forums

When Will People Learn?

CaneTheGaytors said:
It’s time to stop blaming the players, and start blaming the men that are paid handsomely to put them in positions to succeed.

When you have a HC corch that runs his program that doesn’t even practice with live tackling (which is basic fundamentals), how then can anyone expect for guys like Gurvan Hall (who was a killer in high school) to not horribly regress?

At the end of the day, it falls on the HC. There are many teams around the nation with way inferior talent kicking *** every week because they get the most out of their players, and game plan to their players’ strengths. Danny Miaz and crew do exactly the opposite.

If Manolo is not terminated, next season most of these young ballers are likely to regress, and then most of you guys calling the veterans jags will do the same to these kids that are now flashing.

It’s time to cut off the head of the snake. Strawley, Flake, Manolo and the rest of the cancerous athletics department tards gotta go.
Click to expand...

I think is been awhile now that everyone is blaming the coaches, don't see anyone blaming the players.
 
Advertisement
I bet NCST players wrap-up, take proper angles, don't freelance, catch interceptions, don't commit retarded penalties, don't celebrate with jewelry down by 30, and generally enjoy playing football.
 
UMprodigy said:
Couple years ago it was a water park, this year was golf, the culture and mandy are awful
Click to expand...
Yup - kids are not allowed to have fun whatsoever. Every single Freshman is required to go tubbing on Nick Saban's boat but our guys getting a day off to have some fun is the reason they suck the other 364 days of the year.
 
Southcane said:
Huh? You haven't seen all the bashing of Pope, Wiggins, Steed, Flagg, Bolden, Jennings, etc. lately?
Click to expand...

Lately? It's been awhile, lately is all about firing Manny.
Almost every thread in the top three pages are about new coaches or firing Manny.
Hardly any about the players.
 
CaneTheGaytors said:
Many players come in their 1st year here and look good or even great, for example Shaq, Pinckney, McCloud, Couch, Harrison-Hunte, Bolden, Brooks, Jeff Thomas, etc., and then regress each year afterwards.

It’s pretty telling that a guy like D.J. Johnson is making plays at Oregon at any position that they put him in, and he couldn’t sniff the field here.

It’s time to stop blaming the players, and start blaming the men that are paid handsomely to put them in positions to succeed.

When you have a HC corch that runs his program that doesn’t even practice with live tackling (which is basic fundamentals), how then can anyone expect for guys like Gurvan Hall (who was a killer in high school) to not horribly regress?

At the end of the day, it falls on the HC. There are many teams around the nation with way inferior talent kicking *** every week because they get the most out of their players, and game plan to their players’ strengths. Danny Miaz and crew do exactly the opposite.

If Manolo is not terminated, next season most of these young ballers are likely to regress, and then most of you guys calling the veterans jags will do the same to these kids that are now flashing.

It’s time to cut off the head of the snake. Strawley, Flake, Manolo and the rest of the cancerous athletics department tards gotta go.
Click to expand...
When u play behind bad OL and DL u are going to look worse we need an elite recruiter we haven't had one since butch. Everyone thinks we have elite classes but we haven't. Y'all drink that juice
 
Dwinstitles said:
When u play behind bad OL and DL u are going to look worse we need an elite recruiter we haven't had one since butch. Everyone thinks we have elite classes but we haven't. Y'all drink that juice
Click to expand...
I haven’t drank anything, brother.

But you can’t cover the sun with your thumb either.

Do we need and want better talent? Yes.

Do we have a ton of players that have underperformed compared to their high school rankings and tape? Also, yes.

Coaches all across the nation that have way inferior talented classes are doing way more with way less.

All I am asking for is a competent staff that for starters can teach the fundamentals well, and bring a nasty/tough attitude on the field.

I’m not disputing that our talent evaluation hasn’t been lackluster, but to think that almost every top recruit that we get ends up being a jag or bust is just insane.

Every year we rehash the same arguments. It cannot be rational to think that our freshmen look good to great their 1st year, and then worse and worse the longer they are here. That relates directly to coaching, or a lack there of.
 
Advertisement
CaneTheGaytors said:
I haven’t drank anything, brother.

But you can’t cover the sun with your thumb either.

Do we need and want better talent? Yes.

Do we have a ton of players that have underperformed compared to their high school rankings and tape? Also, yes.

Coaches all across the nation that have way inferior talented classes are doing way more with way less.

All I am asking for is a competent staff that for starters can teach the fundamentals well, and bring a nasty/tough attitude on the field.

I’m not disputing that our talent evaluation hasn’t been lackluster, but to think that almost every top recruit that we get ends up being a jag or bust is just insane.

Every year we rehash the same arguments. It cannot be rational to think that our freshmen look good to great their 1st year, and then worse and worse the longer they are here. That relates directly to coaching, or a lack there of.
Click to expand...
The second question is up for debate. It will always be up for debate. Yes rankings matter but guys get over rated out of HS. U have School's like bama who are the best at evals they don't touch those kids or push. U have to ask yourself why. The evaluation of talent has been even worse the development.
 
Dwinstitles said:
The second question is up for debate. It will always be up for debate. Yes rankings matter but guys get over rated out of HS. U have School's like bama who are the best at evals they don't touch those kids or push. U have to ask yourself why. The evaluation of talent has been even worse the development.
Click to expand...
That would mean that every recruiting site gets all of these highly ranked players wrong, too. The odds of these sites getting so many players evaluated wrongly are astronomically low.

Again, I agree that we have not recruited at the best level that we can. We have lost too many South Florida studs. But the players that have been very talented out of high school have all regressed, or been used improperly. Our corching staffs all try to fit square pegs into round holes.

For example, Brashard Smith. The kid is electric at running routes, has great hands and is fast as fugg. What do our corches do? They use him almost exclusively out of the backfield as a running back or h-back.

If you don’t put your best players in position to succeed, or don’t even play your most talented players on the reg, how the **** are they supposed to get better?

Recruiting must improve, but it’s been class after class of busts. That doesn’t just happen by bad evals. The odds of that happening, like I said before, are off the charts.
 
Last edited:
Confidence1000 said:
U mean business today! Say it wit ur chest out!
Click to expand...
boobs2.gif
 
I blame the coaches more for poor evaluations than lack of development. We sign too many guys who aren’t particularly good players in the first place. Why do we have a group of linebackers who wouldn’t start at Virginia? Because we recruited terribly. There’s been guys who came in as nobodies and left as good players and there’s been guys who were supposed to be big deals and never did much. That’s every program. The key to being better is signing fewer duds. A lot of the defensive players who improved the most were Golden recruits but they never played in his system or if they did it was only for a year. Somehow these coaches got those guys to maximize their talents but when they had to play the guys they signed, it was a bunch of busts. Evaluate and sign better players.
 
Advertisement
Back
Top