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Where were you when Notre Dame stole our NC?

My parents flew to the game so I was staying with cousins.

I remember watching - at the edge of the squeaky sofa bed in the living room - glued to the TV. I got mad every time one of my cousins turned on the light in the bathroom because we'd have to adjust the antenna on the TV to fix the picture. I went through many anxious bowls of Cap'n Crunch and Cookie Crisp in a way indicative of future drinking.

I was so confused by what happened. The announcers said fumble, they explicitly said the ball came loose but, despite the **** quality on the TV, that seemed absolutely incorrect. The ground very clearly knocked the ball loose. He was down. Worst case: that was a first down and goal within the 1 for Miami. After all, it was 4th and 7 from the 11. He was well past the first down marker. I thought to myself at the time: But first down Notre Dame?? Did they seriously call that a fumble Are they claiming a turnover on downs even though Gary was well past the first down marker? Huh? I was young but I was old enough to be furious. This was neither a fumble nor a turnover on downs. I remember going to the bathroom after to sulk. I wanted to punch something. I didn't understand!

To this day, one of the worst calls of all time. Such hot garbage.

The '87 Fiesta Bowl ('86 season) will forever live in infamy but it's hard to blame PSU when Vinny showed up drunk and threw 7 interceptions. The '93 Sugar Bowl ('92 season) loss to Alabama for the championship was a legit loss. The '94 Orange Bowl ('93 season) loss to Nebraska was a crushing late-game heartbreaker but not thievery.

We could have had eleven championships in a span of 20 years. We should have EIGHT. Because unlike 1986, 1992, and 1993 noted above: 1988 ND, 2000 BCS computers, and '03 Fiesta Bowl ('02 season) were genuine, outright stolen championships.

I will never not be angry about these robberies.
 
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Chillin my dad’s balls...so I was technically at the game
 
I was at the game in South Bend. It was a total highway robbery (standard practice when it comes to ND particularly when they play at home). The campus is nice but is in the middle of BFE (Indiana farmland) and the girls are pasty man!:) It was cold as ****. Surprisingly, I wasn't that impressed by the stadium (it actually felt like an erector set in parts compared to the Orange Bowl). Both that game & the one in the OB were both instant classics and total wars. While we may not like ND, CFB is much better when Miami and ND are both elite and playing each other.
 
SaltyCraker said:
Gatorhater said:
In South Bend sitting among next to a Nun who kept hitting me her umbrella every time I reminder her that we have more Catholics on our start 22 than ND and NO Moslems are all. That loss was extremely painful emotionally and physically. I flew her down for the rematch the next year in the OB(12 years of Catholics school left me with a deep appreciation for the Sisters). I was a good little boy until the final gun. Then I turned to her and said, "I'm so glad I was able to fly your down here so you could see the Catholic team finally beat those nasty convicts!"
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haha I remember saying similar **** as well...I was like John O'Neal, Mike Sullivan.. is a Chicago Irish catholic as you get!....our QB is named Walsh

your WR is named Ismael ...doesn't sound Irish to me
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I think the actual count was something like 10 or 11 Canes were Catholic and only a half dozen domers were(talking starters for both). Turth be known, it is exciting to have both teams be in the hunt -- as long as we bag the prize. College football has grown boring again, time for THE U to ride to the rescue and save it.
 
Mad as **** down here in Miami .... hated that play... they stole it.. **** refs
Wish JJ had had gone for PAT instead of the two point conv.
 
In Coral Gables..Richard Nixon called Jimmy and said you got robbed.

We got our revenge the next year in the OB, all time record attendance. When got the 3rd and 43 conversion I thought the OB was going to shake apart
 
mcmachete said:
My parents flew to the game so I was staying with cousins.

I remember watching - at the edge of the squeaky sofa bed in the living room - glued to the TV. I got mad every time one of my cousins turned on the light in the bathroom because we'd have to adjust the antenna on the TV to fix the picture. I went through many anxious bowls of Cap'n Crunch and Cookie Crisp in a way indicative of future drinking.

I was so confused by what happened. The announcers said fumble, they explicitly said the ball came loose but, despite the **** quality on the TV, that seemed absolutely incorrect. The ground very clearly knocked the ball loose. He was down. Worst case: that was a first down and goal within the 1 for Miami. After all, it was 4th and 7 from the 11. He was well past the first down marker. But first down Notre Dame?? Did they seriously call that a fumble? Are they claiming a turnover on downs even though Gary was well past the first down marker? Huh? I was young but I was old enough to be furious. I remember going to the bathroom after to sulk. I wanted to punch something. I didn't understand!

To this day, one of the worst calls of all time. Such hot garbage.

The '87 Fiesta Bowl ('86 season) will forever live in infamy but it's hard to blame PSU when Vinny showed up drunk and threw 7 interceptions. The '93 Sugar Bowl ('92 season) loss to Alabama for the championship was a legit loss. The '94 Orange Bowl ('93 season) loss to Nebraska was a crushing late-game heartbreaker but not thievery.

We could have had eleven championships in a span of 20 years. We should have EIGHT. Because unlike 1986, 1992, and 1993 noted above: 1988 ND, 2000 BCS computers, and '03 Fiesta Bowl ('02 season) were genuine, outright stolen championships.

I will never not be angry about these robberies.
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IT WASN'T A FUMBLE.

In fact, the refs didn't even call it a fumble. Lou Holtz did, in his biography, and that's all anyone remembers.

It was 4th and 7 from the 11. The refs (back then) were made up of a "split squad" of refs from different referee agencies (this was when Independent teams were more prevalent).

They miscommunicated, and thought it was 4th and GOAL. They even admitted such, and it was reported in the press (Sun-Sentinel.com). After the season, the NCAA outlawed "split squads" of referees.

You can tell EXACTLY what is happening by looking at all of the reactions. Jimmy Johnson ran out onto the field making the "first down" arm motion, not touching the ground in the "ball was down" motion.

The ball was spotted at the 1, where Cleveland Gary's knee was "arguably" down prior to him reaching the ball across the goal-line, and NOT at the 2 yard line where the ball was "recovered" (assuming the refs ruled it a fumble, which they did not).

Go to the 2:20:00 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9p1PBX2Rc8
 
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Sophomore in high school. Such a robbery. Fully cemented ND as the Canes' most hated rival for the rest of my life (with the Gators a close #2 ).
 
Jimmy Johnson is STILL sore about that game.He still can't stand that pipsqueak daffy duck Holtz.
 
I was at the game. Took a party bust from downtown Chicago. Before the game there was a big pep rally in a tent Jaba Jaba man was there. I was shocked to see girls at a supposed Catholic university wearing F*** U tee shirts (wouldn't be shocked these days). The stadium looked to me more like a high school than a major university. What I saw of the rest of the campus was unimpressive.

As was said here before the Irish fans were a**holes.

My seats were in the opposite end zone from the "fumble" looking at touchdown Jesus so I didn't know that it was a bad call.
 
Screaming at my television. This robbery is second only to the tragedy of the Fiesta Bowl. They both still make me furious. I hope we give them a 58-7 beat down again.

I was at the Orange Bowl on New Year's watching us beat Nebraska and praying that West Virginia would beat ND in the Fiesta Bowl. Had WV won, we still would have claimed the championship.
 
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Just watched the vid, wait whut?

Is it right that there is no pass interference if the ball is tipped? Does this mean a defender can push or hold the receiver when the receiver is in position to catch it? Or offensive pass interference, can the receiver push or hold a defender who is about to catch a tipped ball?

Was this really a rule or just a biased commentator?
 
I was 34 and watched the game at some other OB/Canes season ticketholders house. ND went undefeated in 88 and got the NC. We got revenge the next year with 3rd and 43, right in front of me in section w/row 32/on the isle. Hate ND... Hate ND lovers (media).
I've been waiting for Nov. 11 ND game all year... we will be victorious... Go Canes!
 
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I was in south bend on the far 20 getting into a fight with my friends on our road trip to that ****hole.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
mcmachete said:
My parents flew to the game so I was staying with cousins.

I remember watching - at the edge of the squeaky sofa bed in the living room - glued to the TV. I got mad every time one of my cousins turned on the light in the bathroom because we'd have to adjust the antenna on the TV to fix the picture. I went through many anxious bowls of Cap'n Crunch and Cookie Crisp in a way indicative of future drinking.

I was so confused by what happened. The announcers said fumble, they explicitly said the ball came loose but, despite the **** quality on the TV, that seemed absolutely incorrect. The ground very clearly knocked the ball loose. He was down. Worst case: that was a first down and goal within the 1 for Miami. After all, it was 4th and 7 from the 11. He was well past the first down marker. But first down Notre Dame?? Did they seriously call that a fumble? Are they claiming a turnover on downs even though Gary was well past the first down marker? Huh? I was young but I was old enough to be furious. I remember going to the bathroom after to sulk. I wanted to punch something. I didn't understand!

To this day, one of the worst calls of all time. Such hot garbage.

The '87 Fiesta Bowl ('86 season) will forever live in infamy but it's hard to blame PSU when Vinny showed up drunk and threw 7 interceptions. The '93 Sugar Bowl ('92 season) loss to Alabama for the championship was a legit loss. The '94 Orange Bowl ('93 season) loss to Nebraska was a crushing late-game heartbreaker but not thievery.

We could have had eleven championships in a span of 20 years. We should have EIGHT. Because unlike 1986, 1992, and 1993 noted above: 1988 ND, 2000 BCS computers, and '03 Fiesta Bowl ('02 season) were genuine, outright stolen championships.

I will never not be angry about these robberies.
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IT WASN'T A FUMBLE.

In fact, the refs didn't even call it a fumble. Lou Holtz did, in his biography, and that's all anyone remembers.

It was 4th and 7 from the 11. The refs (back then) were made up of a "split squad" of refs from different referee agencies (this was when Independent teams were more prevalent).

They miscommunicated, and thought it was 4th and GOAL. They even admitted such, and it was reported in the press (Sun-Sentinel.com). After the season, the NCAA outlawed "split squads" of referees.

You can tell EXACTLY what is happening by looking at all of the reactions. Jimmy Johnson ran out onto the field making the "first down" arm motion, not touching the ground in the "ball was down" motion.

The ball was spotted at the 1, where Cleveland Gary's knee was "arguably" down prior to him reaching the ball across the goal-line, and NOT at the 2 yard line where the ball was "recovered" (assuming the refs ruled it a fumble, which they did not).

Go to the 2:20:00 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9p1PBX2Rc8
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Um. Yeah. No ****. That's what I said. And I know exactly what happened. Are you confusing my inner dialog at the time for my conclusion today? I guess you didn't read all the way through.
 
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