris, Thomas Carroll and Santonio Thomas
LB: Vilma, DJ Williams, Rocky Mcintosh, Jon Beason and Jarrell Weaver
DB: Meriweather, ST, Greg Threat, Kelly Jennings, Antrel Rolle, Maurice Sikes, Alphonso Marshall, Glenn Sharpe and Marcus Maxey
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Probably the most underutilized stable of talent, especially by the NFL Draft. This was the year that should have handed caretaker Larry a big check to retire someplace nice.
 
Canespride04 said:
Wow, can't believe no one has said the 03 team, I mean they had six first rounders and Frank Gore. If we just keep Berlin in the shotgun all season and give Devin Hester the ball more we could've gone 12- 0.
QB: Brock Berlin and Kyle Wright (say what you will about Wright, but he had all of the physical tools)
RB: Gore, TMoss and Jarrett Payton
WR: Roscoe Parrish, Sinorce Moss, Ryan Moore, Jason Geathers and Kevin Beard
TE: KW2, Greg Olsen and Kevin Everett
OL: Veron Carey, Eric Winston, Joel Rodriguez, Rashad Butler and Carlos Joseph
DL: Vince Wilfork, Bryan Pata, Baraka Atkins, Orien Harris, Thomas Carroll and Santonio Thomas
LB: Vilma, DJ Williams, Rocky Mcintosh, Jon Beason and Jarrell Weaver
DB: Meriweather, ST, Greg Threat, Kelly Jennings, Antrel Rolle, Maurice Sikes, Alphonso Marshall, Glenn Sharpe and Marcus Maxey
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Actually, the ‘03 team was mentioned earlier in this thread. Subpar offense prevented a championship caliber defense from winning the title.

But your list doesn’t take into account the fact that Gore tore his ACL early in the season vs WVU. Had he stayed healthy things might have been different.
 
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Pentagon Cane said:
This will be unpopular, but to be honest the 1986 team may have been the most overrated because the schedule was a joke. Yes, 86 squad was filled with future NFL players, but then so was the 1988 team. Yes, we beat Oklahoma in a classic. Florida wasn't very good. Neither was FSU. The 1988 was statistically a better defense against a tough schedule.
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Jimmy, himself, said the '86 team was the best team he ever coached at Miami.
 
Edward20 said:
He got thoroughly outcoached by that child rapist Jerry Sandusky that day, not JoePa. Sandusky designed his new umbrella defense for Vinny to **** up and that's exactly what he did.
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Johnny Majors gave the same defensive game plan Tennessee used in the '86 Sugar Bowl to Joe Pa. Lot of disguised blitzes, different looks.

But it wasn't some kryptonite to Miam's offense. Plenty of defenses use the same game plan against Miami in '87 and '88, and Walsh shredded them.
 
Cortez55403 said:
Agree completely. Coming off an injury from crashing his small, Vespa-like scooter, Vinnie played a lousy game. He tried to do too much rather continue what was working (Alonzo running wild). But, it was Jimmy who lost the game. He let Vinnie loose rather than run Alonzo over and over.

Most frustrating loss ever. We had the superior talent but called a terrible game. Interception after interception killed our opportunities.
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Testerverde missed the final two games of the season, and missed a ton of practice time.

And Miami coaches/AD admitted Vinny spent too much time giving press interviews/stories concerning his Heisman win.

Vinny was just completely out-of-sync.

Jimmy would be the first person to tell you he screwed up.

Stevens called a ton more run plays (including that 3rd down play inside the the 10 yard line that led to a sack on the final drive), but Vinny kept audibling out to a pass play. It was painfully obvious to everyone that Vinny was bewildered, and Jimmy should have pulled him by the facemask at some point and told him & Stevens "no more audibles." Or JJ should've benched Vinny in favor of Torretta.
 
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caneinorlando said:
Lol at the young Cane Fans dismissing the 81 Team....5 Ranked teams they beat...3 Top 10 Teams...Completely ripped off on Bogus calls against Texas and Miss....80% of That 81 team, became the 83 NC team...81 team beat #1 Penn St....83 team beat #1 Nebraska....The 81 teams Defense has been underrated for 38yrs...
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That team wasn't better than the '86 team
 
g8rh8rMD said:
Any options outside of ‘86, 2000, and 2002? I’d probably put them in that order.

Vinny threw that game, no one will ever convince me otherwise.
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Agree with everything you said. The 1992 team had a monster defense, but offense wasn't consistent. The 1988 team was a bull**** fumble call away from a championship. I'd say '88 has to be in the conversation.
 
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1986 - not really an argument.

1988 - if not for a bad start and ***** job at ND, the Canes are 11-0 and poised for a repeat. ND could have agreed to a rematch but wouldn't.

2000 - Miami might have gotten in the OB over FSU if not for an off day with a close win at home over unranked LaTech. One could argue this team was greater than the 2001 team. Morgan was an all-time great MLB and Wayne/Moss was perhaps better than Dre/Committee. 2001 had Gore, although he was a backup. 2000 had Damion Lewis, but 2001 replaced him with Vince Wilfork.

2002 - the worst call in CFB history prevented a repeat undefeated NC. The defense was occasionally suspect or lazy though, see the FSU, WVU, and VaTech games. Sean Taylor came on during the season but the team missed Ed Reed's leadership.

1981 - too far back, although the home win over #1 Penn State made me a Cane fan for life. So there's that.

1990 - Watch the 46-3 destruction of Texas and you'd vote for this team. But losses at BYU and ND ruined the season.
 
ddann said:
Actually, the ‘03 team was mentioned earlier in this thread. Subpar offense prevented a championship caliber defense from winning the title.

But your list doesn’t take into account the fact that Gore tore his ACL early in the season vs WVU. Had he stayed healthy things might have been different.
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Also, a lot of the players I mentioned had good 03 seasons like Moss, Threat and Moore, but their careers went downhill from there. I was mainly talking about on paper.
 
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