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when is the "next year" bull gonna stop?

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ACKCANE said:
Wtf are you talking about? Who is predicting a MNC next year? The highest win total prediction I've seen on this site is 9-10 games! Why is that cause for call outs?
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wtf are YOU talking about? who (aside from a 12 count poster who's already been made fun of) has even mentioned a MNC in this thread?

i'm not even talking about winning a national championship. i'm talking about winning anything even remotely significant. there was a thread started tonight about winning the ACC, which we still haven't done since we've joined. there is 'next year'/'soon' talk in that thread.
 
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gordo24rulz said:
My guess is when we get rid of the scrubs RS brought on board by looking in magazines instead of looking at tapes and going to games in person. It also helps when you talk to more than 1 or 2 schools in the area and sign 6 kids from the 1 school.
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Well said
 
^^^^ excuses... I am with the OP.. It is time to start showing improvement. Let's see some signals this year.
 
This is my timetable:

2012-13: 7-8 wins max and a bowl.

2013-14: our first ACC championship and 11-12 wins.

2014-2015: National Championship contender.

I would love to say we are championship bound this year, but its just not realistic.
 
Here's the problem with this blind "must see improvement....good coaches have won titles year 2" logic--every situation is different. I imagine that if you look back through history, the coaches that won year 2 had junior/senior heavy teams that just hadn't achieved under the prior regime. The best situation to come into is one with a bunch of mid-level (sophomore/junior) players that want to win but don't know how. We dont have that. Golden's best chance at rapid improvement was last year because he had old players. That didn't really work for multiple reasons many of which weren't his fault. Regardless, he had no real mid-level players--sophomores that would now be juniors.

Instead, a lot of this team is going to be guys who have never played. So they aren't going to be good just because somebody said it's year 2. They've never played. That's why when I looked at this team late last year I thought we were 3 years away. Realistically, the current crop of freshmen need to essentially be juniors before Golden can really look at this as a seasoned team of his.
 
Pennmed Canefan said:
Here's the problem with this blind "must see improvement....good coaches have won titles year 2" logic--every situation is different. I imagine that if you look back through history, the coaches that won year 2 had junior/senior heavy teams that just hadn't achieved under the prior regime. The best situation to come into is one with a bunch of mid-level (sophomore/junior) players that want to win but don't know how. We dont have that. Golden's best chance at rapid improvement was last year because he had old players. That didn't really work for multiple reasons many of which weren't his fault. Regardless, he had no real mid-level players--sophomores that would now be juniors.

Instead, a lot of this team is going to be guys who have never played. So they aren't going to be good just because somebody said it's year 2. They've never played. That's why when I looked at this team late last year I thought we were 3 years away. Realistically, the current crop of freshmen need to essentially be juniors before Golden can really look at this as a seasoned team of his.
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your post makes sense to me. it really does. and i agree with most of what you wrote.

the only issue i have is with what is bolded. EVERY year there seems to be a similar stance on some aspect of the team. if it isn't youth it's talent. if it isn't talent it's a skill position. if it isn't a skill position it's coaching. the list goes on and on.

it just never stops. and while i agree we should see improvements with this regime, i am not going to put any type of time table for expectations. if we had really been improving with depth/age/talent/etc over the last decade like everyone's predictions forecasted, then we would be contending for superbowls, not national championships.

people need to realize that not every year is an improvement on the previous one. sometimes teams get worse. sometimes teams remain stagnant from the year before. the only way to get better in the future is to start making improvements now. which is why it just annoys me when people make "next year" arguments so often.
 
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i think we are 2 years away from being really good again. if being young, inexperienced, still lacking depth at some spots, and the ncaa investigation arent good reasons then i dont know what else to say.

i guess with 40 something freshman we should win the national championship this year. i guess thats what you want to hear.
 
ImU2daDEF...CLF said:
This is my timetable:

2012-13: 7-8 wins max and a bowl.

2013-14: our first ACC championship and 11-12 wins.

2014-2015: National Championship contender.

I would love to say we are championship bound this year, but its just not realistic.
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Lock it.
 
We aren't winning anything until we improve at qb. Our best qb prospect is coming in 2013. One year to improve that puts us in the 2014.

Here's a prediction that will comfort you. 7-6 with a NC. lol
 
Good is one thing, but no indications whatsoever that we will ever be a NC contender again. A decade of gross incompetence or willful sabotage from the president took care of that.

Every other school would have to suffer 10 years of Shalala hires before we catch up.
 
TheU1991 said:
seriously, quit it.

you all have been saying "welllllll, we're too _________ this year, next year will be the year" for a decade now. just stop.

don't tell me the team is too young. don't tell me we're facing sanctions. don't tell me that we don't have a serviceable quarterback.

all that talk ****es me off. it isn't 'optimism'. it's just stupidity and it's unrealistic.

the only way for "next year" to be the year is to just start winning THIS YEAR. get the ball rolling and next year will fall into place.

good lord.
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Canes football will be back on top one day, not mired in mediocrity.

Firing Day is 78 away.

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