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Itiswhatitis

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What we've seen the past 3 years from MR is what we'll see from him going forward if he stays. What makes you all think differently??

Year 1- 3 straight Loses
Year 2- 3 Straight Loses
Year 3- 5 Ugly loses so far, 4 of them in a row.

Worth mentioning is that MR averaged 3.12 loses per year at UGA. Also reference the Herald's 11/27/18 article- "He ain't making any changes"!!

"When you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always gotten". It is what it is boys and girls!!

See UM's crystal ball, give MR 2 more years, and after another 6-10 loses, fire his ***! What a freaking waste.
 
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twes.305 said:
I knew about his record at UGA I just hope he learned from his mistakes, but he has not.
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This line of thinking doesn't really make any sense. Not because someone can't learn from their mistakes, especially a young or first time HC, but because of his incredibly large sample size of coaching. Wouldn't he already have learned these mistakes? This also is the same reason Richt should have never been hired in the first place.

Here is a question: Over the last 25 years, how many P5 HCs, with such a large sample of coaching experience (10 years or more), are able to out perform their prior tenures?

The only name that really comes up is Mack Brown (UNC ==> UT) and unlike here (UGA ==> Miami), Mack Brown really went to a much much much better program.

Richt isn't who he was.
 
twes.305 said:
I knew about his record at UGA I just hope he learned from his mistakes, but he has not.
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I think this is what most of us thought. We made excuses for him (UGA didn't let him run his own offense, turned him into a CEO, tied his hands, etc etc).

At the end of the day, UGA never got over the hump under Richt for a reason...he really is what much of their fanbase said he is.
 
CFLCane said:
List the available coaches with career .750 winning percentages. Ill wait.
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This is also a fair point. Say Richt is let go after the bowl game - we're either replacing him with someone who is statistically worse, or giving a high-performing coordinator a chance.

Not saying I know what the answer is, but no matter what we would do, I doubt the fanbase would be happy.
 
Itiswhatitis said:
What we've seen the past 3 years from MR is what we'll see from him going forward if he stays. What makes you all think differently??

Year 1- 3 straight Loses
Year 2- 3 Straight Loses
Year 3- 5 Ugly loses so far, 4 of them in a row.

Worth mentioning is that MR averaged 3.12 loses per year at UGA. Also reference the Herald's 11/27/18 article- "He ain't making any changes"!!

"When you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always gotten". It is what it is boys and girls!!

See UM's crystal ball, give MR 2 more years, and after another 6-10 loses, fire his ***! What a freaking waste.
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Year 1 was 4 straight loses but I agree with your post. he has 3 4 game losing streaks at Miami.
 
Consigliere said:
This line of thinking doesn't really make any sense. Not because someone can't learn from their mistakes, especially a young or first time HC, but because of his incredibly large sample size of coaching. Wouldn't he already have learned these mistakes? This also is the same reason Richt should have never been hired in the first place.

Here is a question: Over the last 25 years, how many P5 HCs, with such a large sample of coaching experience (10 years or more), are able to out perform their prior tenures?

The only name that really comes up is Mack Brown (UNC ==> UT) and unlike here (UGA ==> Miami), Mack Brown really went to a much much much better program.

Richt isn't who he was.
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What's the solution to our problems Bro? Your suggestion??

We need to understand that common sense logic does not apply to HC's. These are very powerful people that for the most part do as they please. They stick with what has worked for them. Only the Elite ones seem to be the ones willing to learn/change/evolve. Change is not in their repertoire.

MR was hired by UM based on his historical 3.12 loses per season. If I had been in his position, I would have thought that UM was pleased with 3.12 loses per season, correct? So why then is he to think that he now has a problem now?
 
Itiswhatitis said:
What's the solution to our problems Bro? Your suggestion??

We need to understand that common sense logic does not apply to HC's. These are very powerful people that for the most part do as they please. They stick with what has worked for them. Only the Elite ones seem to be the ones willing to learn/change/evolve. Change is not in their repertoire.

MR was hired by UM based on his historical 3.12 loses per season. If I had been in his position, I would have thought that UM was pleased with 3.12 loses per season, correct? So why then is he to think that he now has a problem now?
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Hey Bro,

A few things:

1. Mark Richt was hired by our decision makers because they're incompetent. Not because he averaged X losses per season. Our decision makers didn't have a plan, they never have a plan (besides the self-inflicted cancer approach).

2. The problem has and is our decision makers. Our decision makers have been nothing but consistent...

a. 4 straight unnecessary extensions,
b. 3 straight atrocious hires,
c. 3 straight buyouts (each too late) and we wait for number 4,
d. Our current AD ***s trannys, needed 5 years to graduate Minnesota State Mankato, and fell a$s backwards into the position, and
e. It has been ~15 years from our last truly relevant season.

Consistency.

3. Nothing will likely change until the process changes. What does that mean? It starts with bringing in a competent, passionate AD with autonomy. Just a heads up, our tranny ***ing incompetent puppet, is not that guy.

4. Why does it matter what Mark Richt thinks and whether or not UM is pleased?
 
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CaneMountain08 said:
This is also a fair point. Say Richt is let go after the bowl game - we're either replacing him with someone who is statistically worse, or giving a high-performing coordinator a chance.

Not saying I know what the answer is, but no matter what we would do, I doubt the fanbase would be happy.
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The main issue is that UM's hiring process is flawed. During our last HC hiring process, we interviewed Dan Mullen, now UF's successful first year coach, but UM Admin. thought, as I recall, that "He was too ****y". Got news for you folks, is Saban ****y? Is Meyer ****y? is Dabo ****y? There's a trend here folks, successful HC's tend to be ****y!! Mullen took a bad program and turned them into winners overnight!

We need an AD that know what the **** he is doing, specially in hiring successful people.
 
Consigliere said:
Hey Bro,

A few things:

1. Mark Richt was hired by our decision makers because they're incompetent. Not because he averaged X losses per season. Our decision makers didn't have a plan, they never have a plan (besides the self-inflicted cancer approach).

2. The problem has and is our decision makers. Our decision makers have been nothing but consistent...

a. 4 straight unnecessary extensions,
b. 3 straight atrocious hires,
c. 3 straight buyouts (each too late) and we wait for number 4,
d. Our current AD ***s trannys, needed 5 years to graduate Minnesota State Mankato, and fell a$s backwards into the position, and
e. It has been ~15 years from our last truly relevant season.

Consistency.

3. Nothing will likely change until the process changes. What does that mean? It starts with bringing in a competent, passionate AD with autonomy. Just a heads up, our tranny ***ing incompetent puppet, is not that guy.

4. Why does it matter what Mark Richt thinks and whether or not UM is pleased?
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Totally, totally agreed. See my answer below.
 
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