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the 3 man front/ rushes on 3rd and long ,or the long developing play-action passes on offenses?

I cringe every time we have 3rd and long now, we get into this set where QB's just pick us apart and WR's are running free all over the secondary. Can any of the football guru's tell me if what they are doing is sound? It just seems counter-intuitive to what football is nowadays. Also we still run those blitzes from leftfield that never seem to get their on time.

There seems to be something very unsound about Blake Bakers defense( and please, dont bring up defensive stats, those are heavily skewed by the schedule). I knew we would miss Jacquan Johnson and his football IQ but I never imagined our secondary would be in this much disarray. I mean, are Nesta and Bolden the panacea come October?

Now, offensively UM has been bad, bottom line. Enos has been a buzzkill, cant lie. What I dont understand is can't he see the limitations of our Oline and scheme around it? Personally, for the time being I think we need to be more spread and early, quick throws in lieu of a line that can't push people around and create running lanes.

Y'know, Ive never wanted to go full blown Air-Raid spread but when I see USC, I do think to myself,'they are VERY productive offensively, fun to watch and dangerous every week' -- and that's with 3 different signal callers this season. Enos is a guy I like, I absolutely dont question his football acumen, but how he has not schemed around the limitations of our current personnel has been very disappointing.

But again, I can handle not being ready for the likes of Bama, Clemson, UGa ,etc, I get it, there's rebuilding to be done. But when I see this stubborness from our staff, that to me is the most disheartening aspect of this thing with Diaz. Again, Im not calling for any firings or whatever, it's still just four games into this regime but lets call a spade a spade.
 
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The defense is not what it was in the past, but its not terrible.

The offense doesn't seem to be any better at all. QB, WR, TE, and RB are all positions that should give us a huge advantage. Sure, the O line is young and needs to improve, but a really good OC should be able to call plays that maximize our strengths and minimize our weaknesses. This offense has been all over the place.
 
That Miami is more than 15 years behind in what CFB is offensively. CFB is about putting points lot of points and you got 100 of teams with minimal talent that use the spread to at least give his player a chance. Not even the NFL huddle anymore, play slow or work from I formation as a base offense anymore. Lack of adaptation is the route to extintion.
 
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It’s tough when youre replacing 3/4 on the backend and 2/4 up front. Bethel is what he is and we really don’t have a penetrative st DL yet. We’re hoping that nesta will provide that.

As for the back end I loved JJ4 but I really think we’re missing Reswine. I don’t think people realize how good our D was last year because he played at such a high level. The same blitz we ran 4th & 17 got home against FSU last year in a big spot. Failed this year and we let the guy who we doubled off the snap go open (players there)

I think the D is a work in progress but they will be better in the end. We put a lot of stress in our S in this D. We need them to grow up quick.

As for O...let’s hope we don’t see that kind of ol play again. The whole OL was TURRIBLE. If u rewatch the abortion of that game the whole OL was a dumpster fire. Not sure you can call, scheme, motion, shift, audible, and whatever when you’re hot garbage up front like yesterday. I mean that was another world bad because unlike Florida our interior OL was trash yesterday. Maybe scaife wasn’t but the rest looked bad. You cant chip every play, you can’t leave your TE in to block with us often (he’s our biggest threat in the Passing game), so what do you do when OL is trash???? Just pray you’re playing a team like CMU and hope like **** you make it out of the game with a W
 
FTaCane94 said:
That Miami is mire than 15 years behind in what CFB is offensively. CFB is about putting points lot of points and you got 100 of teams with minimal talent that use the spread to at least give his player a chance. Not even the NFL huddle anymore, play slow or work from I formation as a base offense anymore. Lack of adaptation is the route to extintion.
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That's the other thing Ive said for awhile, we play offensively at a molasses-like tempo. Lets be honest, our games are kinda boring a lot of times. When Miami had a coaching vacancy for about 12 hours last December, I was very intrigued by the likes of a Dino Babers, someone of that ilk, that play fast from beginning to end...
 
The 3-DE rush almost makes sense when you watch our DTs get zero penetration when rushing the passer. The idea seems like a gimmick to compensate, although why not go full gimmick and rush 4 DEs?

Enos’ insistence on slow-PA with a rookie QB and a poor OL baffles me. Especially when he was quoted he tailors his offense to his players. Maybe he’s calling plays while protecting them as 4 year starters rather than 4 games.
 
TemplarCane said:
USC’s 3rd string QB passed for nearly 400 yards and 3 TDs to beat 10th ranked Utah.

That is all.
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I thought Fink was second string but couldn’t beat of JT Daniels and wanted to transfer before Daniels got hurt in week 1. Either way Fink wasn’t a slouch neither is Slovis or the freshman. They stay with a QB
 
I’d rather go down with a blitz like we did at UNC than with a three man rush and playing coverage. Try to speed up the QBs decision and feet

Playing coverage only really works close to the goal line because it constricts the field IMO
 
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motorcitycane said:
I thought Fink was second string but couldn’t beat of JT Daniels and wanted to transfer before Daniels got hurt in week 1. Either way Fink wasn’t a slouch neither is Slovis or the freshman. They stay with a QB
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Coming into the season, he was 3rd string behind Daniels and then true freshman....
 
The quick hitters to get our WRs the ball in space seem few and far between. Like the quick pass out to JT4 that went for appx 20 yards like it was easy.

When I see those, I always think **** that’s what it should look like. I know you can’t run that play all the time. But generally, it makes sense to get the ball out quickly to athletes in space while the defense is spread out.

But instead I look up and we’re in a tight formation running slow developing PA with no run threat and a slice of Swiss pretending to be an Oline.
 
k9cane said:
Coming into the season, he was 3rd string behind Daniels and then true freshman....
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Slovis was put ahead of him this season but he was behind Daniels last year. He is a redshirt junior I think. May have been in games before for a few snaps. The other QB who played as backup when Daniels got hurt last year left for the portal when he didn't win the starting job. Jack Sears. He did really well.
 
Definitely the offense. It is absolute insanity to try to run the ball up the middle from under center and keep asking Jarren to turn his back to the defense behind this OL. This team with this exact personnel wins the ACC Coastal easily running Briles or Applewhite’s offense. The defense isn’t perfect but it’s not the biggest problem.
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
Slovis was put ahead of him this season but he was behind Daniels last year. He is a redshirt junior I think. May have been in games before for a few snaps. The other QB who played as backup when Daniels got hurt last year left for the portal when he didn't win the starting job. Jack Sears. He did really well.
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Yeah, I did a feature on Sears for ESPN(his father actually went to UM in the 80's) and came out of fall camp 4th string, and many believe it was Helton's way of making sure he never displaced Daniels. He originally committed to Duke and Cutcliffe. Very nice kid, he'll play well for somebody next season...
 
k9cane said:
That's the other thing Ive said for awhile, we play offensively at a molasses-like tempo. Lets be honest, our games are kinda boring a lot of times. When Miami had a coaching vacancy for about 12 hours last December, I was very intrigued by the likes of a Dino Babers, someone of that ilk, that play fast from beginning to end...
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Funny thing is, that’s what Manny has said to the sideline reporter 2 games in a row before kickoff

Then we’ve come out slow and played slowed lol
 
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motorcitycane said:
I thought Fink was second string but couldn’t beat of JT Daniels and wanted to transfer before Daniels got hurt in week 1. Either way Fink wasn’t a slouch neither is Slovis or the freshman. They stay with a QB
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Fink and Slovis were recruited by USC, so they must have had some talent in local high school. But neither were 5-star recruits like Palmer, Leinhart, Barkley, or JT Daniels.

Fink had thrown all of 18 passes in mop-up duty in three years, prior to coming into the Utah game when Slovis was hurt.
 
With their wildly inaccurate QB, playing zone on third and long was the wise call. In particular when we're not that sound in the back.

No question, all the dumb crap we do offensively.
 
k9cane said:
the 3 man front/ rushes on 3rd and long ,or the long developing play-action passes on offenses?

I cringe every time we have 3rd and long now, we get into this set where QB's just pick us apart and WR's are running free all over the secondary. Can any of the football guru's tell me if what they are doing is sound? It just seems counter-intuitive to what football is nowadays. Also we still run those blitzes from leftfield that never seem to get their on time.

There seems to be something very unsound about Blake Bakers defense( and please, dont bring up defensive stats, those are heavily skewed by the schedule). I knew we would miss Jacquan Johnson and his football IQ but I never imagined our secondary would be in this much disarray. I mean, are Nesta and Bolden the panacea come October?

Now, offensively UM has been bad, bottom line. Enos has been a buzzkill, cant lie. What I dont understand is can't he see the limitations of our Oline and scheme around it? Personally, for the time being I think we need to be more spread and early, quick throws in lieu of a line that can't push people around and create running lanes.

Y'know, Ive never wanted to go full blown Air-Raid spread but when I see USC, I do think to myself,'they are VERY productive offensively, fun to watch and dangerous every week' -- and that's with 3 different signal callers this season. Enos is a guy I like, I absolutely dont question his football acumen, but how he has not schemed around the limitations of our current personnel has been very disappointing.

But again, I can handle not being ready for the likes of Bama, Clemson, UGa ,etc, I get it, there's rebuilding to be done. But when I see this stubborness from our staff, that to me is the most disheartening aspect of this thing with Diaz. Again, Im not calling for any firings or whatever, it's still just four games into this regime but lets call a spade a spade.
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Play action on 3rd and 15 really bothers me. Absolutely no one is biting on the play action there, so all you are doing is increasing the complexity and delaying the QB reading the defense.
 
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