Whats type of Coach is more important to you?

[Shinyheadman]

What if they both have the same record?

 

[WhatTheHell]

I want an ornery hillbilly that everyone hates. I want a ruthless, blood thirsty coach so obsessed with winning he'd call a fake punt up 60 against his own mama.

Red neck black soul has always been my motto when it comes to college coaches. Given the yoga, ice cream parties, and group crying sessions that have been going on at Miami, we could use that right now more than ever.

 

[Klamalama]

There's a lot of psychobabble on the subject of winners. It's easy to overthink it.

Butch is one that doesn't need analysis. He has a proven track record, not a 300 page binder.

LEADERSHIP
EXPERIENCE
SUCCESS

There is no substitute for the above, if you want a no-risk head coach.

Herman MAY be capable. Fuente MAY be capable. Others also. But they are all unnecessary RISKS.

Butch is the real deal, right now.

 

[Coach Macho]

Ruthless redneck please.

 

[RL52U]

Mike Leach is a myth. Only fools like him.

Show we 1. Just 1 ******* Coach that you have on your list...

That beat the #1 Ranked Team in the Country.
Beat Oregon in Autzen
Beat USC in the Coliseum (Yeah Leach is the one who got Kiffin fired at the airport)
Beat #4 Cal
Beat Texas A&M 5 times
Beat RichRod
Beat Bob Stoops 3+ times

Took a team that won only 9 games the previous 4 years to a bowl game his second year that hadn't been in a decade.

I won't be waiting.... because you can't. There is nobody that you can offer that has done that as a HC or better as a HC. None.
What he does isn't easy. Any dumbass can win with 4-5 Star kids at an elite program (Except us apparently).

It takes a really **** good coach to beat the big dogs with 2-3 star kids, and that's all Leach does.

And you are a **** fool if you think otherwise.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Mike Leach is a myth. Only fools like him.

Show we 1. Just 1 ****ing Coach that you have on your list...

That beat the #1 Ranked Team in the Country.
Beat Oregon in Autzen
Beat USC in the Coliseum (Yeah Leach is the one who got Kiffin fired at the airport)
Beat #4 Cal
Beat Texas A&M 5 times
Beat RichRod
Beat Bob Stoops 3+ times

Took a team that won only 9 games the previous 4 years to a bowl game his second year that hadn't been in a decade.

I won't be waiting.... because you can't. There is nobody that you can offer that has done that as a HC or better as a HC. None.
What he does isn't easy. Any dumbass can win with 4-5 Star kids at an elite program (Except us apparently).

It takes a really **** good coach to beat the big dogs with 2-3 star kids, and that's all Leach does.

And you are a **** fool if you think otherwise.

You reference the bowl game he took washington state to, you mean the season he lost the bowl game and finished with a losing record of 6-7? One of three losing records he has in the 4 seasons he's been there? This season is his first without a losing record and he still lost to Portland State.

He beat a USC team that was 4-7 in it's last 11 games. That's brag worthy.
Oregon is 4-3. Also not brag worthy
Beating Texas A&M before they joined the SEC is nothing. They were a mid-pack Big 12 team
The years he beat Oklahoma their record was 8-5, 8-4, and 11-2 so we'll credit him with one nice win against Stoops.
Rich Rod's Arizone is also 4-3.

So, this is the resume that you think qualifies him to coach. His all time record is trash and almost all of his wins come against teams with losing records.

 

[RL52U]

Mike Leach is a myth. Only fools like him.

Show we 1. Just 1 ****ing Coach that you have on your list...

That beat the #1 Ranked Team in the Country.
Beat Oregon in Autzen
Beat USC in the Coliseum (Yeah Leach is the one who got Kiffin fired at the airport)
Beat #4 Cal
Beat Texas A&M 5 times
Beat RichRod
Beat Bob Stoops 3+ times

Took a team that won only 9 games the previous 4 years to a bowl game his second year that hadn't been in a decade.

I won't be waiting.... because you can't. There is nobody that you can offer that has done that as a HC or better as a HC. None.
What he does isn't easy. Any dumbass can win with 4-5 Star kids at an elite program (Except us apparently).

It takes a really **** good coach to beat the big dogs with 2-3 star kids, and that's all Leach does.

And you are a **** fool if you think otherwise.

You reference the bowl game he took washington state to, you mean the season he lost the bowl game and finished with a losing record of 6-7? One of three losing records he has in the 4 seasons he's been there? This season is his first without a losing record and he still lost to Portland State.

He beat a USC team that was 4-7 in it's last 11 games. That's brag worthy.
Oregon is 4-3. Also not brag worthy
Beating Texas A&M before they joined the SEC is nothing. They were a mid-pack Big 12 team
The years he beat Oklahoma their record was 8-5, 8-4, and 11-2 so we'll credit him with one nice win against Stoops.
Rich Rod's Arizone is also 4-3.

So, this is the resume that you think qualifies him to coach. His all time record is trash and almost all of his wins come against teams with losing records.

Go look at the recruiting rankings for Washington State before he showed up and their record.
9-40 and an average #90 in FBS in recruiting.

Now what coach will go out there and beat USC, Oregon, Utah, Cal, Washington, Arizona with that...

Leach. Leach has done that, and he has not 1... but 3 guys on the Biletnikoff list. 3 PLAYERS. He's playing for the Pac-12 North against Stanford in just 4 years. The dude can coach.

He beat Kiffin.
He beat RichRod
He beat Mack Brown
He Beat Bob Stoops
He beat Art Briles
He beat Patterson

Show me a coach on your list that has done that with HC experience.

I said SHOW ME A COACH that has done that on your list.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Show we 1. Just 1 ****ing Coach that you have on your list...

That beat the #1 Ranked Team in the Country.
Beat Oregon in Autzen
Beat USC in the Coliseum (Yeah Leach is the one who got Kiffin fired at the airport)
Beat #4 Cal
Beat Texas A&M 5 times
Beat RichRod
Beat Bob Stoops 3+ times

Took a team that won only 9 games the previous 4 years to a bowl game his second year that hadn't been in a decade.

I won't be waiting.... because you can't. There is nobody that you can offer that has done that as a HC or better as a HC. None.
What he does isn't easy. Any dumbass can win with 4-5 Star kids at an elite program (Except us apparently).

It takes a really **** good coach to beat the big dogs with 2-3 star kids, and that's all Leach does.

And you are a **** fool if you think otherwise.

You reference the bowl game he took washington state to, you mean the season he lost the bowl game and finished with a losing record of 6-7? One of three losing records he has in the 4 seasons he's been there? This season is his first without a losing record and he still lost to Portland State.

He beat a USC team that was 4-7 in it's last 11 games. That's brag worthy.
Oregon is 4-3. Also not brag worthy
Beating Texas A&M before they joined the SEC is nothing. They were a mid-pack Big 12 team
The years he beat Oklahoma their record was 8-5, 8-4, and 11-2 so we'll credit him with one nice win against Stoops.
Rich Rod's Arizone is also 4-3.

So, this is the resume that you think qualifies him to coach. His all time record is trash and almost all of his wins come against teams with losing records.

Go look at the recruiting rankings for Washington State before he showed up and their record.
9-40 and an average #90 in FBS in recruiting.

Now what coach will go out there and beat USC, Oregon, Utah, Cal, Washington, Arizona with that...

Leach. Leach has done that, and he has not 1... but 3 guys on the Biletnikoff list. 3 PLAYERS. He's playing for the Pac-12 North against Stanford in just 4 years. The dude can coach.

He beat Kiffin.
He beat RichRod
He beat Mack Brown
He Beat Bob Stoops
He beat Art Briles
He beat Patterson

Show me a coach on your list that has done that with HC experience.

I said SHOW ME A COACH that has done that on your list.

I said he beat all of those teams when they sucked. I showed that. Now the reason I can't show you coaches that have beat them is because there are very few coaches that have coached for 14 years. But after 14 years, beating those teams on down years is his biggest accomplishment? You want him even though he has a huge losing record to ranked teams. Get out of here. If he was good, he wouldn't be at Washington State 14 years into his head coaching career.

 

[RL52U]

You reference the bowl game he took washington state to, you mean the season he lost the bowl game and finished with a losing record of 6-7? One of three losing records he has in the 4 seasons he's been there? This season is his first without a losing record and he still lost to Portland State.

He beat a USC team that was 4-7 in it's last 11 games. That's brag worthy.
Oregon is 4-3. Also not brag worthy
Beating Texas A&M before they joined the SEC is nothing. They were a mid-pack Big 12 team
The years he beat Oklahoma their record was 8-5, 8-4, and 11-2 so we'll credit him with one nice win against Stoops.
Rich Rod's Arizone is also 4-3.

So, this is the resume that you think qualifies him to coach. His all time record is trash and almost all of his wins come against teams with losing records.

Go look at the recruiting rankings for Washington State before he showed up and their record.
9-40 and an average #90 in FBS in recruiting.

Now what coach will go out there and beat USC, Oregon, Utah, Cal, Washington, Arizona with that...

Leach. Leach has done that, and he has not 1... but 3 guys on the Biletnikoff list. 3 PLAYERS. He's playing for the Pac-12 North against Stanford in just 4 years. The dude can coach.

He beat Kiffin.
He beat RichRod
He beat Mack Brown
He Beat Bob Stoops
He beat Art Briles
He beat Patterson

Show me a coach on your list that has done that with HC experience.

I said SHOW ME A COACH that has done that on your list.

I said he beat all of those teams when they sucked. I showed that. Now the reason I can't show you coaches that have beat them is because there are very few coaches that have coached for 14 years. But after 14 years, beating those teams on down years is his biggest accomplishment? You want him even though he has a huge losing record to ranked teams. Get out of here. If he was good, he wouldn't be at Washington State 14 years into his head coaching career.

Blah blah blah...You can't show me anybody because there isn't anybody and you know it.

"He beat them when they sucked."

Texas was #1 when he beat them.
He beat RichRod 2 times in Arizona and we heard people here wanting RichRod
Art Briles had RGIII (and just like Leach he had to build to where he is now)
He beat Kiffin when Kiffin had several years coaching.

He's at Washington State because Admins are too p.ussy to hire him because they want a media mic slurper like Golden.

It's that crappy attitude that is holding programs like us back.

If Leach had 4/5 star kids what do you think his record would be? Everybody knows he would destroy people.

There isn't a **** coach on your list who was interviewed by 60 minutes.

[video=youtube;QYqsiq0iQC0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYqsiq0iQC0[/video]

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Portland State says hi. I've already showed his record against ranked teams and that his wins over top teams came on down years. Football is big money and if this guy was good somebody would hire him to get that big money. He is a one trick pony. Against ranked teams his genius offense averages 26 points while his defenses gives up 36. Yeah he'd scare FSU. He couldn't even scare Portland State.

 

[michaelaf]

knowing this school we will probably get someone from the Rainbow crowd

 

[Big Sky Cane]

I'm facinated that morons still shill for Mike Leach. Dudes the dumbest smart coach in America. He's a bad football coach period. People who want him, have obviously never watched a Mike Leach coached game.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Give me the guy whose willing to keep scoring into the 4th quarter because they give no ***** about others feelings.

 

[RL52U]

Portland State says hi. I've already showed his record against ranked teams and that his wins over top teams came on down years. Football is big money and if this guy was good somebody would hire him to get that big money. He is a one trick pony. Against ranked teams his genius offense averages 26 points while his defenses gives up 36. Yeah he'd scare FSU. He couldn't even scare Portland State.

And Cutcliffe lost to Richmond twice, and Bill Snyder lost to North Dakota State
Why? Because FCS schools can beat schools that don't have 4-5 star kids. It happens..James Madison beat Virginia Tech.

He makes 2.75 Million a year and had that contract 4 years ago. He was making about as much as Golden.

You think Cutcliffe is a bad coach? Look at Duke and how bad they were, and now they aren't bad. Peyton Manning doesn't think Cutcliffe is a bad coach, but hey KevinCaneFace he knows better.

Oh yeah Leach receivers have been in the last 4 superbowls. Where are the Todd Herman players in the last 4 superbowls? None. Because he doesn't have any experience.

Leach is now competing for the Pac-12 North in his 4th year. Against Oregon, Cal, Stanford, Washington... if you don't think that's impressive you are an idiot. We got Ericson from Wazzu and that worked great... How many games did he win? 9. Leach has already won 6 and could win 9 this year.

That's not a 1 trick pony. People can figure out a 1 trick pony and stop it. He's been coaching for 13 years and people still haven't stopped it.

Art Briles Baylor - Leach Assistant
Dana Holgerson West Virginia - Leach Assistant
Kliff Kingsbury Texas Tech- Former Leach QB
Sonny Cumbie (TCU OC) - Former Leach QB
Lincoln Riley (Oklahoma OC) - Former Leach

Show me anyone on your list that has that kind of coaching tree outside of Butch when he was with the browns.
I said show me 1 coach that's had that kind of impact on college football that we could get. You can't, and you know it.

WAKE T H E .... F U C K U P
It's 2015. It's not 2000. It's not 1980.
And if we want to be competitive in the modern era. We need to use the scheme of the modern era.

I guarantee he would scare FSU. Last time Fischer faced someone from Leach's tree (Heupel OC Oklahoma) in 2010
They got gang raped 47-17.

Nobody in the ACC runs Leach's style and I guarantee it would cause havoc because you have to prepare for it totally different. It's like Georgia Tech but way way worse, because no matter what it can come back and win. Look at Oregon this year. It Autzen. That team has 5 star players. Same coach that took them to the playoffs who beat FSU...and Leach goes in and beat them in their own house.

WAKE UP.

 

[Sonny Long]

Portland State says hi. I've already showed his record against ranked teams and that his wins over top teams came on down years. Football is big money and if this guy was good somebody would hire him to get that big money. He is a one trick pony. Against ranked teams his genius offense averages 26 points while his defenses gives up 36. Yeah he'd scare FSU. He couldn't even scare Portland State.

And Cutcliffe lost to Richmond twice, and Bill Snyder lost to North Dakota State
Why? Because FCS schools can beat schools that don't have 4-5 star kids. It happens..James Madison beat Virginia Tech.

He makes 2.75 Million a year and had that contract 4 years ago. He was making about as much as Golden.

You think Cutcliffe is a bad coach? Look at Duke and how bad they were, and now they aren't bad. Peyton Manning doesn't think Cutcliffe is a bad coach, but hey KevinCaneFace he knows better.

Oh yeah Leach receivers have been in the last 4 superbowls. Where are the Todd Herman players in the last 4 superbowls? None. Because he doesn't have any experience.

Leach is now competing for the Pac-12 North in his 4th year. Against Oregon, Cal, Stanford, Washington... if you don't think that's impressive you are an idiot. We got Ericson from Wazzu and that worked great... How many games did he win? 9. Leach has already won 6 and could win 9 this year.

That's not a 1 trick pony. People can figure out a 1 trick pony and stop it. He's been coaching for 13 years and people still haven't stopped it.

Art Briles Baylor - Leach Assistant
Dana Holgerson West Virginia - Leach Assistant
Kliff Kingsbury Texas Tech- Former Leach QB
Sonny Cumbie (TCU OC) - Former Leach QB
Lincoln Riley (Oklahoma OC) - Former Leach

Show me anyone on your list that has that kind of coaching tree outside of Butch when he was with the browns.
I said show me 1 coach that's had that kind of impact on college football that we could get. You can't, and you know it.

WAKE T H E .... F U C K U P
It's 2015. It's not 2000. It's not 1980.
And if we want to be competitive in the modern era. We need to use the scheme of the modern era.

I guarantee he would scare FSU. Last time Fischer faced someone from Leach's tree (Heupel OC Oklahoma) in 2010
They got gang raped 47-17.

Nobody in the ACC runs Leach's style and I guarantee it would cause havoc because you have to prepare for it totally different. It's like Georgia Tech but way way worse, because no matter what it can come back and win. Look at Oregon this year. It Autzen. That team has 5 star players. Same coach that took them to the playoffs who beat FSU...and Leach goes in and beat them in their own house.

WAKE UP.

PREACH!

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[Sonny Long]

Give me the guy whose willing to keep scoring into the 4th quarter because they give no ****s about others feelings.

Mike Leach!

 

[Dirty Sprite]

One that doesn't run a 3-4 defense I don't give a **** if it's a "hybrid" or whatever bs... get it out of my sight.